DaveO'Leary

Better link on this subject, try here........

http://colorvisiontesting.com/

Rick_M

I actually answered some of these questions. I've still haven't self-tested for SODA( but will soon) or answered all these questions, so I wouldn't mind having someone drop that info in this thread or email me.
Answers I received are from an FAA link:
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/e...a/2_027_00.pdf
Page seven says two locations. One at 1000 ft and the other at 1500 ft.
They seem to imply that you'll take the test at twilight or atleast you should. If you fail your inital test, you will have limitations. Read page seven.
Don't know yet...I'm sure it would do something.
Page seven seems to imply that there will be five second intervals of a steady light (over a 3 minute period); although I think I'll question the FAA via email on it's exact structure.
http://faa.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/faa....nduser/ask.php
I've heard assertions that it's similiar by one source, but I've yet to confirm that with many sources.
I might do this.
[email protected]
Hopefully this helps those whom are searching for this info. It seems not to be readily available (at first), and it took me sometime to find all the info I've put in this whole thread. Yet I'm eager to get marketable commercial status
for the heli industry. Hopefully it helps you.

Kaolin

Dear friends,
I'm 26 and found out I'm color blind yesterday by taking the ishiara test ina an ophtalmologist (I think i can perfectly see the diferent collors). The problem is that my biggest dream is to become an airline pilot and I'm going to do my class 1 exams next friday. I was told that I would have to do the Beyne Lantern exam.
Could someone help me understanding my problem and tell me more aboute the tests and if doing it here in Portugal can i repeat it in other part of the World to reach my goal.

Thank You

LH_Pilot

Hi,

if you fail the Beynes-Test in Portugal, you can go to Germany Cologne, redo this test, and/or to London Gatwick and take the Beynes and Holmes Wright lantern test and/or go to Zurich take the spectrolux (I hope I spelled it wright) and/or to Amsterdam an take the Holmes Wright Test.
I failed (after the anomaloscope and Ishihara) in Cologne and London and I passed in Amsterdam. I failed the Holmes Wright in London by just one mistake, due to the fact that I was way to nervous. I was quite nervous in Amsterdam too, but I passed there.


Good luck with you Medical.

LH_Pilot

Kaolin

LH_Pilot Thanks for your answer.
I'm thinking in going to Lisbon by plane in the morning of the test, do you think that the nerves will influenciate the results.

Could somebody tell-me a bit more about this Beyne Lantern Test.

DaveO'Leary

Have a look at this link..................scroll up for start

http://www.defence.gov.au/dpe/dhs/in...mentId-1091449

AlphaWhiskyRomeo

Anyone know of a really good place to research colour-blindness and to what extent a PPL/ATPL can be obtained?

And in the UK, are there local/regional medical experts who can test for this condition, or is it a case of having to visit the CAA at Gatwick?

Thanks in advance.

Blinkz

just look a little bit down the page and look here http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=129882 for all the info you could ever need.

Kaolin

Could anyone give me some hints or tricks about what should i do in the beyne lantern test.
The last days I'v been testing myself and I'm confident.
Friday is going to be the day!!!

alberto86

hello everybody,

Yesterday I was in Rome at the main AMC in Italy to receive a Nagel anomaloscope test.
The optometrist, instead, had a Rayleigh color matching test on me,
the diagnosis was:
- Deuteranomalous tichromat
- Anomalous quitient= 0.92

The italian AMC's never issue a first class medical if the anomalous quotiend exceeds 3.

I also had a Neitz anomaloscope test one month ago and the outcome was: Normal tichromat: I sent the report to the Uk CAA in order to unrestrict my JAA class 1 but it got refused.

anyway, a friend of mine had Rayleigh color matching testi as well, in 2002, and sent it to the UK CAA when he had the same problem I'm having now.
His 1st class medical got immediately unrstricted!

I know that JAR's allow Nagel anomaloscope or similar tests.

Can anybody tell me whether to send my last report to the CAA,and if a 0,92 anomalous quotient will be low anough to unrestrict my class 1?

thank you in advance!!!


PM if you have any useful infos!!!! please!!!

AlphaWhiskyRomeo

I have read this thread, and it is pretty useful thanks.

What I want to know is in the UK, are there GPs or opticians locally available who can give sound advice on colour blindness, rather than paying and travelling to the CAA for a full on medical?

I very much doubt my GP could give me decent advice, but I might be wrong.


Thanks in advance.

Blinkz

GPs won't have any. You can go to the CAA at Gatwick and just do the colourvision tests, this costs around £30. Apart from that the only places i know with the same lanterns is City University in london and Glasgow Caladonian University.

AlphaWhiskyRomeo

Appreciated. £30 plus costs to get to LGW, of course.

I have just emailed a GP local to me who renews class 1s for some further advice, so hopefully he can help me as well.

Thanks again.

Kaolin

Hi People!

Wish me luck, tomorow is going to be the firs day of the rest of my life!

It is not some Lantern who is going to keep me away from my DREAM.

alberto86

Hello,

I've booked an appointment with a swiss ophtalomologist to have a spectrolux test.

Is there anybody who already did it, who can eventuallt tell me what it's really like; or simply explain me how it works and what should I expect from it?

by the way: Is it as difficult as the Holmes-Wright lantern test?

Thank you in advance!

PM me if you preffer!

aswind

Hi mates, I need an info...
it might seem a stupid question (and maybe it is ) but ... are lantern tests undertaken with glasses (if someone need them... )?

thanks!

Bendoverstewardess

Just thought I'd let you know my situation - as a possible motivation to some of you who have had the same situation as me:

A couple of years ago my dream of being an RAF pilot was shattered up in Cranwell by the doctors telling me I was 'colour defective'. This was obviously news to me!

After a couple of years I decided that a very close second to being an RAF Pilot would be to be a commercial pilot. I also heard that they were less stringent on the colour test. A month ago (Jan.06) I went for the Class 1 at Gatwick - only to get a few plates wrong on the Ishihara - fail!

Gutted - I decided to at least become a PPL - so went to Florida to train. Whist over there - had a Class 1 medical done - passed the Ishihara no problem! They said I was medically fit to fly airliners/jet fighters/anything!
The ishihara is the same book over there - but somehow its much easier to see the numbers! Don't know if its the light or what. I had a little trouble with one or two - but the doctor said things like 'are you sure you can't see a 2' - very helpful - not like Gatwick. They told me that you are allowed a couple of mistakes anyway. Why can't the CAA be like that!

Oh well - now thats finally sorted - just need to get myself a Green Card!

I'm also wondering if the Ishihara test in the other JAA countries is easy or difficult (as I would prefer to be a pilot in Europe). I know one thing - they are not all the same!

oligoe

hello Bendoverstewardess,

In some country like in France, Ishihara test is even more difficult because they use the 34 pages edition. If you fail, you have to ask to retake the test. There you do the lantern test and a lot of different color vision tests, the whole thing takes a half a day.
In Gatwick they use the ishihara 24 pages edition, witch you can buy at amazon book store. It makes the test much easyer. If you fail, you just have to do the lantern test.
Same happened to me by the FAA doctor, I had the impression the Ishihara was more easy.
Good luck,

og

alberto86

Hello,

is there anybody who could tell me what's the real difference between a holmes-wright lantern test and a spectrolux? Which one is harder? I've failed H/W in Gatwick, that's why I'm asking...

I'm going to have the Spectrolux in Switzerland next week and I'd like to know what to expect..
Feel free to PM me, I'd be really grateful.

FAA fit / JAR unfit

Hi..
For all of you new colour vision deffectives posting new questions regarding lanterns, Ishihara´s and all CVD stuff, testing at different places, FAA, JAA, etc.. I suggest you to read carefully the Colour Vision Thread that you are inn from the very begining.
To tell you the truth, it helped me a lot to get into the right path!!
And my story (also posted) is not very different from most of you.
You might probably find somebody´s experience very helpful. There are a lot of posts and stories in this thread, many pages, very interesting!!.
I have to thank many people for posting their experiences here.
Good luck to all of you.. by the way, I´m on track with my class I after fighting for many years!!