for the medical experts out there, a Q about beer.

[helimutt]

Ok, why is it that if I drink lager. my heart seems to race more and beat harder. Even the alcohol free or low alcohol types does this so it's not the alcohol? Any other drink doesn't do this but i'm wondering if this is a common thing caused by one of the ingredients in lager?

Any ideas?
Thanks

[AMEandPPL]

only joking . . . . . ! !

For most pilots I know (including yours truly ! ) the very thought of an evening drink free of alcohol would be enough to instigate palpitations and tachycardia ! !

Seriously, don't know an easy answer to your question . . . . . sorry !

[Romeo India Xray]

In the dim and didstant past, RIX was a publican. My training managers attributed a lot of the ills of the drinking man to the chemicals injected into lager. In many cases it has preservatives, colourants and a im sure a lot of other things you wouldn't want to put in your body and that they didn't tell us on the training courses.

By comparison, cask ales are still going through the brewing process when delivered to the pub so therefore can't be injected with the same levels of crud that can go into keg lagers and bitters.

No pulse problems here, but a right royal headache the next day even after only a pint or two of lager - not so with bitter or red wine.

RIX

[Der absolute Hammer]

Perhaps you have an allergy to Saccharomyces pastorianus, which is the yeast used in lager brewing? This is not the same yeast as used for ale fermentation. It is a hybrid yeast!
After brewing, alcohol may be removed by a vaccuum process to give alcohol free beer. The original fermentation and use of yeast is not affected by such a process?

[helimutt]

ok. I'm going to carry out some experiments on lots of different types and quantities of lager and beer then and see how I feel. I'll report back.

[Der absolute Hammer]

In upstate New York you put a shot or rye whisky into the glass of beer That's an American shot, not a dribbly little English fish one. Then the old ticker stops tocking.

[gingernut]

Ok, why is it that if I drink lager. my heart seems to race more and beat harder.

Could it be reaching the parts other beers fail to reach.

In all honesty, it is likely to be the alcohol, although this doesn't explain the affect of the low alcohol stuff.

Interesting point raised though helimutt, those with alcohol related problems (speaking generally, not about you), tend to blame their afflictions on the type of drink they enjoy, rather than the alcohol contained within-I've heard it all I'm afraid,

"bitter gives me the shakes so I went on the lager,"

"I only ever kick out of the wife when I drink Stella, so I'm now on the special brew,"

"Red wine makes me rough in the morning, so I now drink vodka."

Whilst anecdotally there may be a grain of truth in these statements, generally, its the alcohol which causes the nasty effects.

Anyhow-good health ! I'm off back in hiding before that stalker finds me safe and healthy flying.

[Neo_RS14]

Yes I notice my heart beating much faster after I've been drinking the night before. I put it down to the alcohol consumption, and suggest that the reason you traced it on low/non alcohol products was due to possible expectations of an increased heart beat, due to the belief that it's more related to beer, than alcohol.

If it's true about what they put into lager though, whoa I'm sacred....I swear by Kronenbourg 1664....nothing comes close to it. But if it's full of chemicals as suggested...well, I might have to phase it out.

[Loose rivets]

I ask this in all seriousness, do you eat crisps (chips in US ) when you have your lager / beer ?

[Dop]

Drink proper beer instead!