VISION THREAD (other than colour vision)
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Just to confirm getting a Class 1 in another ICAO country WILL NOT enable you get an EASA Class 1 unless you have a lot of flying experience gained over years in which case they might be able to make an exception.
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I will have a FAA CPL, and many say me I should have no problems with the 1^ class JAA if I am a FAA CPL holder.
One of my friend is gone in USA to do his flight training because he has a problem like the mine: ipermetrophy +4 = no chanches in Europe, but a CAA doctor (I don't know wich from wich country) told him to go in the USA.
I hope it is the truth for him and for me.
One of my friend is gone in USA to do his flight training because he has a problem like the mine: ipermetrophy +4 = no chanches in Europe, but a CAA doctor (I don't know wich from wich country) told him to go in the USA.
I hope it is the truth for him and for me.
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I think I've got my JAA Class II
Further to my issues I had with a left eye astigmatism outside the initial limit at 3.5 dioptres.
Well I received a letter from the CAA asking for me to have a corneal topography to exclude keratoconus from my eyes. If the result was negative for keratoconus they would issue the medical under a deviation until I obtained the PPL. I had the exam last week and all was well so thanks to the CAA for being quite understanding and allowing me to hold a class II.
Just thought some one may benefit from my experience so good luck everyone!
Regards, Dan. (I'm off to go solo now ;-)
Well I received a letter from the CAA asking for me to have a corneal topography to exclude keratoconus from my eyes. If the result was negative for keratoconus they would issue the medical under a deviation until I obtained the PPL. I had the exam last week and all was well so thanks to the CAA for being quite understanding and allowing me to hold a class II.
Just thought some one may benefit from my experience so good luck everyone!
Regards, Dan. (I'm off to go solo now ;-)
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FAA CPL route will only work if you gain much experience with that license, maybe 1000 - 2000 hours, and again EASA will maybe change much of it.
CAA are more flexible on class 2 than class 1.
If anything you must get it in writing first from the CAA, otherwise assume nothing.
FAA CPL will not give you class 1 medical, if you only have few hundred hours, that I am 100% sure of.
But there are alternatives, so study a way to make those work, and you might be fine in the long run, but the roads will not be easy, good luck.
CAA are more flexible on class 2 than class 1.
If anything you must get it in writing first from the CAA, otherwise assume nothing.
FAA CPL will not give you class 1 medical, if you only have few hundred hours, that I am 100% sure of.
But there are alternatives, so study a way to make those work, and you might be fine in the long run, but the roads will not be easy, good luck.
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I could probably stay in Texas for a while flying as a CFI-CFII-MEI. This will allow me to grow up professionaly and gain many hours.
If this could help me, good...
If this could help me, good...
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Let's get ts thread back on track. It's about vision issues as they relate to pilots and flying, not about green cards and eligibility to work in the US. Please start another thread in an appropriate forum if you wish to debate that.
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Below limits Astigmatism for Class 1 (UK)
Hi all,
Am curious to see if anyone has managed to gain or attain a Class 1 medical here in the UK with one eye below specified limits by the CAA? This is something I had when i was younger and has obviously affected my sight. I'm looking into laser surgery, which can correct (but not guarenteed). But I feel my dream of commercial flying is slipping away.
Thoughts very much welcomed.
Thanks
Am curious to see if anyone has managed to gain or attain a Class 1 medical here in the UK with one eye below specified limits by the CAA? This is something I had when i was younger and has obviously affected my sight. I'm looking into laser surgery, which can correct (but not guarenteed). But I feel my dream of commercial flying is slipping away.
Thoughts very much welcomed.
Thanks
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As far as I'm aware Laser surgery is a no-no from the point of view of the CAA.
There is another option, look into getting a class 1 from another country that doesn't have such an issue with eye sight. Then when you get a class 1 from the CAA, then it's to renewal standards rather than initial and if I remember correctly these are a bit more generous.
However, the CAA might be a bit more flexible depending on how far you are from the standard.
Good luck!
edit to add: Why the hell does this site automatically stick @ into laser?
There is another option, look into getting a class 1 from another country that doesn't have such an issue with eye sight. Then when you get a class 1 from the CAA, then it's to renewal standards rather than initial and if I remember correctly these are a bit more generous.
However, the CAA might be a bit more flexible depending on how far you are from the standard.
Good luck!
edit to add: Why the hell does this site automatically stick @ into laser?
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Hey all just a quick question i thought i better throw out.
Im living in australia and have a class 1 med but im also colourblind. i passed the "latern test" but im concerned that i may have fluked it because i have no hope on the ishaira(?) test which i failed, luckily the ishaira test doesnt count apparently. Just thought i'd ask, how often does a pilot have colourblind testing?
If you pass does that mean it wont happen again because theres nothing on my licence or medical that mentions it. Also are you tested as part of a flight screening? My father has been working for the same airline for 20 years and he has no idea about any overseas limitations.
Also im apparently eligible for a irish passport and was planning on heading over looking for a job after i finish my training, is this avenue now closed because of my colour vision? ive never had any "real world" issues with it when im flying.
any advice is very appreciated!
Im living in australia and have a class 1 med but im also colourblind. i passed the "latern test" but im concerned that i may have fluked it because i have no hope on the ishaira(?) test which i failed, luckily the ishaira test doesnt count apparently. Just thought i'd ask, how often does a pilot have colourblind testing?
If you pass does that mean it wont happen again because theres nothing on my licence or medical that mentions it. Also are you tested as part of a flight screening? My father has been working for the same airline for 20 years and he has no idea about any overseas limitations.
Also im apparently eligible for a irish passport and was planning on heading over looking for a job after i finish my training, is this avenue now closed because of my colour vision? ive never had any "real world" issues with it when im flying.
any advice is very appreciated!
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Eye surgery
I have searched this thread for people who have been in the same situation but I didn't manage to find anyone. So, I just wondered if anyone has undergone wavefront lasik surgery and where they had the surgery done. I am slightly short sighted but means I need glasses or contacts for everyday tasks like driving, TV, work etc and after 10 years I have kind of had enough of them.
I have recently completed my frozen ATPL so I have had a class 1 medical for a number of years although I am not employed as a pilot just yet, I just work at the airport. I figure now would be the best time to get the surgery done as the CAA insist you cant fly for a minimum of 3 months after lasik surgery so if I was to be in an airline job I would have to take time out which wouldn't be feasible with most employers. I just wondered if it would be best to get my medical done (as it expires in November) then have the surgery or get the surgery done, wait 3 months and then get my medical. Any factual advise rather than speculation from anyone who had been in the same situation would be great.
Thanks
I have recently completed my frozen ATPL so I have had a class 1 medical for a number of years although I am not employed as a pilot just yet, I just work at the airport. I figure now would be the best time to get the surgery done as the CAA insist you cant fly for a minimum of 3 months after lasik surgery so if I was to be in an airline job I would have to take time out which wouldn't be feasible with most employers. I just wondered if it would be best to get my medical done (as it expires in November) then have the surgery or get the surgery done, wait 3 months and then get my medical. Any factual advise rather than speculation from anyone who had been in the same situation would be great.
Thanks
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Class1 Medicals-eyesight
Can anyone help me please?
My eyesight is marginally outside the limit for an Initial Class 1 certificate in one respect only, namely that the amount of correction in each eye differs by 3 diops, the limit is 2. In all other respects my vision is within limits. I have heard stuff about getting an FAA CPL and then using that to crowbar a Class 1 Medical out of Gatwick (my eyesight being good enough to get an FAA Commercial Medical ). Clearly that's not ideal from a time and cost perspective. All thoughts gratefully received.
My eyesight is marginally outside the limit for an Initial Class 1 certificate in one respect only, namely that the amount of correction in each eye differs by 3 diops, the limit is 2. In all other respects my vision is within limits. I have heard stuff about getting an FAA CPL and then using that to crowbar a Class 1 Medical out of Gatwick (my eyesight being good enough to get an FAA Commercial Medical ). Clearly that's not ideal from a time and cost perspective. All thoughts gratefully received.
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Eyesight after Taking JAR Class 1 Initial Exam
Greetings all,
I am currently 20 years old, at university, and planning on taking flight training in a few years time, my only concern with flying so far has been my eyesight, I am unfortunately very short sighted.
I took my initial JAR Class 1 around 2 years ago, and have not renewed it since (this is because I believe there is a 5 year renewal period, and there is no point in keeping it current if I am at university). I passed, however my eyesight at the time was around -4.00, the limit, as I'm sure many of you know is -6.00. Since then my eyesight has deteriorated further, I am currently -5.50, in other words, worryingly close to the limit. This is why I'm glad I took the initial a couple of years ago. My optician tells me that my eyesight shouldn't get much worse now that I am 20 years old, as my eyes will stop changing. However there is the possibility it could go below -6.00.
My query is can I drop below -6.00 and still be eligible for a renewal, and if so, how far below can I go? I have contacted the CAA and have yet to receive a reply, which is why i'm posting here. I have heard off various sources (some more reliable than others) that you can drop to -8.00 and they will still let you fly, I have also heard off my local CAA optician that once you take the initial exam, they are not concerned how much more short sighted your eyesight gets provided its still correctable, and it is dealt with on a case by case basis.
I hope you can all understand why this is concerning me, as I do not want to fork out the money for flying training only to be told one day that my eyesight is no longer up to scratch.
Sorry for the essay!
Cheers,
Matt
I am currently 20 years old, at university, and planning on taking flight training in a few years time, my only concern with flying so far has been my eyesight, I am unfortunately very short sighted.
I took my initial JAR Class 1 around 2 years ago, and have not renewed it since (this is because I believe there is a 5 year renewal period, and there is no point in keeping it current if I am at university). I passed, however my eyesight at the time was around -4.00, the limit, as I'm sure many of you know is -6.00. Since then my eyesight has deteriorated further, I am currently -5.50, in other words, worryingly close to the limit. This is why I'm glad I took the initial a couple of years ago. My optician tells me that my eyesight shouldn't get much worse now that I am 20 years old, as my eyes will stop changing. However there is the possibility it could go below -6.00.
My query is can I drop below -6.00 and still be eligible for a renewal, and if so, how far below can I go? I have contacted the CAA and have yet to receive a reply, which is why i'm posting here. I have heard off various sources (some more reliable than others) that you can drop to -8.00 and they will still let you fly, I have also heard off my local CAA optician that once you take the initial exam, they are not concerned how much more short sighted your eyesight gets provided its still correctable, and it is dealt with on a case by case basis.
I hope you can all understand why this is concerning me, as I do not want to fork out the money for flying training only to be told one day that my eyesight is no longer up to scratch.
Sorry for the essay!
Cheers,
Matt
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Need help
Hello everyone
I'm looking forward to become a pilot in commercial aviation, and the only problem that i have is my left eye 0.4(astigmatism). I was thinking to make a laser corrective surgery, but I'm not quite sure that the medical commission will accept me with the surgery.
I'm looking forward to become a pilot in commercial aviation, and the only problem that i have is my left eye 0.4(astigmatism). I was thinking to make a laser corrective surgery, but I'm not quite sure that the medical commission will accept me with the surgery.
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Hi matt1627,
As far as I know, the refractive error limit doesn't apply to renewal/re-validation and I think you will be fine getting your class 1 medical. However, you still need to contact the CAA to get the official answer to your question.
Good luck.
As far as I know, the refractive error limit doesn't apply to renewal/re-validation and I think you will be fine getting your class 1 medical. However, you still need to contact the CAA to get the official answer to your question.
Good luck.