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turkish, flydubai, hong kong, shenzen are hiring... but if you are desperate... i would say minimum 6 months to bring your family to the kingdom; lifestyle will be extremely diferent.
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hi guys,
I am looking info about sama.
I hope there is someone here inside the company or at least that knows well how things go, that can say something about roster, salary and everything else.
Any info are welcomed.
Thank You Guys.
big
I am looking info about sama.
I hope there is someone here inside the company or at least that knows well how things go, that can say something about roster, salary and everything else.
Any info are welcomed.
Thank You Guys.
big
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1 Roster - always change.
2 Day off - is D0 (D zero) any period of 24 hours. Not civilian day, no compensation if the company decides to change it without previous notice.
2.5 16 hours duty time.
3 No resident visas - only consultant ones, nobody knows why or what's happening.
4 For base in jeddah - companies in the kingdom need to sponsor the employee singing rental contracts with real state companies and the employee... no support there, you are by yourself.
5 No insurances, only an ordinary medical one.
6 Aircraft with +- 20 years old.
7 New aircraft - fairy tale.
8 Salary is good - not on time.
9 Only transportation and house allowances included in the salary.
10 Do not make any mistake nor ask questions, zero tolerance by company's side.
11 Life in the kingdom is totally different for westerners.
12 Women not allowed to drive.
13 School is difficult for foreigners in Jeddah.
14 Housing is difficult.
15 No ID tickets.
15.5 No per diems.
16 Pay attention to safety.
17 Pay attention to your contract, what is written in English may not reflect what you have in arabic, details are important.
18 Good luck
19 Etc....
There are many guys from sama in here.
2 Day off - is D0 (D zero) any period of 24 hours. Not civilian day, no compensation if the company decides to change it without previous notice.
2.5 16 hours duty time.
3 No resident visas - only consultant ones, nobody knows why or what's happening.
4 For base in jeddah - companies in the kingdom need to sponsor the employee singing rental contracts with real state companies and the employee... no support there, you are by yourself.
5 No insurances, only an ordinary medical one.
6 Aircraft with +- 20 years old.
7 New aircraft - fairy tale.
8 Salary is good - not on time.
9 Only transportation and house allowances included in the salary.
10 Do not make any mistake nor ask questions, zero tolerance by company's side.
11 Life in the kingdom is totally different for westerners.
12 Women not allowed to drive.
13 School is difficult for foreigners in Jeddah.
14 Housing is difficult.
15 No ID tickets.
15.5 No per diems.
16 Pay attention to safety.
17 Pay attention to your contract, what is written in English may not reflect what you have in arabic, details are important.
18 Good luck
19 Etc....
There are many guys from sama in here.
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ok thank you for the reply.
I was just curious on any issue since I do know just little about it. and willing to get any useful hints (if there are of course).
of course it will not changing my point of view or anything else.
Kind regards
Big.
I was just curious on any issue since I do know just little about it. and willing to get any useful hints (if there are of course).
of course it will not changing my point of view or anything else.
Kind regards
Big.
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Hello Firestorm I was there the 11th, a pleasure meeting you too.
For better or worse the offer me the job yesterday, but I'm not signing anything till I have read the small print.
For better or worse the offer me the job yesterday, but I'm not signing anything till I have read the small print.
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Further to BigFoot's post, can anyone supply a good email address/contact details for Sama. The online application is still sending failed to deliver messages.
Cheers,
TFS.
Cheers,
TFS.
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All the contact info can be found here:
Sama - PILOT CAREER CENTRE
Interview is normally done over one long day but can occasionally spread to 1.5 days. Fairly standard format.
1. Welcome paperwork check fill out sama application form.
2. Basic English test and a few very simple arithmetic questions, you also have to write a 200 word letter to a friend. If you native English speaker they are a little apologetic about it but it's a part of their recruitment process.
3. Group exercise - logic puzzle "the Ford is 2 cars to the left of the red car. There are no cars to the right of the Audi"....etc etc 20 mins
4. Interview - Panel format 4 on the panel. Chief Pilot, Head of Training, UK Sim Trainer as a consultant, and HR who leads the interview.
What do you know about SAMA. What do you know about Saudi. Will you taking your family. That will you bring to SAMA, sell yourself to us. What is the benefit of an SOP. How would you deal with someone that ignores or operates outside the SOP? Give us an example of you having to deal with a difficult Capt./ FO. Recall items for an engine fire, what happens when you pull the fire switch (wing spa fuels valves close etc etc). Give us you departure brief from your home airfield.
5. Sim- @ MAN for me, Straight forward auto-throttle and FD on depart level off. No AP. Auto-throttle out, climbing turns on to headings, descend downwind for ILS set up for arrival. Manual ILS with FD to a baulked landing go around from <100ft.
6. 2hr Barrage Test. in 6 parts total about 250 questions, 200 personality profiling. Then more basic english, followed by, mathematics & math problem solving. Nothing too tricky no calculators allowed.
That's all I started at about 09:00 finished about 19:00.
A long day, but very pleasnt friendly people not out to trick you or make the process difficult they really do just want to find out a bit about you.
Best of Luck and se you in the Sandpit.
Flat Cap
Sama - PILOT CAREER CENTRE
Interview is normally done over one long day but can occasionally spread to 1.5 days. Fairly standard format.
1. Welcome paperwork check fill out sama application form.
2. Basic English test and a few very simple arithmetic questions, you also have to write a 200 word letter to a friend. If you native English speaker they are a little apologetic about it but it's a part of their recruitment process.
3. Group exercise - logic puzzle "the Ford is 2 cars to the left of the red car. There are no cars to the right of the Audi"....etc etc 20 mins
4. Interview - Panel format 4 on the panel. Chief Pilot, Head of Training, UK Sim Trainer as a consultant, and HR who leads the interview.
What do you know about SAMA. What do you know about Saudi. Will you taking your family. That will you bring to SAMA, sell yourself to us. What is the benefit of an SOP. How would you deal with someone that ignores or operates outside the SOP? Give us an example of you having to deal with a difficult Capt./ FO. Recall items for an engine fire, what happens when you pull the fire switch (wing spa fuels valves close etc etc). Give us you departure brief from your home airfield.
5. Sim- @ MAN for me, Straight forward auto-throttle and FD on depart level off. No AP. Auto-throttle out, climbing turns on to headings, descend downwind for ILS set up for arrival. Manual ILS with FD to a baulked landing go around from <100ft.
6. 2hr Barrage Test. in 6 parts total about 250 questions, 200 personality profiling. Then more basic english, followed by, mathematics & math problem solving. Nothing too tricky no calculators allowed.
That's all I started at about 09:00 finished about 19:00.
A long day, but very pleasnt friendly people not out to trick you or make the process difficult they really do just want to find out a bit about you.
Best of Luck and se you in the Sandpit.
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Has anyone interviewed Dec/Jan had a contract or course date? I had an offer 10 days ago by email, but nothing further, so no idea on t&c's etc.
It seems to be the same with the others on my screening who were offered a job.
It seems to be the same with the others on my screening who were offered a job.
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My God take him back
Guys this MB is killing Cebu Pac please take the PA and or junior planner back now.............................. He is the know it all of nothing
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block of days off are not allowed, not granted at all, you will have 8 periods of ”any” 24 hours after 16 hours duty time as your day off. To answer Mutt, more than 50 mil last year, and better to be flying your a320's. Regarding cebu pac... Please keep mb away from here.