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Popay,
You must be a desperate chap realy hungry since your unemployment from your previous company. When you grow up and hit the real world you might mature and realize the thruth about airline flying. In the mean time enjoy your new found great airline job and keep passing on the great optimism to the others around you... Hey if you suck up enough (and not too many brown spots on your face) you might even become the new VPFO and boy want that be great!!!
Happy Holidays
You must be a desperate chap realy hungry since your unemployment from your previous company. When you grow up and hit the real world you might mature and realize the thruth about airline flying. In the mean time enjoy your new found great airline job and keep passing on the great optimism to the others around you... Hey if you suck up enough (and not too many brown spots on your face) you might even become the new VPFO and boy want that be great!!!
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Popay,
You must be a desperate chap realy hungry since your unemployment from your previous company.
--------Well grey daddy, I have to disappoint you I haven’t been unemployed despite the bankruptcy of my previous airline and I am not desperate to work. I would rather spend my time with my family, but flying, but I have to be consequent. Nothing is for free and I have to work hard for my money. I wish the others would be the same. That’s my attitude.
When you grow up and hit the real world you might mature and realize the thruth about airline flying.
-------Thanks for the advice, but I have been in the airline business for more then 10 years now and not only as a pilot. I think almost 6000 BH Jet on the airliner is mature enough to create my own opinion.
In the mean time enjoy your new found great airline job and keep passing on the great optimism to the others around you... Hey if you suck up enough (and not too many brown spots on your face) you might even become the new VPFO and boy want that be great!!!
-------I hope not.
Happy Holidays
You must be a desperate chap realy hungry since your unemployment from your previous company.
--------Well grey daddy, I have to disappoint you I haven’t been unemployed despite the bankruptcy of my previous airline and I am not desperate to work. I would rather spend my time with my family, but flying, but I have to be consequent. Nothing is for free and I have to work hard for my money. I wish the others would be the same. That’s my attitude.
When you grow up and hit the real world you might mature and realize the thruth about airline flying.
-------Thanks for the advice, but I have been in the airline business for more then 10 years now and not only as a pilot. I think almost 6000 BH Jet on the airliner is mature enough to create my own opinion.
In the mean time enjoy your new found great airline job and keep passing on the great optimism to the others around you... Hey if you suck up enough (and not too many brown spots on your face) you might even become the new VPFO and boy want that be great!!!
-------I hope not.
Happy Holidays
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That’s exactly what I am talking about, homesick ray. Although you are permanently hanging in that forum you are avoiding telling your story to everybody. You didn’t face us with facts.
It looks to like another bla bla……
Sorry body but that's a fact.
It looks to like another bla bla……
Sorry body but that's a fact.
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Popay,
My story has been told in all it's glory many moons ago on here.
Try the search button.
And what are you having a go at me for in response to the last post which was from someone else!! LOL!
This is not the place to name names, but there is a cast of many who have been in the same boat.
The thread is about QR Limits and I have merely told of an incident whereupon the crew operated illegally, the operating captain did not stand up for us (he is still with QR) and we were told it was "special dispensation from DCAM"
I have mentioned my continued dissatisfaction about QR's management tactics and will continue to do so.
If the "search" button does not help you then ask around at QR and take your pick, you never know you might come up with the right person!
Now can we get back on track with the thread?
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HR
ya ne ponimayoo po rooski!
My story has been told in all it's glory many moons ago on here.
Try the search button.
And what are you having a go at me for in response to the last post which was from someone else!! LOL!
This is not the place to name names, but there is a cast of many who have been in the same boat.
The thread is about QR Limits and I have merely told of an incident whereupon the crew operated illegally, the operating captain did not stand up for us (he is still with QR) and we were told it was "special dispensation from DCAM"
I have mentioned my continued dissatisfaction about QR's management tactics and will continue to do so.
If the "search" button does not help you then ask around at QR and take your pick, you never know you might come up with the right person!
Now can we get back on track with the thread?
Cheers
HR
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Popay, Viktor or whoever you are,
Let me stop you in your tracks RIGHT NOW before you continue to make a fool of yourself.................
You have had a little bit to much Kool-aid to drink and it is time for you to get off the soap box and stop with all the Horaay Horaay Qatar Airways talk Son, you will not get a position in Training, management, or be a senior 3 stripe f/o any sooner by spoutting off like that. Also you are not going to get any more coffee from the cabin crew if you keep it up.!!!!!... ( I just hope they don't mix up your coffee with mine??. Actually I am a Tea drinker.
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Son you have a very long way to go in aviation ( not sure how old you are) but 10 years is only just starting. I think I have probally forgotten and changed my point of view on more than you have ever even learnt in this field of Aviation.
You see son I have seen, smelt,tasted,felt and heard all this before. Please don't come into Qatar Airways and flex those muscles of yours and make yourself an idiot my friend. We have seen your picture on your web site and it is clear that a strong breeze will blow you over.
Also, Please don't keep Quoting over and over again what people say, you are making the reading long for all of us and we are not little kids that need you to keep remining us what someone said in the post just prior to your ignorant answer.
To sum it all up in some words, you seem to be a keen "LITTLE BOY" who is wet behind the ears in a new company and is making all kinds of "BIG BOLD" remarks about things you have not even experienced as yet.
Good luck in your career son, you are off to a good start.
HM
Let me stop you in your tracks RIGHT NOW before you continue to make a fool of yourself.................
You have had a little bit to much Kool-aid to drink and it is time for you to get off the soap box and stop with all the Horaay Horaay Qatar Airways talk Son, you will not get a position in Training, management, or be a senior 3 stripe f/o any sooner by spoutting off like that. Also you are not going to get any more coffee from the cabin crew if you keep it up.!!!!!... ( I just hope they don't mix up your coffee with mine??. Actually I am a Tea drinker.
)Son you have a very long way to go in aviation ( not sure how old you are) but 10 years is only just starting. I think I have probally forgotten and changed my point of view on more than you have ever even learnt in this field of Aviation.
You see son I have seen, smelt,tasted,felt and heard all this before. Please don't come into Qatar Airways and flex those muscles of yours and make yourself an idiot my friend. We have seen your picture on your web site and it is clear that a strong breeze will blow you over.
Also, Please don't keep Quoting over and over again what people say, you are making the reading long for all of us and we are not little kids that need you to keep remining us what someone said in the post just prior to your ignorant answer.
To sum it all up in some words, you seem to be a keen "LITTLE BOY" who is wet behind the ears in a new company and is making all kinds of "BIG BOLD" remarks about things you have not even experienced as yet.
Good luck in your career son, you are off to a good start.
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Once again Hajj Man comes in to effectively put paid to this 'popay idiocy'.
Popay decided to hijack this thread for his own self-aggrandisement and even try to tell us and management who he is. (I, for one, do not want to know who is whom on this Forum. If it was intended that way, we would all be using our own names.)
This airline DOES change the rules to suit itself. It DOES change sign on/sign off times in order to make the cabin crew work against their wishes and against the rules. The cabin crew cannot argue. If they do, their life becomes cr@p, at worst.
Additionally, the fact that QR operate to the LIMITS of the FTL's means that there will always be pressure on crew to give that extra little bit, that, under other authorities, would result in the loss of a crew licence or an AOC.
QR's argument is that it is short of crew. Well, their are several ways around this but the PD seems reluctant to implement them.
One of which would be to treat employees like members of the human race and not as slave labour. For example, the word is that some 20 of the recent batch of Australian cabin crew recruited recently, resigned almost as soon as they got here. The snake's comments on this? "They must have recruited the wrong type of person."
From what I know of Australians, recruit ANY of them and then tell them 'do this, do that, or you're fired', they'd tell you where to get off!
The PD is so proud that we are the fastest expanding airline in the world that he has lost track of where we are with crewing, engineering, parking spots, lack of terminal capacity, etc. He is used to being told that he can do anything by the syncophantic staff who might have been ok for a small outfit, but have no idea where they are in a REAL airline.
QR could be great. And I would love to be here to see it. However, people like our friend popeye, who thinks he's helping by sucking, are much more counter-productive than those who are prepared to speak out to change things and help make this airline a real airline.
Happy New Year to ALL.
Popay decided to hijack this thread for his own self-aggrandisement and even try to tell us and management who he is. (I, for one, do not want to know who is whom on this Forum. If it was intended that way, we would all be using our own names.)
This airline DOES change the rules to suit itself. It DOES change sign on/sign off times in order to make the cabin crew work against their wishes and against the rules. The cabin crew cannot argue. If they do, their life becomes cr@p, at worst.
Additionally, the fact that QR operate to the LIMITS of the FTL's means that there will always be pressure on crew to give that extra little bit, that, under other authorities, would result in the loss of a crew licence or an AOC.
QR's argument is that it is short of crew. Well, their are several ways around this but the PD seems reluctant to implement them.
One of which would be to treat employees like members of the human race and not as slave labour. For example, the word is that some 20 of the recent batch of Australian cabin crew recruited recently, resigned almost as soon as they got here. The snake's comments on this? "They must have recruited the wrong type of person."
From what I know of Australians, recruit ANY of them and then tell them 'do this, do that, or you're fired', they'd tell you where to get off!
The PD is so proud that we are the fastest expanding airline in the world that he has lost track of where we are with crewing, engineering, parking spots, lack of terminal capacity, etc. He is used to being told that he can do anything by the syncophantic staff who might have been ok for a small outfit, but have no idea where they are in a REAL airline.
QR could be great. And I would love to be here to see it. However, people like our friend popeye, who thinks he's helping by sucking, are much more counter-productive than those who are prepared to speak out to change things and help make this airline a real airline.
Happy New Year to ALL.
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Hajj Man: Nice one!
Aviaco: I'm fine and still enjoying aviation, all the best to you!
Knotaloud: like Hajj Man you are spot on!
Popay: I rest my case
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The Snake's comments are so typical! Take a look into his past and you will see the true person.
Even if you prove him wrong, as I did a couple of times, he will deny it and still give you grief. The man enjoys character assassination and takes pride in destroying people's lives/ careers and ensuring he gets brown nose points for doing so.
At the end of the day he is just a puppet and his turn will come soon I am sure.
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Was at meetings in LGW very recently and the vibe around there about AAB is not good. He has already created an impression...the wrong one!
Cheers
HR
Aviaco: I'm fine and still enjoying aviation, all the best to you!
Knotaloud: like Hajj Man you are spot on!
Popay: I rest my case
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The Snake's comments are so typical! Take a look into his past and you will see the true person.
Even if you prove him wrong, as I did a couple of times, he will deny it and still give you grief. The man enjoys character assassination and takes pride in destroying people's lives/ careers and ensuring he gets brown nose points for doing so.
At the end of the day he is just a puppet and his turn will come soon I am sure.
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Was at meetings in LGW very recently and the vibe around there about AAB is not good. He has already created an impression...the wrong one!
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You mean AAB created the wrong impression amongst the LGW community?
Hmmmm. There's a surprise. Won't be long before CO kick them out either. Not doing themselves any favours.
Hmmmm. There's a surprise. Won't be long before CO kick them out either. Not doing themselves any favours.
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Hajj Man, well body, I instantly hope you will be able to say all of this right in my face if you see me, cause you know me now, but I don't know you. I will respect you at least for that, otherwise just another bla... bla…big mouth daddy.
Cause, guys like you, are always talking behind some ones back smiling in to your face and xxxxxxxxxxx you behind your back. I am not after any position in here, but I am making the best out this company. And let me get it straight Daddy, what a xxxxxx are you doing here if this is all so bad?
One more thing I have to say to you, I only respect someone I am speaking to, if I know who I am speaking to. And all those useless nicknames are just to cover up your own ass, just in case. You know now who you are dealing with. I expect the same from you. That’s the only reason I have inserted my web page. That’s all.
The same is valid for knotaloud.
P.S. And now for all of you guys out there looking for the job wherever: There are a lot of idiots out there including this place, but having chance to read this topic, you had the chance to speak to someone, you could identify as currently employed by QR, with the name and position and not to some mysterious shadows, smelling it all and blowing the breeze. This is always going to be like this, no matter where you go. Do you self a favour, guys, if you want to get a real picture come and see it your self.
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Cause, guys like you, are always talking behind some ones back smiling in to your face and xxxxxxxxxxx you behind your back. I am not after any position in here, but I am making the best out this company. And let me get it straight Daddy, what a xxxxxx are you doing here if this is all so bad?
One more thing I have to say to you, I only respect someone I am speaking to, if I know who I am speaking to. And all those useless nicknames are just to cover up your own ass, just in case. You know now who you are dealing with. I expect the same from you. That’s the only reason I have inserted my web page. That’s all.
The same is valid for knotaloud.
P.S. And now for all of you guys out there looking for the job wherever: There are a lot of idiots out there including this place, but having chance to read this topic, you had the chance to speak to someone, you could identify as currently employed by QR, with the name and position and not to some mysterious shadows, smelling it all and blowing the breeze. This is always going to be like this, no matter where you go. Do you self a favour, guys, if you want to get a real picture come and see it your self.
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Whilst I truly admire your bravery in so doing, your decision to publish your private www link on this forum only serves to display your freshness and naivety when it comes to the current and past community that surrounds Qatar Airways, headed up by the great man himself.
I am sure that it will come to no surprise to you that everyone in QR Towers (from the ground floor, all the way up to the 9th) will have read your posts. Fact.
Some people will agree with you. Some will disagree. Most, however, will agree with me when I say that I feel sorry for you, that you have made a fatal blunder in publicly posting your tirade of sycophancy from your elevated soapbox. Contrary to what you may actually think, AAB and the Fleet Managers will NOT like nor appreciate your posts and your overly public comments. All that you are doing, my friend, is riling your colleagues - past and present - and those with whom you currently share the office space with at the sharp end of an Airbus.
Your enthusiasm for your job (regardless of your age and seniority) is commendable. However, your posts, which have degenerated into bitter slanging as they have progressed down the page, are doing NOTHING at all to support your case. You are only exposing yourself as juvenile.
Friendly advice - tone it down a bit. Stop upsetting others. Maintain enthusiasm for your job. And listen to the likes of Hajj Man and Homesick Rae, as they DO actually have a little bit more experience of the Oryx Ensemble than you give them credit for.
And finally - have a great New Year. Wishing you all the best!!
Whilst I truly admire your bravery in so doing, your decision to publish your private www link on this forum only serves to display your freshness and naivety when it comes to the current and past community that surrounds Qatar Airways, headed up by the great man himself.
I am sure that it will come to no surprise to you that everyone in QR Towers (from the ground floor, all the way up to the 9th) will have read your posts. Fact.
Some people will agree with you. Some will disagree. Most, however, will agree with me when I say that I feel sorry for you, that you have made a fatal blunder in publicly posting your tirade of sycophancy from your elevated soapbox. Contrary to what you may actually think, AAB and the Fleet Managers will NOT like nor appreciate your posts and your overly public comments. All that you are doing, my friend, is riling your colleagues - past and present - and those with whom you currently share the office space with at the sharp end of an Airbus.
Your enthusiasm for your job (regardless of your age and seniority) is commendable. However, your posts, which have degenerated into bitter slanging as they have progressed down the page, are doing NOTHING at all to support your case. You are only exposing yourself as juvenile.
Friendly advice - tone it down a bit. Stop upsetting others. Maintain enthusiasm for your job. And listen to the likes of Hajj Man and Homesick Rae, as they DO actually have a little bit more experience of the Oryx Ensemble than you give them credit for.
And finally - have a great New Year. Wishing you all the best!!
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AVIACO thanks for the advise. Happy new year to you too.
I don’t think they have read it in the tower, but even if they have, so what? Why are you all making such a big deal out of this? I only say what I think and what I mean. I don’t expect to take any benefit out of this. That would be naive.
Well, my post has got exactly to the level, some people only understand. I have tried to stick purely to facts, but there were no such and there will be no such. I don’t have any case and thanks, no need to support me or my “case”.
I will say it one more time, this is not about me or them or the tower or what’s or ever. This is purely about the truth. If somebody accuses the others, who ever that might be; that needs a proof, I am sure you will agree on that. I have not seen or heard any of this. All, the guys, said before might be true or not. Jesus Christ, just proof it and tell the facts. They don’t have to fear anything since they are anonymously acting, or not even with the company any more.
One thing I can’t stand is if people are spitting in the pot they are eating from.
It doesn’t matter whether the company is good or bad, you are employed by that company, so respect your self that much not to present it as an evil for the outsiders. And if you do so be a man enough to stand straight for you words. Otherwise it sounds like “I became a prostitute because they have enforced me to do this, but I like the pay check at the end of the month”.
Nobody has ever enforced anybody to come here and sacrifice them self just for an idea “How to make QR a better place”. Its apparently good enough for the guys, who are staying here for years.
All of us came here to have a secured job and get a bunch of cash by the end of the month and so on….. I don’t get the point of staying here if you just hate it. Oh let me guess why, because they need money.
If someone got upset because I didn’t follow the trend, I don’t care. You can always change something, if you want to, even if it’s done by your resignation.
I am prepared and will respect and share the cockpit with everybody, willing to do so the same way with me. I don’t have to like or not to like someone to be able to fly with, it’s my job.
And finally - have a great New Year. Wishing you all the best!!
I don’t think they have read it in the tower, but even if they have, so what? Why are you all making such a big deal out of this? I only say what I think and what I mean. I don’t expect to take any benefit out of this. That would be naive.
Well, my post has got exactly to the level, some people only understand. I have tried to stick purely to facts, but there were no such and there will be no such. I don’t have any case and thanks, no need to support me or my “case”.
I will say it one more time, this is not about me or them or the tower or what’s or ever. This is purely about the truth. If somebody accuses the others, who ever that might be; that needs a proof, I am sure you will agree on that. I have not seen or heard any of this. All, the guys, said before might be true or not. Jesus Christ, just proof it and tell the facts. They don’t have to fear anything since they are anonymously acting, or not even with the company any more.
One thing I can’t stand is if people are spitting in the pot they are eating from.
It doesn’t matter whether the company is good or bad, you are employed by that company, so respect your self that much not to present it as an evil for the outsiders. And if you do so be a man enough to stand straight for you words. Otherwise it sounds like “I became a prostitute because they have enforced me to do this, but I like the pay check at the end of the month”.
Nobody has ever enforced anybody to come here and sacrifice them self just for an idea “How to make QR a better place”. Its apparently good enough for the guys, who are staying here for years.
All of us came here to have a secured job and get a bunch of cash by the end of the month and so on….. I don’t get the point of staying here if you just hate it. Oh let me guess why, because they need money.
If someone got upset because I didn’t follow the trend, I don’t care. You can always change something, if you want to, even if it’s done by your resignation.
I am prepared and will respect and share the cockpit with everybody, willing to do so the same way with me. I don’t have to like or not to like someone to be able to fly with, it’s my job.
And finally - have a great New Year. Wishing you all the best!!
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POPAY
JUST ANOTHER ''DADDY'' HERE,DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND GET YOUR WEB SITE OFF THE AIR.YOU CANT IMAGINE THE DAMAGE IT COULD DO TOO YOU AND YOUR FUTURE BOTH HERE AND ABROAD.
PS. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION
'' DADDY KNOWS BEST''
JUST ANOTHER ''DADDY'' HERE,DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND GET YOUR WEB SITE OFF THE AIR.YOU CANT IMAGINE THE DAMAGE IT COULD DO TOO YOU AND YOUR FUTURE BOTH HERE AND ABROAD.
PS. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION
'' DADDY KNOWS BEST''
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You seem to be missing the point entirely. I can say nothing more in your defence. Sorry. But, you really should stop this. Believe me, QR Towers ARE reading this and you are DAMAGING YOUR JOB SECURITY by continuing this. QR is an airline like no other. AAB is a boss like no other. Don't be lulled into a false sense of security, as this can all change at the drop of a hat!
As stated by Goldstar, "DADDY KNOWS BEST". You ignore this at your peril.
Good luck to you Sir. All the best.
AO
You seem to be missing the point entirely. I can say nothing more in your defence. Sorry. But, you really should stop this. Believe me, QR Towers ARE reading this and you are DAMAGING YOUR JOB SECURITY by continuing this. QR is an airline like no other. AAB is a boss like no other. Don't be lulled into a false sense of security, as this can all change at the drop of a hat!
As stated by Goldstar, "DADDY KNOWS BEST". You ignore this at your peril.
Good luck to you Sir. All the best.
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Ok I will. Enough excitement for this year, see you next year. and thanks for your defence AVIACO. I hope the daddies are not going to get too much exited, is no good for the hard you know.
Despite the cold breeze, happy New Year to all of you. See you on line or in the sim. Oops, I did it again, sorry daddies. That’s going to be exiting though.
All corrected as per wish.
Despite the cold breeze, happy New Year to all of you. See you on line or in the sim. Oops, I did it again, sorry daddies. That’s going to be exiting though.
All corrected as per wish.
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Ups I did it again???? You mean "Oops", I did it again!!
Oh dear, and after all that, you've just admitted to being a Britney fan too..................................
Happy New Year.
Oh dear, and after all that, you've just admitted to being a Britney fan too..................................
Happy New Year.
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Aviaco,
Ha Ha...a case of Hit Me Daddy One More Time methinks!
When will they ever learn...perhaps the hard way?
Happy New Year to you and yours and indeed to all the hardworking QR crew!
Cheers
HR
Ha Ha...a case of Hit Me Daddy One More Time methinks!
When will they ever learn...perhaps the hard way?
Happy New Year to you and yours and indeed to all the hardworking QR crew!
Cheers
HR