JAA Medical 1
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JAA Medical 1
First apologies to Admin, previously I had post this in a wrong forum (professional pilot training).
I have a PPL with medical 2, and I want to make myself ATPL I would need medical 1 which I cannot get in my country due to some difficulties. So if I manage to have medical 1 issued in some other JAA country would it be possible that CAA in my country issues me a ATPL licence with medical certificate from some other JAA country ??
It means that for every their request to have medical 1 category I would show them medical 1 issued in foreign JAA country!
We are talking about initial licence.
Is that possible?
I have a PPL with medical 2, and I want to make myself ATPL I would need medical 1 which I cannot get in my country due to some difficulties. So if I manage to have medical 1 issued in some other JAA country would it be possible that CAA in my country issues me a ATPL licence with medical certificate from some other JAA country ??
It means that for every their request to have medical 1 category I would show them medical 1 issued in foreign JAA country!
We are talking about initial licence.
Is that possible?
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Sure it's possible.
If your country is a JAA member state, and you present them with a JAA Class 1 medical obtained in another JAA member state, they have to accept it. That's what your national CAA signed up for when they joined the JAA.
They can moan and complain all they like, but at the end of the day it's a 100% legitimate JAA medical, and hence valid for a JAA license. It shouldn't matter which JAA state issued it.
If your country is a JAA member state, and you present them with a JAA Class 1 medical obtained in another JAA member state, they have to accept it. That's what your national CAA signed up for when they joined the JAA.
They can moan and complain all they like, but at the end of the day it's a 100% legitimate JAA medical, and hence valid for a JAA license. It shouldn't matter which JAA state issued it.
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Be careful here: While it should always work for recurrent medicals there
are some countries (e.g. Germany) that do NOT accept initial Class I
medicals issued by another country (e.g. Switzerland) due to some
local rules.
M.
are some countries (e.g. Germany) that do NOT accept initial Class I
medicals issued by another country (e.g. Switzerland) due to some
local rules.
M.
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Yeah... I got JAA Class 1 medical from foreign country after I failed in my country because of high psychological requirements.
But guess what... now I came back to my CAA and they DO NOT want to accept another JAA Class 1 medical issued outside country because I have previously failed same medical here in my country. . .
What to do now?
But guess what... now I came back to my CAA and they DO NOT want to accept another JAA Class 1 medical issued outside country because I have previously failed same medical here in my country. . .
What to do now?
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Someone will probably correct me if I am wrong... or shoot me down but wouldn't the 'State of License' issue regulation come into play here?
If you have a medical from one member state then your training must also be done in that member state ... or have I got it wrong?
I assume you will run into difficulties as your national CAA already has you on file as 'denied' and will be al about it.
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If you have a medical from one member state then your training must also be done in that member state ... or have I got it wrong?
I assume you will run into difficulties as your national CAA already has you on file as 'denied' and will be al about it.
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As I have PPL I was thinking to make IR and ME in my country cause for that I only need class 2 medical which I have. So after that I can validate PPL licence with IR/ME into country which issued me class 1 medical and get CPL there. Isn't that possible?
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It's a crazy!!!
JAA mean that all member states are as "unique thing". If you get 1 class at Gatwick and you want to back in Germany or France to do training, the local CAA HAVE to accept 1 class by UK. If in Germany (like in Italy) make own medical with old own parameter, it their business, but have to accept who make 1 and 2 class follow JARs.
In Italy doe not accept 1 class from JAA member: you have to make a new medical.
It's like if you get USA 1 class FAA in Texas and do training in Florida, and Florida said "NO". In fact this did not logic.
However:
Where is wrote in the JAR's that you have to get flight licence in the same country where you get 1 CLASS?"
I've been search a lot of time but I does not found nothing about this prohibition.
JAA mean that all member states are as "unique thing". If you get 1 class at Gatwick and you want to back in Germany or France to do training, the local CAA HAVE to accept 1 class by UK. If in Germany (like in Italy) make own medical with old own parameter, it their business, but have to accept who make 1 and 2 class follow JARs.
In Italy doe not accept 1 class from JAA member: you have to make a new medical.
It's like if you get USA 1 class FAA in Texas and do training in Florida, and Florida said "NO". In fact this did not logic.
However:
Where is wrote in the JAR's that you have to get flight licence in the same country where you get 1 CLASS?"
I've been search a lot of time but I does not found nothing about this prohibition.
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For those of you that are saying its possible, would you kindly quote a JAA reference.
My understanding is that for the "INITIAL" issue, the licence and medical MUST be from the same country. This doesnt apply for renewals. Therefore in the case of "zooom", his native country doesnt have to accept the foreign medical.
Look for previous threads on this subject.
Mutt
My understanding is that for the "INITIAL" issue, the licence and medical MUST be from the same country. This doesnt apply for renewals. Therefore in the case of "zooom", his native country doesnt have to accept the foreign medical.
Look for previous threads on this subject.
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I'm in Latvia at the moment and was having this conversation a few minutes ago with the Head of Medical Division here. He informed me that the Latvian medical (even initial) should be valid in the UK - Doesnt really apply to me as I am doing it the other way round and converting my licence to Latvian one. The point it that the Latvians will also freely acknowledge the full certification of a UK medical from any UK AME
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JAR–FCL 3.065 State of licence issue
(a) An applicant shall demonstrate the
satisfactory completion of all requirements for
licence issue to the Authority of the ‘State of
licence issue’ (see JAR–FCL 3.010(c)).
(b) In circumstances agreed by both
Authorities, an applicant who has commenced
training under the responsibility of one Authority
may be permitted to complete the requirements
under the responsibility of the other Authority.
The agreement shall allow for :
(1) theoretical knowledge training and
examinations;
(2) medical examination and assessment;
(3) flight training and testing,
The Authorities shall agree on the ‘State of
licence issue’
Mutt
(a) An applicant shall demonstrate the
satisfactory completion of all requirements for
licence issue to the Authority of the ‘State of
licence issue’ (see JAR–FCL 3.010(c)).
(b) In circumstances agreed by both
Authorities, an applicant who has commenced
training under the responsibility of one Authority
may be permitted to complete the requirements
under the responsibility of the other Authority.
The agreement shall allow for :
(1) theoretical knowledge training and
examinations;
(2) medical examination and assessment;
(3) flight training and testing,
The Authorities shall agree on the ‘State of
licence issue’
Mutt
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can I ask?
I would like to know those states that offer JAA class1 medical check.
Actually I would like to know If I can get it done in Bahrain or South Korea.
I was trying to find those places but I couldnt. Please help!
thank you
Actually I would like to know If I can get it done in Bahrain or South Korea.
I was trying to find those places but I couldnt. Please help!
thank you