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jeddah and sama
I will be in the same situation of Firestorm, i have got a job offer(F/O) 61/30 and probably starting in mid may. if there is anybody that can send info on jeddah housing and any other helpul information is very much appreciated.
Thank you all anyway (at least for having read this post to the end....
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Big.
Thank you all anyway (at least for having read this post to the end....
)Big.
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” um coração fraco não pode comer uma galinha gorda!!!”
Regarding housing... Your gs will be in bahrain probably, during that time you will be able to contact more pilots from the company, if you want pm me and i will give u my email or skypeto chat and help as much as possible. About the new contract offered to you guys, not even one pilot agrees with it. We have been strieving to enhance the conditions but unfortunately nobody listen and things got a little bit rougher.
You will need more support from the company in jeddah in order to manage your start. Expect respect and support from pilots here and total cooperation, but really... Be brave. My name is ricardo moraes and i am working as pic here. Take care gents.
Regarding housing... Your gs will be in bahrain probably, during that time you will be able to contact more pilots from the company, if you want pm me and i will give u my email or skypeto chat and help as much as possible. About the new contract offered to you guys, not even one pilot agrees with it. We have been strieving to enhance the conditions but unfortunately nobody listen and things got a little bit rougher.
You will need more support from the company in jeddah in order to manage your start. Expect respect and support from pilots here and total cooperation, but really... Be brave. My name is ricardo moraes and i am working as pic here. Take care gents.
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There are compounds and hotels in Jeddah that will accept long term renters without Iqamas. They will however need a letter from the employer and a visa of some sort (visit/work/business) plus 6 or 12 months rent in advance plus a security deposit. Most of the established and secure housing compounds will require the Iqama and the contract to be signed by the employer
The "normal" requirement is the Iqama. Life without it here is just a constant hassle and costs more. No bank account, no driver's licence and you can only rent a car (approx 2000SAR a month). Make sure you have an International Driver's Licence!!
If/when you make it to Jeddah there will be guys to walk you through the problems.
Good luck.
The "normal" requirement is the Iqama. Life without it here is just a constant hassle and costs more. No bank account, no driver's licence and you can only rent a car (approx 2000SAR a month). Make sure you have an International Driver's Licence!!
If/when you make it to Jeddah there will be guys to walk you through the problems.
Good luck.
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Please Join - I Need My Annual Leave
Hello, please join Sama now so I can take my annual leave. I have had it planned for some six months now and was just told that I now cannot go. I am sure that my family will understand and be happy to stay here for several more months without a break. A total of two captains can take their vacations over the the next two months. I promise that you are going to love it here!
"Dear All Crew members
As you all know the continuous resignations we received suddenly those days specially FOs is very high and we are to the minimums requirements to cover the operation rosters so from this view i apologize for any inconvenience to this matter & to announce that all vacation to FOs will be cancel for month of JUN & JUL 2010 and if there is any possibility for any open Slot will be control by the seniority. Strongly appreciated yours understand the situation we facing and to keep our aircraft rolling and flying to serve our customers and all of you are part of the SAMA organization and without yours support we cannot move forward so we need yours support especially In the coming summers, we have new class will start Very soon will give us relief. For the captain position will planning to give vacation for two position in month of JUN & JUL 2010 . This is base on the present situation if any change came the plan will be change as well. Thanks for yours understand & support .
Abdulkader H Alsowayigh
Chief Pilot SAMA Airline
mo+966564088114
of+96612034405
[email protected]"
I wonder what the reason could be why every single person who has the skills to find a job elsewhere is leaving this company with immediate effect... Exodus, movement of the pilots. Oh Yeah
"Dear All Crew members
As you all know the continuous resignations we received suddenly those days specially FOs is very high and we are to the minimums requirements to cover the operation rosters so from this view i apologize for any inconvenience to this matter & to announce that all vacation to FOs will be cancel for month of JUN & JUL 2010 and if there is any possibility for any open Slot will be control by the seniority. Strongly appreciated yours understand the situation we facing and to keep our aircraft rolling and flying to serve our customers and all of you are part of the SAMA organization and without yours support we cannot move forward so we need yours support especially In the coming summers, we have new class will start Very soon will give us relief. For the captain position will planning to give vacation for two position in month of JUN & JUL 2010 . This is base on the present situation if any change came the plan will be change as well. Thanks for yours understand & support .
Abdulkader H Alsowayigh
Chief Pilot SAMA Airline
mo+966564088114
of+96612034405
[email protected]"
I wonder what the reason could be why every single person who has the skills to find a job elsewhere is leaving this company with immediate effect... Exodus, movement of the pilots. Oh Yeah
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Well Fellahs. I have finally made my decision which is not to join Sama mostly because of the dreadful salary (on the 60/30 contract the annual salary was about 50% of the full time salary, and equated to doing 8 months work for 6 months pay). Thanks to all of you have given some very sound, and honest advice about the company, but after considering all the evidence my instinct is to stay well away for the time being.
I hope you all have a good season, and the ban on leave doesn't actually happen. You all seem to be really decent folk, and I think it would have been fun to work with you, but the contract, and the terms and conditions were not worth the hassle that I can see the management would be.
I hope you all have a good season, and the ban on leave doesn't actually happen. You all seem to be really decent folk, and I think it would have been fun to work with you, but the contract, and the terms and conditions were not worth the hassle that I can see the management would be.
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Dear Firestorm,
For us is really sad news to know you are not joining SAMA specially because now we are stuck with no vacations because of the alleged shortage of pilots, mainly first officers, but I cannot deny that you have made the right choice. This new contract is bad joke and believe it or not the upper management considers it as one of the best in the region. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Good luck for you.
And for us who will remain in SAMA, lets hope some light come to this narrow minds and they start doing something to put SAMA in the right track. (If this is possible).
Regards,
Desert_Highlander.
For us is really sad news to know you are not joining SAMA specially because now we are stuck with no vacations because of the alleged shortage of pilots, mainly first officers, but I cannot deny that you have made the right choice. This new contract is bad joke and believe it or not the upper management considers it as one of the best in the region. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Good luck for you.
And for us who will remain in SAMA, lets hope some light come to this narrow minds and they start doing something to put SAMA in the right track. (If this is possible).
Regards,
Desert_Highlander.
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fire and storm
Firestorm,
you are just 110% right about your post, the new contract is a shame, this management thinks every single pilot is a monkey and ready to accept their lies and misconduct. You were not going to be paid enough to have a life here or elsewhere, and vacations were cut in half.
Very good decision you took, congratulations for the clarity you had in your thoughts about this company.
They are desperate for pilots because they are unable and unreliable to keep the ones they had and the ones they still have here, and all remaining ones are looking for some other place to go working.
Piracy in the air and it never ends.
Take care and safe flying.
Duster
you are just 110% right about your post, the new contract is a shame, this management thinks every single pilot is a monkey and ready to accept their lies and misconduct. You were not going to be paid enough to have a life here or elsewhere, and vacations were cut in half.
Very good decision you took, congratulations for the clarity you had in your thoughts about this company.
They are desperate for pilots because they are unable and unreliable to keep the ones they had and the ones they still have here, and all remaining ones are looking for some other place to go working.
Piracy in the air and it never ends.
Take care and safe flying.
Duster
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New group of pilots
Does anyone know something about the new group of pilots?
How many?
When are they coming?
And specially did they receive the contract they are coming to?
How many?
When are they coming?
And specially did they receive the contract they are coming to?
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life is full of surprises
more pilots will move to flydubai and many other companies, just for a simple mistake sama insists in doing, no respect for anyone; salaries are delayed again. HR is the biggest disaster in this company with second or third class managers on key positions. surprises? only a fortune teller to say something like that; join and enjoy as you like mr shinishtruh.
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iqama
Well I'm not sure but rent some thing in KSA without all papers from your sponsors will be quite impossible , and don't wait company will help you .
They loose a lot of money doing
and try to pretending be a low cost company using evil intentions against crew.
My best advice is try something more professional in aviation .Sponsor MUST be a sponsor otherwise you will be in trouble .
They loose a lot of money doing
and try to pretending be a low cost company using evil intentions against crew. My best advice is try something more professional in aviation .Sponsor MUST be a sponsor otherwise you will be in trouble .
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Go back to America (if you can)
There are two big problems with the management at Sama and they are both American. Neither of them are good enough at their jobs to be employed in their home country, so they go to the worst place in the world because they think that they will not be detected as the frauds that they really are. Lying and cheating are all that they know to cover up their inadequacies and they are being well paid to do it. Let's see how many people they have to manage by the end of this summer.. I am sure that you would go home if you could Jims Gibs. Doing the things that you do on a daily baisis because you are so desperate for a job does not justify your behavior. The sky is starting to fall now and we all know that it was you and your CEO buddey who caused it to happen. 
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This Just In
Oh wait, I guess that my crystal ball was running a bit slow. The sky has now officially fallen a bit sooner than I forecast. My sympathies to all those who stuck it out in hopes of upgrading, and all those who kept this POS airline running for three years. The tradgedy is for you and all of your families who are now stuck in Saudi and Bahrain who will undoutedly bear the full expense of moving back to your home countries and starting the process of finding yet another job. Bruce Ashby and Jim Gibbs were an icredible team and were able to put the final nail in the coffin in record time. Mabrook! Mabrook!!