Wall Street Journal on Expat Pilots (including EK)
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Any chance we could put this guy up for a "DARWIN AWARD" or similar.
Maybe if you’re stepping on people’s toes, one should do it quietly, and not invite your mates to join in.
Now I better get back to my 5 Star room on the Concierge level that only befits a Vice President of the company.
Maybe if you’re stepping on people’s toes, one should do it quietly, and not invite your mates to join in.
Now I better get back to my 5 Star room on the Concierge level that only befits a Vice President of the company.
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Originally Posted by Tail Rota
Thanks whossorrynow
you are correct I was referring to being on the recieving end of Trainer Brian.........err does that make me??????
...mmmmmmm thinking out aloud there....
sorry Typhoon ........I guess I am ok to continue as cleared.....confirm it was the "BUST BRIAN CHOPS " arrival.....Rwy 30R
off to work...nighty night
TR
you are correct I was referring to being on the recieving end of Trainer Brian.........err does that make me??????
...mmmmmmm thinking out aloud there.... sorry Typhoon ........I guess I am ok to continue as cleared.....confirm it was the "BUST BRIAN CHOPS " arrival.....Rwy 30R
off to work...nighty night
TR
You may be pleasantly surprised if you ever do find yourself in the situation though.
TP
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I think Typhoon is so defensive of Brian not only as he is a fellow citizen because he has actually stolen your thunder.Wasn't typhoon the number one recruiter for EK.Now theirs a new kid on the block.Dont worry TP when Brian becomes a CP you can always become his deputy and you can both go on a roadshow together and do a double act.That should make a nice artcle for the WSJ.
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Captainjohn.
You posted some very disturbing news. Is this intel hot?
"By the way I hear that CC is being put forward for CPA"
"He shows complete discontent towards all his EK colleagues"
Now if anyone fits this; cc is your man. Brothers the end is nigh.
You posted some very disturbing news. Is this intel hot?
"By the way I hear that CC is being put forward for CPA"
"He shows complete discontent towards all his EK colleagues"
Now if anyone fits this; cc is your man. Brothers the end is nigh.
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Originally Posted by Ahad Adump
He jumped the que(ue) and now makes waves; NICE.
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I was referring to being on the recieving end of Trainer Brian.........err does that make me??????
Originally Posted by typhoonpilot
You may be pleasantly surprised if you ever do find yourself in the situation though.
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Mrs Murray's little boy Brian has every right to his little suck up for management circus. He is after all American. He comes from a culture of shameless self promotion at the expense of the truth. Why not exploit it? Everyone else does, so that should make it right...
His errors of fact are a bit galling... especially the bull**** about the 4 and 5 star hotels... obviously he isn't MFF, nor has he spent a night in the cockroach haven of the Airport Garden Hotel in Columbo, or the Berjaya Beau Vallon Beach resort in the Seychelles... but then again, since when has management (or wannabees) ever been correctly informed by the facts? It's all about surface gloss, not the underlying truth.
I do believe Mrs Murray's little boy Brian is well deserving of the ire and contempt of his colleagues. He's put himself in the spotlight for this at the expense of factual accuracy and sought the approbrium of the worst types (readers of newspapers) rather than his hard working colleagues. If he wants to be a manager at this carrier, he is going to reap what he has sown. I am reminded of an Air Force leadership maxim that in order to be a good leader, you must have good followers... I would say that he has done himself a great disservice in this matter. It serves him right.
Carl Sandburg (1878-1967) American Poet
A liar lies to the nations
A liar lies to the people
A liar takes the blood of the people
And drinks this blood with a laugh and a lie
"The Liars" (1919)
His errors of fact are a bit galling... especially the bull**** about the 4 and 5 star hotels... obviously he isn't MFF, nor has he spent a night in the cockroach haven of the Airport Garden Hotel in Columbo, or the Berjaya Beau Vallon Beach resort in the Seychelles... but then again, since when has management (or wannabees) ever been correctly informed by the facts? It's all about surface gloss, not the underlying truth.
I do believe Mrs Murray's little boy Brian is well deserving of the ire and contempt of his colleagues. He's put himself in the spotlight for this at the expense of factual accuracy and sought the approbrium of the worst types (readers of newspapers) rather than his hard working colleagues. If he wants to be a manager at this carrier, he is going to reap what he has sown. I am reminded of an Air Force leadership maxim that in order to be a good leader, you must have good followers... I would say that he has done himself a great disservice in this matter. It serves him right.
Carl Sandburg (1878-1967) American Poet
A liar lies to the nations
A liar lies to the people
A liar takes the blood of the people
And drinks this blood with a laugh and a lie
"The Liars" (1919)
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Remember the big 'suck-up' to LL on the yahoo group a while back? Same guy. Saw him (recognisable but only just, as the Wall St photo is particularly flattering to him) at CBC walking around like a human!
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The following is what I was referring to.
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Gents,
Sent this today after speaking with (LL). He would like to stay if at all possible. I'm sure our letters would help.
Cheers,
Brian.
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Dear (AS),
I am writing to express my concern over the possible retirement of Mr. (LL) this summer. As a relatively new Captain at Emirates and new resident in the gulf region, I cannot express enough how helpful and comforting it has been to have (him) as my fleet manager. He has a unique skill which allows him to meet the needs of the corporation, while at the same time assisting the pilots he oversees.
With Emirates entering another phase of rapid growth and expansion, his knowledge and expertise will be even more important in the years ahead. For us on the Airbus, (he) is the "Go-to-guy". He is always willing to help, and if unable, he knows who can.
Please, if at all possible, I would urge (him) be allowed to remain on until 65 years of age and help see us through the busy years ahead.
Sincerely,
Brian Murray
Captain, Airbus
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.Nuff said?
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Gents,
Sent this today after speaking with (LL). He would like to stay if at all possible. I'm sure our letters would help.
Cheers,
Brian.
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Dear (AS),
I am writing to express my concern over the possible retirement of Mr. (LL) this summer. As a relatively new Captain at Emirates and new resident in the gulf region, I cannot express enough how helpful and comforting it has been to have (him) as my fleet manager. He has a unique skill which allows him to meet the needs of the corporation, while at the same time assisting the pilots he oversees.
With Emirates entering another phase of rapid growth and expansion, his knowledge and expertise will be even more important in the years ahead. For us on the Airbus, (he) is the "Go-to-guy". He is always willing to help, and if unable, he knows who can.
Please, if at all possible, I would urge (him) be allowed to remain on until 65 years of age and help see us through the busy years ahead.
Sincerely,
Brian Murray
Captain, Airbus
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.Nuff said?
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What I think is best is the seamless introduction into the workforce of the new lads from North America. At least it takes the heat off the other unpopular members of EKs happy melting pot of cultures.
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It's all about surface gloss, not the underlying truth.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1708287,00.html
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Wake up guys
Come on guys, try and wake up a bit here.
Some guy made an article in a journal, and as said by many; "different people have different views". - that is still a human right, but please try and be realistic in your life-visions here.
So many people here are moarning about EK and complaining about not being treated like kings and queens. Really, why did you guys become pilots ??
There are so many pilots struggling in small regional airlines or the GA, having a hard time getting butter on the bread, but they continue to fly because they love the nature of the job. I admit, it would be nice with more money, but listening to you guys complaining over "crap conditions" and "deterioating(?) terms" is too far out.
Try and join a small airline for some years, see how that is, and stop crying.
The current conditions at EK is a dream for many of us, so those of you who don't like being there, **** off and give rooms to those who became pilots to fly aircrafts.
And yes i have a job that i like (pilot), and no I have not been rejected anywhere, and no I am not bitter on anyone.
I am just sick of spoiled people that can't get enought luxury in a world with hardcore competition from all sides towards each airline.
Wake up guys and dry your wet eyes
Some guy made an article in a journal, and as said by many; "different people have different views". - that is still a human right, but please try and be realistic in your life-visions here.
So many people here are moarning about EK and complaining about not being treated like kings and queens. Really, why did you guys become pilots ??
There are so many pilots struggling in small regional airlines or the GA, having a hard time getting butter on the bread, but they continue to fly because they love the nature of the job. I admit, it would be nice with more money, but listening to you guys complaining over "crap conditions" and "deterioating(?) terms" is too far out.
Try and join a small airline for some years, see how that is, and stop crying.
The current conditions at EK is a dream for many of us, so those of you who don't like being there, **** off and give rooms to those who became pilots to fly aircrafts.
And yes i have a job that i like (pilot), and no I have not been rejected anywhere, and no I am not bitter on anyone.
I am just sick of spoiled people that can't get enought luxury in a world with hardcore competition from all sides towards each airline.
Wake up guys and dry your wet eyes
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Up and Down boy,until you have experience of a big airline and know whats happening here to what was once a good airline stick to the "wanabees" forum and dont comment on stuff you NOTHING about.
Many,many pilots came from smaller airlines,but does that mean we have to watch blatant misrepresentation and continual eroding of Ts and Cs.Neither does it mean we dont enjoy the job.I do,its just not the job it was and can easily be restored.
When you sit here,then you will know,so until then think before you post utter nonsense now go and do your walk round.
QB
PS Email Brian he likes people like you.
Many,many pilots came from smaller airlines,but does that mean we have to watch blatant misrepresentation and continual eroding of Ts and Cs.Neither does it mean we dont enjoy the job.I do,its just not the job it was and can easily be restored.
When you sit here,then you will know,so until then think before you post utter nonsense now go and do your walk round.
QB
PS Email Brian he likes people like you.
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Well Mack ....I couldnt resist.....here is my version.......for when Trainer Brian recommends me for upgrade
Dear (AS),
I am writing to express my concern over the possible resignation of F/O Tail Rota this summer. As a relatively new well known, Management Wannabie at Emirates and new resident in the gulf region, I cannot express enough how helpful and comforting it has been to have Tail Rota as my first officer. He has a unique skill which allows him to meet the needs of the bent at the knee, brown noser, while at the same time not assisting me with my needs.
With Emirates entering another phase of rapid growth and expansion, his knowledge and expertise will be even more important in the years ahead. For us on the Airbus, Tail Rota , is the "Great guy". He is always willing to help, and if able, he will leave me in the can every time.
Please, if at all possible, I would urge F/O Tail Rota be allowed to take my position as Captain and upgrade immeadiately. I will remain in the office and I will push a pen, never to come out, until 65 years of age and help see us through the busy years ahead.
I promise!!!!!
Sincerely,
Brian Murray
Captain, Airbus
TRE/TRI/DME/VOR/NDB/BSc/LLB/MBE/CNN/ABC/FOX News
TR
PS these names and events are purely fictional any person or persons who may feel affected by this post can direct all correspondence to Super Captain at www.Iamthegreatespilotthateverlived.com
Dear (AS),
I am writing to express my concern over the possible resignation of F/O Tail Rota
this summer. As a relatively new well known, Management Wannabie at Emirates and new resident in the gulf region, I cannot express enough how helpful and comforting it has been to have Tail Rota as my first officer. He has a unique skill which allows him to meet the needs of the bent at the knee, brown noser, while at the same time not assisting me with my needs. With Emirates entering another phase of rapid growth and expansion, his knowledge and expertise will be even more important in the years ahead. For us on the Airbus, Tail Rota
, is the "Great guy". He is always willing to help, and if able, he will leave me in the can every time. Please, if at all possible, I would urge F/O Tail Rota
be allowed to take my position as Captain and upgrade immeadiately. I will remain in the office and I will push a pen, never to come out, until 65 years of age and help see us through the busy years ahead. I promise!!!!!
Sincerely,
Brian Murray
Captain, Airbus
TRE/TRI/DME/VOR/NDB/BSc/LLB/MBE/CNN/ABC/FOX News
TR
PS these names and events are purely fictional any person or persons who may feel affected by this post can direct all correspondence to Super Captain at www.Iamthegreatespilotthateverlived.com
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Time on your hands
Boy's Boy's Boy's
It amazes me the you have so much time to write these scathing remarks about fellow pilots when you barely have time to recover from all that flying that you claim you do.
You have made your pionts, now how about going onto something a little more important than slagging each other.
(Ready for you "Slagging" me now)
It amazes me the you have so much time to write these scathing remarks about fellow pilots when you barely have time to recover from all that flying that you claim you do.
You have made your pionts, now how about going onto something a little more important than slagging each other.
(Ready for you "Slagging" me now)