Gulf Air 320 Rostering!!!!
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Re: Gulf Air 320 Rostering!!!!
Hello,
reading you coments it seems like a nightmare to fly for gulf air !
I'm flying left seat in europ and just put my application for F/O A320/B767. I now wonder if it's a wise move. Can you guys tell if the package is that bad. About flying a lot, how many night stop / month do you have ?
Thank for the info
happy landings.
reading you coments it seems like a nightmare to fly for gulf air !
I'm flying left seat in europ and just put my application for F/O A320/B767. I now wonder if it's a wise move. Can you guys tell if the package is that bad. About flying a lot, how many night stop / month do you have ?
Thank for the info
happy landings.
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Re: Gulf Air 320 Rostering!!!!
A few Q's to add to Squids
Choice between Airbus or 76 on being offered a job?
Is the 76 a senior fleet?
What trips does the 76 do?
Thanks
Leviathan
Choice between Airbus or 76 on being offered a job?
Is the 76 a senior fleet?
What trips does the 76 do?
Thanks
Leviathan
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Re: Gulf Air 320 Rostering!!!!
No big improvements. I just fly to India at night and intra-gulf, as usual.
Let's all hope the extra 10 guys will alleviate the pressure.
Lev: between 767 and 320, I think the Airbus is a better rating in the market. If you plan to make a career with GF, it doesn't really matter which fleet you end up with.
Squid: Leaving Europe to come here is a hard call to make. Very personal. Wise move is to spend a week in the island, if possible with the miss, if you have one. If you think you guys can tackle it, pack your gear and come.
LDG
Let's all hope the extra 10 guys will alleviate the pressure.
Lev: between 767 and 320, I think the Airbus is a better rating in the market. If you plan to make a career with GF, it doesn't really matter which fleet you end up with.
Squid: Leaving Europe to come here is a hard call to make. Very personal. Wise move is to spend a week in the island, if possible with the miss, if you have one. If you think you guys can tackle it, pack your gear and come.
LDG
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Re: Gulf Air 320 Rostering!!!!
Sorry guys, but WELL, BOO-HOO-HOO!!!
75ish hours???
Ever seen a cabin-crew roster?? 110-120-130+ hours...
And they are the ones who have to put up with the pax, constantly appologizing for everyone elses (not flight deck) stuff-ups, delays, delays,delays, inoperative equipment, lavs that aren't fixed in months, rude ground staff (usually in the Gulf) .....
75ish hours???
Ever seen a cabin-crew roster?? 110-120-130+ hours...
And they are the ones who have to put up with the pax, constantly appologizing for everyone elses (not flight deck) stuff-ups, delays, delays,delays, inoperative equipment, lavs that aren't fixed in months, rude ground staff (usually in the Gulf) .....
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The problems are simple - pay issues and rostering. With the rostering beware that favourtism is rampant. You will fly crap and the ones with the connections will fly the ATH/IST day turn etc. They claim that everyone gets to bid for once choice but it is obvious to everyone that that is not the case.
For those that claim that is not the case look at everyones roster on the gulfairco employee section--it is clear as day.
Untill GF deals with this problem more people will leave. Several leaving off the 767, 6 320 FO's interviewed at BA, at least one leaving to EK, several 330 guys waiting for the word from Euro operators and more considering leaving.
For GF managment-- deal with these rostering issues and 90% of you problems/complaining will disappear.
For those that claim that is not the case look at everyones roster on the gulfairco employee section--it is clear as day.
Untill GF deals with this problem more people will leave. Several leaving off the 767, 6 320 FO's interviewed at BA, at least one leaving to EK, several 330 guys waiting for the word from Euro operators and more considering leaving.
For GF managment-- deal with these rostering issues and 90% of you problems/complaining will disappear.
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Re: Gulf Air 320 Rostering!!!!
Slowdown there gulfboy
Those 75ish hours you mock are block hours, ie off chocks - on chocks, not DUTY hours.
Think about it.....
Me personally - 92 BLOCK hours for Dec, and thats on short haul ops
Blusky99
Agreed - the system is there to produce fair and equal rostering, but individuals intercede and brown nosing and favouritism is what we end up with. I am not part of the 'in' crowd, but I have to admit, my Jan roster has shown a marked improvement and so far there's been minimal dicking with it, hopefully it will continue.
On a positive note - regarding the recent emails/AIMs messages re the acknowledgement that we are under pressure and its appreciated - its a start and at least they accept we are overworked. Makes things slightly more palatable for me. Slightly...
Those 75ish hours you mock are block hours, ie off chocks - on chocks, not DUTY hours.
Think about it.....
Me personally - 92 BLOCK hours for Dec, and thats on short haul ops
Blusky99
Agreed - the system is there to produce fair and equal rostering, but individuals intercede and brown nosing and favouritism is what we end up with. I am not part of the 'in' crowd, but I have to admit, my Jan roster has shown a marked improvement and so far there's been minimal dicking with it, hopefully it will continue.
On a positive note - regarding the recent emails/AIMs messages re the acknowledgement that we are under pressure and its appreciated - its a start and at least they accept we are overworked. Makes things slightly more palatable for me. Slightly...
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Re: Gulf Air 320 Rostering!!!!
2 ways of flying 75-80 hours a month:
a) BAH-ATH-BAH: 8h x 10 trips = 80h.
b) BAH-DMM-BAH: 1h x 80 trips = 80h.
Regarding cabin crew lines. It's a different league. As a matter of fact it's a all different sport.
a) BAH-ATH-BAH: 8h x 10 trips = 80h.
b) BAH-DMM-BAH: 1h x 80 trips = 80h.
Regarding cabin crew lines. It's a different league. As a matter of fact it's a all different sport.
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Re: Gulf Air 320 Rostering!!!!
All the commotion brings back memories, but I think things have gotten alot worst since I left half 2003. Then it was the redeployment of the 76 fleet to AUH where management (ops) did absolutely nothing to help the guys to move in an easy way. Now it is everything they do to tell pilots to F**K off. I am still so happy I could make the step to go back. Loved Bahrain nothing wrong with that, but GF. . . . .
Good luck to all of you
Good luck to all of you
