Blinkz

egbb_2004,

no I haven't got round to it yet mate, I'm having a FAA class1 done in march when I go to houston to see if I can pass that.

Any info you can give me on france would be great!! PM or i can give you me email if you prefer.

Good luck for march!

whitelabel

Blinkz,

What is difference between france and holland.
Iam getting interested.
Iam thinking to go to states 2 but the only thing that is stopping me is a green card.
Can you tell me what your plans are
??

thanks,

chris

egbb_2004

Whitelabel,
In your previois thread you said that you can get the results destroyed if you fail, does this mean you can do the test again until you pass? Do you know if it is a Dutch law that allows them to be destroyed or one from the JAA?

whitelabel

Well I said destroy but that is not 100 % true.
If you fail the test they will not destroy it. They will keep it in the file. If you say nothing they will send your test results to the JAA.
the only thing you must do is tell them that they must not send your results to JAA.
That is private. They must honor your demand.
They will keep it in there own file but JAA will not know about it.
So you can retest yourself a few times but retest yourself at another AMC.

PedroUSB

Hi guys

I´d like to know any link with a database of either beynes, or falant test practitioners worldwide.

As many here, I have color deficiency reflected in a failed ishihara, but then confronted with other tests which I don´t know the names, only that one of them consists of fifteen barrels that you have to organize by the shade of color, and the other of one colored dot that you have to match with one of four placed around the first, with very-like shades.

I live in latin america and that´s why I want to know where is the closer lantern test, so go there and once and for all see if I´m fit.

Although I have the color deficiency I believe I have what the FAA says "perception of those colors necessary for a safe performance flying", well I guess a lot do!... but you know I want to have the confirmation of that, because my lifetime goal is to fly for a living, having the best job in the world!!!

Thanks

I forgot to say:

I passed the other two tests flawlessly.

Blinkz

The test where you organise the colours is Farnsworth D15 or D100 (depending on how many colours you have to arrange) and the colou dot to match with the other 4 dots is called the city test.

There is no database for lantern tests that I know of. Usually you can contact your aviation authority and they will tell you where they are.

egbb_2004

Just got back from Cologne and I passed the Beynes Lantern test!They test you in a much easier way than at LGW, first they show you the colours and say what they are then you just have you just have to repeat them. Plus it's in the dark! Anyone know now if this would be valid in Spain or would I have to do it again!!??!!

Blinkz

Congrats mate!! I sent you a PM hoping for the best, I'm so pleased for you! I don't know on the details if you can trasnfer it, I'm pretty sure you can transfer a full class 1 JAA medical to the UK, and if you talk to them and tell them you've passed they might retest you, you'll have to ask!

Can you PM me any details of where you went? sounds like a good place to go

egbb_2004

Hi Blinkz

I haven't got your PM yet

egbb_2004

Anyone else been to Cologne to do Beynes Lantern and failed somewhere else?

Wiggum75

Hi,

Anyone know whether the Ishihara plates used at Gatwick CAA medical office are the 24- or 38-plate variety?

I've applied for the ICAO Extended Renewal JAR Class 1 medical. I meet the Canadian minimum standard which is the Farnsworth D-15 test, a series of coloured disks you have to arrange in order from purple to turqoise.

However I routinely fail the Ishihara test, and am trying to "get used" to the plates. If anyone else is in the same boat, the 24-plate Ishihara is online at http://www.kcl.ac.uk/teares/gktvc/vc/lt/colourblindness/cblind.htm

Also, apparently there are (very!) tiny numbers on the real Ishihara plates, from 1-24 in series that match 1-24 on the online test above.

oligoe

You can buy the ishihara books on amazon, there are expensive but it's a great help. My only problem was i bought the 24 plates edition and the medical center in France used the 38 plates edition. I made only 6 mistakes on 30 plates but I had to passe the lantern test that I failed because of one color. The examiner told me twice that I have to take care to the white light because it appears yellowish/orange. First one she showed me was the orange one and because I didn't know what the other looked like, I said it was white. That only mistake broke all my dreams.
Now I tried to reapply but they definitly don't give me any help, they want as much people to fail.

Parkbremse

@oligoe

sorry to hear that, but if you have only done one Lantern Test, (presumably Beyne's Test i think), then you have another two chances. You can do the Holmes-Wright Test in either London or Amsterdam (at Schipol i think) or the Spectrolux Test in Duebendorf near Zurich. If you pass either of them, you'll get you unrestricted Class 1 Medical, even if you faild the other two.

oligoe

Danke Parkbremse,

I will give a try in Dubendorf, it is just an hour drive from where I live. Just one question, is the spectrolux the same thing as the so called anamaloscope ?
Thanks in advance...

egbb_2004

I believe the Spektrolux is similar to the Holmes Wright where there are the two lights which you have to name. The anamoloscope is a bit like a telescope where you have to look down and match the two different coloured halves of the circle.

Parkbremse

yes, the Spectrolux and the Holmes-Wright Test are quite similar, however there are some differences:

1. the HW-Test uses 5 different lights (white, yellowish green, green, two shades of red), the Spectrolux Test uses 6 different lights (two shades of white, green, pale green, two shades of red)

2. Viewing distance to the lantern is approx. 5m at the HW Test, but only 3m at Spectrolux Test.


Oligoe, whishing you the best, but in case you fail, i would encourage you to try the Holmes-Wright Test. I failed bot the Beyne's Lantern AND the Spectrolux Lantern, but finally passed the Holmes-Wright Test in Gatwick. So it is possible, even if doesn't look like it!

Viel Glück!

egbb_2004

Parkbremse,

How difficlut would you say the Spektrolux test is compared to Holmes Wright? Although you sit nearer to the lights are they smaller or different intensity?

Parkbremse

Difficult to answer. The size and intensity of the lights is pretty much the same in both tests, so the Spectrolux test makes it a bit easier to identify the lights. But actually if you can pass a test or not totally depends on your very own colour perception, on which i cannot comment. One Test, which is impossible for somebody can be the easiest test for somebody else, even if the're suffering from the same form of colour vision defiency. That's why i try to encourage everyone to try all 3 Tests.

egbb_2004

Anyone got any contact details for the place in Dubendorf?

egbb_2004

Anyone else been to Cologne to do the Beynes ?