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Also dont buy it. The message was not one of the most tactful I have ever heard. A bit of politeness especially under the present stressful circumstances would go a long way. I have always been pretty helpful when asked to help out but unfortunately there seem to be one or two controllers who make your hackles stand up the minute you answer the phone, and I emphasize not all of them are like that.
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Roster Change, it would be fair to say that we do sympathise with your plight. I can only imagine the crap and pressure you get from our illustrious leaders to fill vacant seats, caused by their crap planning and complete lack of awareness of what it takes to run a decent flight operation.
However as long as we all prop up a crumbling system they will not be held accountable for it.
So if I may be so bold to make a suggestion. Next time you are struggling to fill the seats, sit back and relax a bit more. If the flights don't get filled, then the system might get fixed.
Otherwise you are just another poor bu**er with your finger in the dyke trying to stop the flood.
However as long as we all prop up a crumbling system they will not be held accountable for it.
So if I may be so bold to make a suggestion. Next time you are struggling to fill the seats, sit back and relax a bit more. If the flights don't get filled, then the system might get fixed.
Otherwise you are just another poor bu**er with your finger in the dyke trying to stop the flood.
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Violate..
Completely agree with you.
Roster Change, you should ask yourself the question: ''Why do I get stressed if a flight does not get crewed? Why do I have to work harder in order to fix management f*ck ups which have been there for at least a year without any effort from management to improve the situation? Why would I go that extra mile for a management that tries to scr*w me as much as they can for their personal gain?''
For myself, I do pick up the phone when you guys call me, but I friendly tell you that I do not fly on my days off. I would love to be back in a situation where I would do everything for my company, where I would like to help out, but I can't see the point at this time.
The only thing that can get us out of this mess is a rough time for the company (read management). As long as everyone will go that extra mile and work on their days off, or goes into discretion as a normal operation, things will hardly change.
I would call for a 'work-to-rule'. Go exactly according to the book, for everything. Never work on days off, never go into discretion,.. Nothing bad, nothing management can punish you for, just throw all your FLEXIBILITY away. The company might suffer for a few weeks, but at least the message will reach the higher echelons. It's the only hope we have to get improvements.
MR8
Tone down the language please MR8 - we can't allow the use of obvious bad langauge as there are women, children and the faint-of-heart on these forums as well. It also loses you credibility to be blasting from the hip rather than orating from the orifice. Thanks. 4HP
Completely agree with you.
Roster Change, you should ask yourself the question: ''Why do I get stressed if a flight does not get crewed? Why do I have to work harder in order to fix management f*ck ups which have been there for at least a year without any effort from management to improve the situation? Why would I go that extra mile for a management that tries to scr*w me as much as they can for their personal gain?''
For myself, I do pick up the phone when you guys call me, but I friendly tell you that I do not fly on my days off. I would love to be back in a situation where I would do everything for my company, where I would like to help out, but I can't see the point at this time.
The only thing that can get us out of this mess is a rough time for the company (read management). As long as everyone will go that extra mile and work on their days off, or goes into discretion as a normal operation, things will hardly change.
I would call for a 'work-to-rule'. Go exactly according to the book, for everything. Never work on days off, never go into discretion,.. Nothing bad, nothing management can punish you for, just throw all your FLEXIBILITY away. The company might suffer for a few weeks, but at least the message will reach the higher echelons. It's the only hope we have to get improvements.
MR8
Tone down the language please MR8 - we can't allow the use of obvious bad langauge as there are women, children and the faint-of-heart on these forums as well. It also loses you credibility to be blasting from the hip rather than orating from the orifice. Thanks. 4HP
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It's not only you guys
Following al the threads on EK and the scheduling problems at the moment, I'd like to mention that EK isn't the only airline where this occurs....
My employer in europe does have the same "opportunities" as crew scheduling of EK. opportunity (according management books) = a problem isn't a problem but a possibilty the change your own future.
After a social talk to one of the schedulers this morning I heard the following: "In total there are 32 positions (fo and cap) open for the next week, so please can you fly asap!?"
For the record I wasn't at home for a week or something, I was in my first day off.
And w're talking about a non expanding only reducing costs company here!
Conclussion:
As soon as figure people gain power, working people are slaves.
Unless..... We (the people) stick together and the rules!
United you stand, even if it's not allowed by law!
LS
My employer in europe does have the same "opportunities" as crew scheduling of EK. opportunity (according management books) = a problem isn't a problem but a possibilty the change your own future.
After a social talk to one of the schedulers this morning I heard the following: "In total there are 32 positions (fo and cap) open for the next week, so please can you fly asap!?"
For the record I wasn't at home for a week or something, I was in my first day off.
And w're talking about a non expanding only reducing costs company here!
Conclussion:
As soon as figure people gain power, working people are slaves.
Unless..... We (the people) stick together and the rules!
United you stand, even if it's not allowed by law!
LS
