Unclear AME guidance
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From: Not Aviation House
Unclear AME guidance
I can’t believe I’m having to post this on prune to get the help I need.
Im off work with four notified,e health issues.
Told my AME straight away, who was quick enough to pull the medical. Quite rightly, I assume.
Disclosure ticked and documented, all letters sent to the AME.
So, what do I do?
Repeatedly directed to the CAA website, which has every condition known to man on it, and tailored treatment and flows for each one.
i ask again, which ones to follow and am given generic direction back to the CAA website, so I reply saying I’ll just send that to my GP then? Clearly the GP is going to say can you confirm what it is you want us to do?
why, in Gods name, can’t the AME send the correct procedure and flow charts, and say ‘do this’?
Ive wasted months previously making appointments they later say they didn’t need, taking test on kit they don’t accept, and paying time and money going to hospital after hospital for the CAA to reject it, or the wrong words are used in a letter from a medic.
Last time I was off for any length of time I counted visiting about ten different hospitals across the region, for the CAA to still not be happy, until one consultant phoned them up and shouted at them. I know. I was in the room!
It’s an impossible system when your own AME won’t give you direction. Sorry AME’s but most of you are the same, in my experience. Very easy to take a medical away, and then you won’t say how to get it back.
Happens time and time again. ‘Do no harm’. How about mental health of your customers*.
Any help appreciated.
* Well you would not treat a patient like this.
Im off work with four notified,e health issues.
Told my AME straight away, who was quick enough to pull the medical. Quite rightly, I assume.
Disclosure ticked and documented, all letters sent to the AME.
So, what do I do?
Repeatedly directed to the CAA website, which has every condition known to man on it, and tailored treatment and flows for each one.
i ask again, which ones to follow and am given generic direction back to the CAA website, so I reply saying I’ll just send that to my GP then? Clearly the GP is going to say can you confirm what it is you want us to do?
why, in Gods name, can’t the AME send the correct procedure and flow charts, and say ‘do this’?
Ive wasted months previously making appointments they later say they didn’t need, taking test on kit they don’t accept, and paying time and money going to hospital after hospital for the CAA to reject it, or the wrong words are used in a letter from a medic.
Last time I was off for any length of time I counted visiting about ten different hospitals across the region, for the CAA to still not be happy, until one consultant phoned them up and shouted at them. I know. I was in the room!
It’s an impossible system when your own AME won’t give you direction. Sorry AME’s but most of you are the same, in my experience. Very easy to take a medical away, and then you won’t say how to get it back.
Happens time and time again. ‘Do no harm’. How about mental health of your customers*.
Any help appreciated.
* Well you would not treat a patient like this.
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Sorry to read your story. First and foremost change your AME. If you're not getting the response and guidance needed to restore your licence then try speaking to another one who is prepared to listen and help.
Most health conditions are listed on the CAA website with acceptable means of compliance laid out to restore a licence. In the event you cannot get the guidance you need then as a last resort consult the CAA medical department directly. In the event of restoring a Class 1 certificate they would need to be involved anyway so you might as well speak to them direct.
+44 (0) 330 022 1972 then 1 for Medical.
(0830 - 1630 Monday - Friday except public holidays)
You don't say where your based but the list of national AMEs is here:
CAA AME List
Most health conditions are listed on the CAA website with acceptable means of compliance laid out to restore a licence. In the event you cannot get the guidance you need then as a last resort consult the CAA medical department directly. In the event of restoring a Class 1 certificate they would need to be involved anyway so you might as well speak to them direct.
+44 (0) 330 022 1972 then 1 for Medical.
(0830 - 1630 Monday - Friday except public holidays)
You don't say where your based but the list of national AMEs is here:
CAA AME List
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 744
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From: Not Aviation House
Many thanks.
i have tried another AME and the response was clear “you cannot change AME when TU”.
Regarding the CAA website, you need to know which procedure to follow. That is why we ask which procedure to follow, to avoid months or years of following the wrong one. SURELY it is not too much trouble to be either told clearly which one to follow, or be given it.
when you have a serious health issue, it is common knowledge clear guidance and diagnosis is paramount in recovery.
this is frankly cruel.
AME’s only interested in £3-400 medical and not this ‘trivia’ it seems.
i have tried another AME and the response was clear “you cannot change AME when TU”.
Regarding the CAA website, you need to know which procedure to follow. That is why we ask which procedure to follow, to avoid months or years of following the wrong one. SURELY it is not too much trouble to be either told clearly which one to follow, or be given it.
when you have a serious health issue, it is common knowledge clear guidance and diagnosis is paramount in recovery.
this is frankly cruel.
AME’s only interested in £3-400 medical and not this ‘trivia’ it seems.
