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Collective Colour Vision Thread 4

Old 19th Sep 2016, 11:34
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Rontom, I took the lantern test at LHR some while ago & the Doc stopped the test due to (I think) a red / green fail. No possibility of a rerun though I recall from the brief that retests were possible under certain citcumstances.

Circumstances even!
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 20:40
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Hello Expatrick

Please see my results of the Lantern below:

Test Result
Holmes Wright Lantern (type A)

In Mesopic viewing with high brightness:
1st run: 2 errors
2nd and 3rd runs: 1 error
(Red called ‘Green’ and Green called ‘White’ twice).

In Scotopic viewing with high brightness:
1st run: 2 errors
2nd and 3rd runs: 1 error
(White called ‘Green’ and Red called ‘Green’ and Green called ‘white’).


I'm perhaps clutching at straws now, but I suppose I've got nothing to lose. Who knows, maybe it is "one error allowed" on runs 2 & 3. Or maybe if you get red and green mixed, that's it. I'm sure I'll fine out the verdict soon enough.

Thanks again for you input on the matter!
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 21:01
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Hi Rontom, regret I can't remember the details except that, yes, a red/green mix up was an instant failure!
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 02:59
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So if I pass the CAD test and eventually get awarded the unrestricted Class 1 Medical by the CAA, what happens if lets say few years later I decide to move to Germany and fly there.

Is there gonna be a problem with the conversion of my CAA Class 1 to the EASA License since the CAD test is not recognised outside the UK yet?
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Old 29th Nov 2016, 06:20
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Colour Vision requirements for FAA Class 1

Hi All,

The son of a family friend is desperate to get into commercial aviation, but as he has a history of colour blindness in the family, went for an assessment utilising the 6 relevant tests prior to attempting a CAA Class 1. He had varying results for each test i.e some much better than others.

His resulting CAD score though, confirms that he is ineligible for a Class 1 in the UK. I gather the FAA utilise the Lantern Test? Would anyone out there have knowledge of the method and required standards for colour vision for a class 1 FAA medical?

Many thanks for any guidance
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Old 8th Dec 2016, 17:15
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Hey Alteburger,

I'm not sure on the FAA Requirements. However,if I read between the lines of your post that and assume that the guy is willing to travel abroad to follow his career, Canada may be an option, particularly if he has passed some of his tests.

Feel free to email me if you have any questions about this, I have some experience which i'm happy to share.
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 04:54
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faa allow you to do a very simple test with light gun signal. very easy to pass and he will be able to get his unrestricted first class medical if he pass it.
faa is the way to go
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 04:58
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spectrolux and EASA

i would like to get a confirmation that even with EASA, as it was with JAR, if i pass the spectrolux exam, i will be free from any testing further on in my career? or is it at discretion of the medical examiner to test for Color blindness at any renewal? even if i show i passed once the spectrolux?

i guess i will be issue some sort of waiver...just wanna make sure.

thanks
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 15:33
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Hi,

Il you pass spectrolux or any other approved EASA color vision test, during renewal you will not be asked to do it again.

Color visión test is required again if clinical indications show that you will lose color perception...really rare and really serious.

I did my medical renewal all around Europe and also had FAA medical, not being asked again to perform it...i had Beyne Lantern.

Hope helps.
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 13:51
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Have anybody (color blind) here used the EnChroma glasses, and tested them on Ishihara test?
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Old 9th Feb 2017, 12:24
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Colorblindness and helicopter licenses

What are the restrictions with colorblindness and acquiring a license to fly helicopters?

Thanks.
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Old 28th Feb 2017, 18:22
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ishihara retest and versions

Hi, has anyone had experience with requesting a retest on the ishihara plates throughout Europe?

Also, would you be able to let me know where I can find the 24 version?
I understand there are more versions like the 14, 24 and 38 so I just want to narrow down my options.
Many thanks
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Old 1st Mar 2017, 18:03
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CAA Class 1 Medical and Ishahara Test

Hello Everyone,

I have my class 1 initial medical test in 2 weeks time and I tried a few Ishahara test's online and I can get about 12-14/15. I am not colour blind, never been and can see all colours perfectly fine.

I know you need to get all the 15 plates correctly in order to pass.

My question is what happens if I can't get all 15 correctly on the day?

Any advice would be most welcome.
Thanks

Last edited by vatir; 2nd Mar 2017 at 16:56.
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 21:32
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Hi team colour deficiency,

Unfortunately I'm joining your ranks as I've just completed my Initial Class 2 medical and had a "VCL" restriction slapped on me due to flopping on the Ishiharas. I was told at the time that this also restricts me to VMC only!! So with that, my dreams of one day flying (intentionally) above the clouds has been shattered.

However I've read that actually, I can still pursue a restricted instrument (day only) rating... hoping this is the case.

Does anyone have this? Instrument rating but night restricted due to colour deficiency?

Regardless, I've booked an appointment optimistically for the CAD test at Heathrow. Wish me luck.

If you fail the Ishihara test they'll put you in the situation I'm in - you'll need to then be certified as "Colour SAFE" by further examination. I had my Ishihara test done by a standard high-street opticians and failed it then. Subsequently my AME for the Class 2 then also retested me and got exactly the same result. So now I'm having a CAD test. I won't take no for an answer! - just like hitting my blue head on a green brick wall.
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 12:32
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Hi all,

I totally flunked the Ishihara plates (8 fails / 15) and my AME slapped a VCL restriction on me. She referred me to Heathrow Medical for a further CAD assessment if I wanted to pursue the issue further, but advised that only a small portion of people actually pass that.

The CAD assessment itself (the diagonally moving colour block) was hard and I felt I was guessing more than a reasonable amount to be able to pass so I was fairly resigned at that point.

However I'm very pleased to report that I'm only mildly protan deficient and able to pursue a full unrestricted class EASA 1 & 2.

So my contribution is, if you find yourself failing the Ishihara plates it is by no means the end of your story. Get a proper assessment at Heathrow Medical done and you may surprise yourself.
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 09:54
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I have a German EASA Class 1 Medical without any restrictions after passing the Lantern-Test.

I´m now interested in applying with Qatar Airways. Does anyone of you know, if they just accept my German Medical or if I need to do one again there?

Furthermore, what´s the procedure there in such a case if I need to do a new Medical there?

Thanks!
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 13:09
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Hi guys,
some countries have accept light color blind as airlines pilots ATPL. Brazil is one of this countries, in Brazil if you reconize the basic colors, you will receive your first class medical certificate.

Do you know what other countries do this ? I would like to know if in Honk Kong and Macau is this way.....
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Old 1st May 2017, 07:08
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Originally Posted by Alteburger View Post
Hi All,

The son of a family friend is desperate to get into commercial aviation, but as he has a history of colour blindness in the family, went for an assessment utilising the 6 relevant tests prior to attempting a CAA Class 1. He had varying results for each test i.e some much better than others.

His resulting CAD score though, confirms that he is ineligible for a Class 1 in the UK. I gather the FAA utilise the Lantern Test? Would anyone out there have knowledge of the method and required standards for colour vision for a class 1 FAA medical?

Many thanks for any guidance
Canada or US indeed.
There are easier exams than the lantern.
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Old 1st May 2017, 07:08
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Originally Posted by flyhigh788 View Post
I have a German EASA Class 1 Medical without any restrictions after passing the Lantern-Test.

I´m now interested in applying with Qatar Airways. Does anyone of you know, if they just accept my German Medical or if I need to do one again there?

Furthermore, what´s the procedure there in such a case if I need to do a new Medical there?

Thanks!
ishihara 38 plate version.
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Old 1st May 2017, 07:11
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Originally Posted by BillyJac View Post
Hi guys,
some countries have accept light color blind as airlines pilots ATPL. Brazil is one of this countries, in Brazil if you reconize the basic colors, you will receive your first class medical certificate.

Do you know what other countries do this ? I would like to know if in Honk Kong and Macau is this way.....
No, think hong kong might be using cad as well.
That option is awesome and only available in Brazil afaik. And I've done that exam there
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