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ShyTorque 10th Apr 2021 18:12


Originally Posted by charliegolf (Post 11025866)
Where'd you get your telly Shy? Think mine is from the same place, you know, the place where the 'OFF' switch comes as standard.

CG

Yes, and itís the big red button on the remote! ;)

BWSBoy6 10th Apr 2021 19:28

I guess, by now, we should be used to the news media squeezing every last drop out of any story, the fact that every minutiae will need to be analysed from every angle and every person that ever had the remotest contact with the subject has been asked for their opinion, plus a few that didn’t, but are going to be asked anyway because they perform well in front of a camera,

We had exactly the same modus operandi with:

Brexit
Covid
Trump and the White House debacle
George Floyd
Meghan and Harry
and finally, the D of E.

British news used to be a bit more ‘weighty’ and informative. We’ve now followed our American cousins and turned it all into a magazine dumbing down type presentation. Only worth flicking through to look at the glossy pictures but with no substance and full of click bait headlines.

ATNotts 10th Apr 2021 19:43

BWSBoy6

That about sums the state of BBC news up pretty well.

Saw C4 news tonight, different but not much better.

Dan Gerous 10th Apr 2021 19:44

It wasn't just BBC1,2 and News up here in Scotland, it was BBC Scotland and BBC Alba as well. Five channels showing exactly the same stuff.

Kiltrash 10th Apr 2021 20:45

Hope it's not sacrilegious to say I have managed a couple of box sets the last 30 hours rather than wall to wall D of E. Between dipping into the first 3 rounds of the Masters.
Dan, I also missed BBC Scotland with Sportsceane yesterday. 6 goals lost...
Yes he had a long life and fitted in a lot of other thinhs but so did Captain Sir Tom and I don't remember the wall to wall re runs.

NutLoose 10th Apr 2021 20:50


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11025870)
Yes, and it’s the big red button on the remote! ;)


Nooooooooo............ that’s record on Sky. ;)

You are not the only one Kiltrash,, I’ve been working through my saved content on my Skybox. I had respect for the guy but do I want to hear everyone’s recollections of when they met him, NO. It’s just the same garbage regurgitated over and over again.

I feel for the Queen, she cannot even turn on the TV to take her mind off things.

Spunky Monkey 10th Apr 2021 21:45

Far be it from me to fly in the face of public opinion, but I thought the radio coverage on the BBC was first class yesterday.
There was very little repeated apart from the news, yet they had continued guests on the radio who knew him and could give personal accounts of his exploits and support for the many charities he was a patron or trustee.
In the evening 6 Music switched back to playing some more somber music.
The commercial stations also toned down their offerings.

Those people who complained should perhaps try unwinding a little and realise that life does just revolve around them and their 'needs.'


TURIN 10th Apr 2021 22:09

My complaint is not of the coverage. It is the fact it was identical across all BBC Channels. The same broadcast, not a different view or opinion, exactly the same. Radio was identical. The exact same broadcast across all BBC radio channels. This is very different to sports coverage. It is rare that the same game/match is broadcast at the same time on more than one channel. Can you imagine the uproar if the FA Cup final was simultaneously aired on BBC1, BBC2, BBC News, BBC Alba, ALL BBC Radio?
I do not have a problem with the reporting of this event. he was a public figure, widely respected and admired by many, a veteran of WWII and by all accounts a decent chap. However as a licence payer I should be given a choice to not watch it or listen to it if I choose. Yes I can always switch it off. I did, but that argument could be used to quell all the anti BBC bias posted on JB. Except of course that paying for the BBC is not a choice.

Spunky Monkey 10th Apr 2021 22:21

I don't think the BBC had any choice in the matter.
They are told what to do on Operation Forth Bridge, London Bridge and other similar events.
It is a civil service dictat.

Sallyann1234 11th Apr 2021 08:37


Originally Posted by Spunky Monkey (Post 11025962)
I don't think the BBC had any choice in the matter.
They are told what to do on Operation Forth Bridge, London Bridge and other similar events.
It is a civil service dictat.

Have you a reference for that unlikely suggestion?

ATNotts 11th Apr 2021 08:55


Originally Posted by Spunky Monkey (Post 11025962)
I don't think the BBC had any choice in the matter.
They are told what to do on Operation Forth Bridge, London Bridge and other similar events.
It is a civil service dictat.

If that is the case then BBC is the 'State Broadcaster'.

NutLoose 11th Apr 2021 10:43

BBC 2 lost 65% of viewers over repeating the Death shows.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ips-death.html

C4 under fire too for carrying on :ugh:

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...-with-Me-video

Dan Gerous 11th Apr 2021 10:58


Originally Posted by Kiltrash (Post 11025933)
Dan, I also missed BBC Scotland with Sportscene yesterday. 6 goals lost....

As a Jambo, I certainly missed it. I did at one point wonder if the game that night would have been called off. I have watched a few items about the Duke, and found them very interesting, but I think 5 channels showing the same programs was ridiculous.

Fareastdriver 11th Apr 2021 11:06

You think that the media coverage of the Duke dying is heavy. Just wait until the Queen croaks.

BWSBoy6 11th Apr 2021 15:16

There’s also a huge assumption that everyone in the U.K. is a royalist too. Yet again, there is this almost tangible peer pressure that we must all show our united emotions and anyone who doesn’t is unpatriotic and somehow disloyal.

As I’ve said before, I’m truly sorry for his family. A bereavement is tough wherever and whoever you are, but as seems to be the new norm, the death of anyone well known seems to be automatically appropriated by a large sector of the population as though the subject was a member of their own family. His was a life well lived and a fantastic age, even by today’s standards.

I also understand the royals have repeatedly requested that people don’t lay flowers and donate to charity instead, but still large numbers continue to persist.

racingrigger 11th Apr 2021 15:55


Originally Posted by Nige321 (Post 11025272)
So there were 59 types in his logbook.
Anyone have a list?
From a quick surf around I found:
Turbulent
Harvard
Chipmunk
Heron
Wessex
Whirlwind
Andover
B757
Concorde
VC10
Andover
Slingsby T42b
AH64 Apache
Trident
Westland WG30

Can anyone add to the list?

Maybe the BAe146?

Senior Paper Monitor 11th Apr 2021 16:30

One of 'the firm' fell off the runway in a 146 didn't they - which one was that ?

Apologies to Philip - it was his 'little boy' that did that (a million pounds worth !!)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7472903/Moment-Prince-Charles-crashed-Queens-Flight-jet-1m-smash.html

ATNotts 11th Apr 2021 17:25


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 11026188)
You think that the media coverage of the Duke dying is heavy. Just wait until the Queen croaks.

Indeed, Prince Phillip's demise is merely the "warm up act". Hopefully I might be lucky enough to be out of the country when the Queen eventually dies. That isn't to say that I'll be happy when she does, quite the contrary, but the media froth and the public outpouring may likely be almost unbearable in its intensity and longevity.

Jhieminga 11th Apr 2021 17:31


Originally Posted by Senior Paper Monitor (Post 11026334)
One of 'the firm' fell off the runway in a 146 didn't they - which one was that ?

This one: https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/187927

2 sheds 11th Apr 2021 17:44

The BBC defence correspondent, Jonathan Beale, was less than impressive in his commentary on the 41-gun salute broadcast. I lost count of the number of times that he said "y'know" to his female colleague. Commentators such as Richard Dimbleby and Raymond Baxter used to bring dignity, clarity and military knowledge to the party - all of which was distinctly lacking. Let's hope that Aunty can do better for the funeral.

Barcli 11th Apr 2021 17:49

It is all made a bit easier with Lucrezia delivering........

Effluent Man 11th Apr 2021 19:52


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11026363)
Indeed, Prince Phillip's demise is merely the "warm up act". Hopefully I might be lucky enough to be out of the country when the Queen eventually dies. That isn't to say that I'll be happy when she does, quite the contrary, but the media froth and the public outpouring may likely be almost unbearable in its intensity and longevity.

My view precisely. Driving home with Radio 2 playing solid slush I just wondered what he would have thought about being exposed to such sentimental rubbish. I retuned to Spurs v Man U. Last night apparently R2 offered Vanessa Feltz giving her three ha' porth.

West Coast 11th Apr 2021 20:09


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11026363)
Indeed, Prince Phillip's demise is merely the "warm up act". Hopefully I might be lucky enough to be out of the country when the Queen eventually dies. That isn't to say that I'll be happy when she does, quite the contrary, but the media froth and the public outpouring may likely be almost unbearable in its intensity and longevity.

Rivaled only by the feigned adulation when a North Korean leader dies.

NutLoose 11th Apr 2021 20:11

Perhaps lessons will be learnt and they will save it all for one channel when Betty sadly departs us. The world has moved on and sadly the current Royal couple were from a bygone age who exuded royalty, kindness and understanding, I dread to think of the future.

ShyTorque 11th Apr 2021 22:45


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11026431)
Perhaps lessons will be learnt and they will save it all for one channel when Betty sadly departs us. The world has moved on and sadly the current Royal couple were from a bygone age who exuded royalty, kindness and understanding, I dread to think of the future.

Judging by some of the posts here, so do I.

RatherBeFlying 12th Apr 2021 03:17

I find it hard to be grief stricken when the inevitable comes calling for somebody in their nineties. More a sentiment of well done and good memories.

Methinks the next major grief component will be about who will be taking her place. But he will do good service until the grandkids have grown up. Too bad he and Diana were unable to work it out.

radeng 12th Apr 2021 23:43

I do get the impression - perhaps incorrectly - that that William and Kate are 'cast in the same mould as Elizabeth and Philip' as far as their as far as their attitude to duty is concerned. Time will tell...

piesupper 13th Apr 2021 02:30

They should make Phillips funeral pay to view. Then we will see who really gives a toss about the parasites.

piesupper 13th Apr 2021 02:31

Mummy didnt let him play with her train set at all after that, IIRC? That end of the runway is still known as Holding Point Charlie.

Flyer517 13th Apr 2021 03:53

I was interested to hear from the president of the Australian Duke Of Edinburgh awards that in most countries it is actually called "The President's Award" or something similar, given anyone outside the Commonwealth would not be interested in the connection. Apparently Prince Philip did not want it to be named after him if it wouldn't make sense in other countries, but was more concerned that it was just available to young people everywhere.

That surely says something about the man.

Krystal n chips 13th Apr 2021 04:16

A new entry in the Guiness Book of Records then !.....well maybe not. It's actually quite amusing to read the basis for some of the complaints....the ones about being sombrely attired in particular. Does it make any difference as to how the news is presented when the topic is obvious ?.....nope.

BBC’s Prince Philip coverage breaks UK TV complaints record | BBC | The Guardian

NutLoose 13th Apr 2021 14:55


Boris Johnson is under pressure to sanction the construction of a £190 million successor to HMY Royal Yacht Britannia as a lasting memorial to the Duke of Edinburgh....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...nnia-memorial/

I agree on three proviso, it is funded by the Royal Family, is RN crewed funded by the Royal Family and the Royal Family fund the escort ships too. Nope? I thought not....

Kiltrash 13th Apr 2021 16:52

To be perfectly honest I don't intent to watch the funeral and will be content with say the 10 pm news. I hope 3 pm Sat is suitably bright and clear so me and dog can find a long walk.
Will all the sport having been moved, wonder what old b&w films will be on other non news channels?

treadigraph 13th Apr 2021 16:55

My friend wants to watch the funeral - unfortunately she's got a long anticipated and, in her opinion, well overdue appointment with her hairdresser at 3pm. Decisions...

charliegolf 13th Apr 2021 16:58


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 11027697)
My friend wants to watch the funeral - unfortunately she's got a long anticipated and, in her opinion, well overdue appointment with her hairdresser at 3pm. Decisions...

Highlights, obvs! Boom boom!

CG

treadigraph 13th Apr 2021 17:06

Well, I think it is the contrast she's having a problem with...

NutLoose 13th Apr 2021 17:36

That takes some sense of duty, kudos to the woman, an inspiration to us all.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56740980


The Queen carries out first duty since Prince Philip's death


..

Kiltrash 14th Apr 2021 07:09

Now the font of all knowledge the early morning tv presenters tell us that due to Covid HMTQ will have to sit apart ( on her own ) during the service. Pardon me but is she not allowed to form a support bubble with one other family as she is a household of one...with Charles and Camila, her eldest son, or William and Kate the countries favourite Royals?,

Kiltrash 14th Apr 2021 07:14

Mrs K is also having having her hair do in a friends home salon that's Covid secure at 3 pm Saturday. Will catch up later with tbe highlights

stagger 14th Apr 2021 07:48


Originally Posted by Kiltrash (Post 11027958)
Now the font of all knowledge the early morning tv presenters tell us that due to Covid HMTQ will have to sit apart ( on her own ) during the service. Pardon me but is she not allowed to form a support bubble with one other family as she is a household of one...with Charles and Camila, her eldest son, or William and Kate the countries favourite Royals?,

Knowing someone who is disabled and has a live-in carer - I've often wondered about whether the carer counts as part of the household - and whether it's possible for this person to form a "support bubble" with another household?

Similarly would ladies-in-waiting, maids, cleaners, cooks, security guards, gardeners, press secretaries etc count as part of the Queen's household - many are "live-in" staff too - i.e. they live at the palaces.


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