B767 Direct Entry Captains at GF
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Gulf Air Competition
None of us know the so called bassines model if you don’t have one you can’t show it but I do not blame Hogan airline industry is very fluid who would have thought oil prices would go so high. But facts stand two destination and 3 aircraft gone indictors would show an Airline struggling. I agree we don’t have the backing of governments anymore and have to have a commercially viable airline but when you have unfair government support from the competition pride of the nation comes first. I have seen to many people who are fair and honest be screwed by the ones who are corrupted.
It is amazing that Gulf Air wants a level playing field when it comes to competition and I couldn’t agree more, but places restriction on its employees by not issuing of a NOC even when you have completed many contract periods.
Those wishing to stay or those who want to leave the supply and demand principle apply, for many years Airlines have been reducing wages for staff, not CEO though, because we were so many. Now the tide has turned and it is time wages do improve but now airlines scream we have to restrict labour.
Competition, fair competition is all I ask for but for all including employees.
If Gulf Air wants to retain staff just show a career path and I am sure more would stay.
Now the so called Professional Pilots will show there wisdom here as many do and again I will be disgusted by the people who were given opportunities to progress and say how great and fair the world is because it has not affected them.
Start standing up for your fellow pilot and stop bringing the name of pilots down.
It is amazing that Gulf Air wants a level playing field when it comes to competition and I couldn’t agree more, but places restriction on its employees by not issuing of a NOC even when you have completed many contract periods.
Those wishing to stay or those who want to leave the supply and demand principle apply, for many years Airlines have been reducing wages for staff, not CEO though, because we were so many. Now the tide has turned and it is time wages do improve but now airlines scream we have to restrict labour.
Competition, fair competition is all I ask for but for all including employees.
If Gulf Air wants to retain staff just show a career path and I am sure more would stay.
Now the so called Professional Pilots will show there wisdom here as many do and again I will be disgusted by the people who were given opportunities to progress and say how great and fair the world is because it has not affected them.
Start standing up for your fellow pilot and stop bringing the name of pilots down.
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Very well put, Bedouin, some others should take a leaf out of your book instead of waffling on and on with the same propaganda piffle!
I’m not so sure that we are struggling, GF has always made money, It’s just stopping individuals indulging that’s always been the problem. At the moment I believe there is a conflict of interests, if you own one third of a company you can in effect have some influence on how it conducts business, which in this case could be which routes, enough said! This all happened before with an operator down the road. It must be very hard if not impossible to have a business model under complicated circumstances like this, I am sure any CEO would not want to be in a situation like this!
I do think that things have changed for the better and because of the shortage of qualified and competent Captains, you will find that the powers to be have figured out that many of the First Officers are more than qualified to be upgraded to Captains and of course this will bring a little roster stability when the new upgrades are bonded.
You are correct in saying that GF is now screaming unfair competition, and of course we all agree it should be an even playing field! But apparently that does not apply to the employees, all should be fair in business GF would say as long as we make the rules. No NOC for you buckwheat because then it might be a level playing field! Me thinks it’s a LOB!
I’m not so sure that we are struggling, GF has always made money, It’s just stopping individuals indulging that’s always been the problem. At the moment I believe there is a conflict of interests, if you own one third of a company you can in effect have some influence on how it conducts business, which in this case could be which routes, enough said! This all happened before with an operator down the road. It must be very hard if not impossible to have a business model under complicated circumstances like this, I am sure any CEO would not want to be in a situation like this!
I do think that things have changed for the better and because of the shortage of qualified and competent Captains, you will find that the powers to be have figured out that many of the First Officers are more than qualified to be upgraded to Captains and of course this will bring a little roster stability when the new upgrades are bonded.
You are correct in saying that GF is now screaming unfair competition, and of course we all agree it should be an even playing field! But apparently that does not apply to the employees, all should be fair in business GF would say as long as we make the rules. No NOC for you buckwheat because then it might be a level playing field! Me thinks it’s a LOB!
