Yet another A330 Engine failure for Qatar
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Yet another A330 Engine failure for Qatar
well.. seems to be a new trend for this middle east carrier.. DOH-LON sector.. A330 reported to have 3 engines failures during cruise.. in clear air no less.. All failures managed to restart useing the aircraft automation.. but never the less.. a real problem.
it should be said that this does not seem to have any relation to the previous 2 other engine failures in as many months.. one being a dual engine failure. those seemed to be related to WX and or ice.. but this is a new one for QA.. seems to be related to a FADEC problem.
who knows..
Good Job to all involved for a safe result in the end.
it should be said that this does not seem to have any relation to the previous 2 other engine failures in as many months.. one being a dual engine failure. those seemed to be related to WX and or ice.. but this is a new one for QA.. seems to be related to a FADEC problem.
who knows..
Good Job to all involved for a safe result in the end.
Read the thread properly and you"ll understand..Boeing-man.
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Confirmation please! If true would seem to be following rather closely to the last event as that only seemed a few weeks ago, and the double failure before that.
Maybe time to fly Boeing, as I have not seen any thread indicating that engines stopping in flight is a regular thing with them. Three hits for QA may indicate a ongoing trend?
Maybe time to fly Boeing, as I have not seen any thread indicating that engines stopping in flight is a regular thing with them. Three hits for QA may indicate a ongoing trend?
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From: PBD01
well I would believe that QA might be going thru an unlucky streak with regards to engine inflight problems.
as I have heard it's not an Airbus or Airline problem.. the real problem lyes with the engine manufacter.. GE.
although GE has since reported MANY inflight failures.. QA was unlucky enough to be operating the Aircraft that had the first inflight failures of a GE engine attached to a Airbus A330 aircraft..
it's just a real good engine re-light system designed within the aircraft that seems to saves the day.. and manages to relight the engines within seconds ( usually 30 to 45 sec) everytime.. nice.. and as mentioned by Mr Krunch.. good job to all involved.
WzT
as I have heard it's not an Airbus or Airline problem.. the real problem lyes with the engine manufacter.. GE.
although GE has since reported MANY inflight failures.. QA was unlucky enough to be operating the Aircraft that had the first inflight failures of a GE engine attached to a Airbus A330 aircraft..
it's just a real good engine re-light system designed within the aircraft that seems to saves the day.. and manages to relight the engines within seconds ( usually 30 to 45 sec) everytime.. nice.. and as mentioned by Mr Krunch.. good job to all involved.
WzT
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I follow WZT and CK in a situation well handled by the crew; however shampoo_9 opens another area of discussion.
Though the engine type manufacture has indicated “MANY” in flight failures and I understand these run into double figures, included I understand more than one double failure.
Is anyone willing to expand on what happened in Doha, the indicated dispatch of the aircraft with “Minor” and it seems a miss diagnosed engine problem, matched with the historical evidence of in-flight shutdowns would seem to indicate further comment.
I know from experience that to make assumptions based on little if any actual fact is to be avoided however I feel some clarification is required.
The auto re-light system is an emergency and auto response to an abnormal in-flight event and regardless how reliable it’s shown to be is not a system I would have expected to be tested as frequently as it has been.
Crew training including simulator practice of the unexpected prepares us all to be able to deal with these types of events in a practiced and professional manor. A far cry from when I started, when scenarios were discussed over a pint in the mess or local bar and hopefully never followed up, well done to the crew involved.
outhouse
Though the engine type manufacture has indicated “MANY” in flight failures and I understand these run into double figures, included I understand more than one double failure.
Is anyone willing to expand on what happened in Doha, the indicated dispatch of the aircraft with “Minor” and it seems a miss diagnosed engine problem, matched with the historical evidence of in-flight shutdowns would seem to indicate further comment.
I know from experience that to make assumptions based on little if any actual fact is to be avoided however I feel some clarification is required.
The auto re-light system is an emergency and auto response to an abnormal in-flight event and regardless how reliable it’s shown to be is not a system I would have expected to be tested as frequently as it has been.
Crew training including simulator practice of the unexpected prepares us all to be able to deal with these types of events in a practiced and professional manor. A far cry from when I started, when scenarios were discussed over a pint in the mess or local bar and hopefully never followed up, well done to the crew involved.
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From: italy
Dispatch with an Engine Minor Fault ECAM on the A330 is permitted under the QR MEL (derived from the Airbus MMEL), with just a small operational procedure that may require depending on the engine (no.2) turning off an electric hydraulic pump before pushback.
For what its worth QR runs a very well maintained fleet of aircraft.
For what its worth QR runs a very well maintained fleet of aircraft.
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From: Dohacity
Investigation is still going on.
What is sure so far is that it was NOT a flame out. The preliminary investigation shows a powerloss of the engine which happend twice in a span of 4 minutes.
Preliminary conclusion is a bad contact in the engine's ECU connection, resulting in a switch between ECUs hence the temporarly powerloss.
But as said before, still under investigation and to be continued...
What is sure so far is that it was NOT a flame out. The preliminary investigation shows a powerloss of the engine which happend twice in a span of 4 minutes.
Preliminary conclusion is a bad contact in the engine's ECU connection, resulting in a switch between ECUs hence the temporarly powerloss.
But as said before, still under investigation and to be continued...
