Middle East hypocrites (and the watches that they wear)
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: oz
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Middle East hypocrites
Do many of you find it ironic that countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia donated little money to the tsunami victims even though they have many expats from sri lanka, thailand, and india working in their own country.
I find it ironic that many european countries and america are doing more for the victims then the middle eastern countries who rely on the foreign workers from those ravaged nations. I was reading that saudi arabia gave 10million in donations and america gave approximately 325million and sent 8 warships to help the victims. Its hypocritical that countries in the middle east blame the western world for problems and yet when it is time to help, others countries like the uae and saudi give next to nothing.
I find it ironic that many european countries and america are doing more for the victims then the middle eastern countries who rely on the foreign workers from those ravaged nations. I was reading that saudi arabia gave 10million in donations and america gave approximately 325million and sent 8 warships to help the victims. Its hypocritical that countries in the middle east blame the western world for problems and yet when it is time to help, others countries like the uae and saudi give next to nothing.
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: ME
Posts: 5,502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Saudi Arabia has increased that amount to $30mil, that equates to approx $2 per national. They have also planned a telethon for tomorrow night.
You might also be interested in checking out the actions of the Islamic Development Bank.
So please stick to the facts!
Mutt.
You might also be interested in checking out the actions of the Islamic Development Bank.
So please stick to the facts!
Mutt.
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,451
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just because it hasn't been reported in Australia doesn't mean it hasn't happened, 'newbie'. (I've just rfeturned froma trip to the UK, and after reading some of the newspapers there, you could be forgiven for believing that the UK was the only country donating anything to the disaster, and I suspect the same might apply in many other countries.)
I'd have thought a donation of 20 million US Dollars from a country the size of the UAE was anything but stingy. (It's certainly a bigger donation per capita than Australia.) And just like Australia, that 20 million is from the government of the country, and doesn't include the private donations made by both UAE Nationals and expats within the country, which I understsand to be quite substantial (just like Australia).
The Indian and Sri Lankan communities in the UAE have also been extraordinarily active in raising funds and getting food and clothing to the affected areas. And if you had any knowledge of the area, you'd know that any gift from many if not most of the people of those communities comes from pockets considerably less deep than the average pocket in Australia.
You do everyone a disservice trying to score political points over an issue like this. Stranger things have happened - maybe this horror will be a catalyst in getting some of the hard heads and hot heads in the world to see their view of the world in something other than stark black and white.
I'd have thought a donation of 20 million US Dollars from a country the size of the UAE was anything but stingy. (It's certainly a bigger donation per capita than Australia.) And just like Australia, that 20 million is from the government of the country, and doesn't include the private donations made by both UAE Nationals and expats within the country, which I understsand to be quite substantial (just like Australia).
The Indian and Sri Lankan communities in the UAE have also been extraordinarily active in raising funds and getting food and clothing to the affected areas. And if you had any knowledge of the area, you'd know that any gift from many if not most of the people of those communities comes from pockets considerably less deep than the average pocket in Australia.
You do everyone a disservice trying to score political points over an issue like this. Stranger things have happened - maybe this horror will be a catalyst in getting some of the hard heads and hot heads in the world to see their view of the world in something other than stark black and white.
Last edited by Wiley; 5th Jan 2005 at 05:19.
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Over here
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hmm
Considering that ALMOST 100,000 people in the largest Muslim country in the world, and thousands from other areas lost their life, I'd have expected a bit more "help" from the Gulf states, as opposed to the banks.
Mutt, you mention $30 million from the magic kingdom and a telethon - care to tell us what the telethon they had for Palestine raised as opposed to what they raise for Tsunami victims?
Apathy is the word of choice here I believe, and its very sad.
And before anyone mentions anything about not understanding etc, I live in the Middle East also.
JFF
Mutt, you mention $30 million from the magic kingdom and a telethon - care to tell us what the telethon they had for Palestine raised as opposed to what they raise for Tsunami victims?
Apathy is the word of choice here I believe, and its very sad.
And before anyone mentions anything about not understanding etc, I live in the Middle East also.
JFF
Last edited by justforfun; 5th Jan 2005 at 10:37.
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: As hot as hell, but lots more fun
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Forum Newbie and JFF if you live in the Middle East then you would know that the Shaikh of Abu Dhabi has donated $20 million. For an Emirates of that size - I think that is pretty fair. But I suppose it is much more fun to critize when you don't have all the facts.
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: As hot as hell, but lots more fun
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey, EK Groupie (nee Dicksy) there must be some point to your last comment - just battling to put your fascination with my wrist apparel into the context of this thread. Sorry - still drawing a blank.
P.S. But I'll bet you own a Breitling - you know what they say about guys with big watches...
P.S. But I'll bet you own a Breitling - you know what they say about guys with big watches...
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 846
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
dumpvalve
Size ( of Abu Dhabi that is rather than Dicksy's watch or whatever ) has nothing to do with it but rather how rich one is to compare his $20 Million donation which is a drop in the ocean ( or Gulf if you prefer it ) compared to his financial support to the Taliban over the years.
With such high Oil Prices I do not think $20 Million is particularly generous to his mainly Muslim brothers who have suffered most in Indonesia.
The amount given by the UK Government ie Taxpayers merely increases Gordon Browns already huge monthly borrowings which have interest added and have to be repaid in due course which makes UK's contribution particularly generous IMHO. Pocket money to the Ruler of Abu Dhabi and others.
Don't know what the Islamic Development Bank has done Mutt. Please enlighten us.
Size ( of Abu Dhabi that is rather than Dicksy's watch or whatever ) has nothing to do with it but rather how rich one is to compare his $20 Million donation which is a drop in the ocean ( or Gulf if you prefer it ) compared to his financial support to the Taliban over the years.
With such high Oil Prices I do not think $20 Million is particularly generous to his mainly Muslim brothers who have suffered most in Indonesia.
The amount given by the UK Government ie Taxpayers merely increases Gordon Browns already huge monthly borrowings which have interest added and have to be repaid in due course which makes UK's contribution particularly generous IMHO. Pocket money to the Ruler of Abu Dhabi and others.
Don't know what the Islamic Development Bank has done Mutt. Please enlighten us.
Wiley
One Billion dollars pledged by the Australian Government plus military resources. Public donations around the 60 million mark.
Saudia Arabia pumps millions into Indonesia- through Wahabi boarding schools etc. Even JI gets some of the pie. Religious development but never economic development!
It is amazing how a Rolex can mittigate reality!
In a part of the world, where they rarely have the decency to repatriate the body of a sub continent worker killed on a building site, I am watching with interest reaction from the Arab world.
One Billion dollars pledged by the Australian Government plus military resources. Public donations around the 60 million mark.
Saudia Arabia pumps millions into Indonesia- through Wahabi boarding schools etc. Even JI gets some of the pie. Religious development but never economic development!
It is amazing how a Rolex can mittigate reality!
In a part of the world, where they rarely have the decency to repatriate the body of a sub continent worker killed on a building site, I am watching with interest reaction from the Arab world.
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: As hot as hell, but lots more fun
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Millerscourt,
You wouldn't be referring to the same Taliban that the Americans supplied with Stingers (amongst other things) during the Eighties - the same group that made frequent visits to Texas to discuss oil pipelines in the Nineties, would you?
I'm willing to bet that the UAE's total contribution towards the relief effort will be greater than that of many so-called developed countries - not bad for a country barely 3 million strong.
You wouldn't be referring to the same Taliban that the Americans supplied with Stingers (amongst other things) during the Eighties - the same group that made frequent visits to Texas to discuss oil pipelines in the Nineties, would you?
I'm willing to bet that the UAE's total contribution towards the relief effort will be greater than that of many so-called developed countries - not bad for a country barely 3 million strong.
Registered User **
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: poll position
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
g shock actually for work and exercise and a timberland for going out and as expalined on another thread, the most fun can be had in the ME forum, thanks to the vociferous nature of both pro and anti factions at ek. Less pompous than uk based threads and much more vitriol.
Ask around about the Rolex, it'll become clearer.
Ask around about the Rolex, it'll become clearer.
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: As hot as hell, but lots more fun
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Dicksy,
Gave you an opportunity to rescind on the Rolex gag but I should've known better: of course you own a G-Shock - you would need a timepiece that could withstand all that rigorous wrist action during exercise...
On a more serious note - perhaps you could confine yourself to the basic parameters of the thread, i.e. it's the alleged hypocrisy in the UAE that you should be concerned about. Out of the gutter, my boy.
Gave you an opportunity to rescind on the Rolex gag but I should've known better: of course you own a G-Shock - you would need a timepiece that could withstand all that rigorous wrist action during exercise...
On a more serious note - perhaps you could confine yourself to the basic parameters of the thread, i.e. it's the alleged hypocrisy in the UAE that you should be concerned about. Out of the gutter, my boy.
Registered User **
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: poll position
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
OK point taken. I think they are a tight fisted bunch of hipocritical feudal mysoginist(gold rolex aside) assholes.
Is that more on message?
Is that more on message?
Last edited by dicksynormous; 6th Jan 2005 at 00:11.
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 846
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
dumpvalve
The Taliban did not come onto existence as a entity until 1994 and ruled most of Afganistan from 1996/2001. The Soviet occupation was between 1979/1989 during which time the US foolishly supplied Stingers etc etc to groups of Mujahideen NOT to the Taliban as you infer. They should not have interfered as they got no thanks for it and directly caused the Taliban to come into existence and allow Osama a base for his dirty tricks department to get going.
The only countries that recognised the Taliban were Pakistan,Saudia Arabia and the UAE, the latter two bankrolling these foul people where you as a Woman would not have been able to wear your Rolex that bigdicksy mentions.
The Taliban did not come onto existence as a entity until 1994 and ruled most of Afganistan from 1996/2001. The Soviet occupation was between 1979/1989 during which time the US foolishly supplied Stingers etc etc to groups of Mujahideen NOT to the Taliban as you infer. They should not have interfered as they got no thanks for it and directly caused the Taliban to come into existence and allow Osama a base for his dirty tricks department to get going.
The only countries that recognised the Taliban were Pakistan,Saudia Arabia and the UAE, the latter two bankrolling these foul people where you as a Woman would not have been able to wear your Rolex that bigdicksy mentions.
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: As hot as hell, but lots more fun
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Millerscourt (AKA Dicksy's Little Helper),
Two things you need to concentrate on: semantics and facts. First of all, the difference between the Taliban and the Mujahideen that created them please. Just a different word, is all. Also, you conveniently overlook the FACT that they came to the US as the Taliban (no confusion there) in the Nineties as I previously stated. They might not have recognized them as a state but they sure were willing to do business with them. Care to comment on that?
You have also accepted as fact that I own a Rolex as insinuated by your buddy. No basis at all.
Two things you need to concentrate on: semantics and facts. First of all, the difference between the Taliban and the Mujahideen that created them please. Just a different word, is all. Also, you conveniently overlook the FACT that they came to the US as the Taliban (no confusion there) in the Nineties as I previously stated. They might not have recognized them as a state but they sure were willing to do business with them. Care to comment on that?
You have also accepted as fact that I own a Rolex as insinuated by your buddy. No basis at all.
Registered User **
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: poll position
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
OO someones been watching farenheit 9/11 . i hope the subcontinent domestic didnt hoover too loudly while it was on . noisy enough to drive you to the mall sometimes.
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: As hot as hell, but lots more fun
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Dicksy,
It was quite well documented at the time, actually. You might've been too young to remember/read. Now that we're talking about movies though, why did you choose a girl's name?
P.S. What kind of movement does that Timberland of yours have- Swiss or Gore-Tex?
It was quite well documented at the time, actually. You might've been too young to remember/read. Now that we're talking about movies though, why did you choose a girl's name?
P.S. What kind of movement does that Timberland of yours have- Swiss or Gore-Tex?
Registered User **
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: poll position
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Swiss.
I chose the name due to the cinematic influence at the time and the irony . You are the first person to twig it was a girl name.Usually i get people actually believing its a midlife crisis thing, but you can set your watch by the inability of many people in this industry to be so far up their asses to notice such subtleties.
Lets be friends and i wont mention the rolex again
I chose the name due to the cinematic influence at the time and the irony . You are the first person to twig it was a girl name.Usually i get people actually believing its a midlife crisis thing, but you can set your watch by the inability of many people in this industry to be so far up their asses to notice such subtleties.
Lets be friends and i wont mention the rolex again