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ShyTorque 10th Apr 2021 00:32

I always liked him and saw through the hate peddled through the U.K. media over the latter part of his life and understood his sense of mischievous humour. I never met him but I rather feel like I’ve lost a favourite, if at times grumpy, old uncle.

visibility3miles 10th Apr 2021 01:18


As for... people leaving floral tributes, what is that all about.
On this side of the pond, I’ve heard reports that the flowers are in support of the Queen, who just lost her lifelong companion...

Uncle Fred 10th Apr 2021 01:45

I can only try to imagine what HM is going through at this time. Certainly 99 years is a good innings, but after 74 years of marriage and a lifetime of truly shared experience the void must be overwhelming.

Krystal n chips 10th Apr 2021 06:15


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11025269)
He’d probably hate all the TV coverage, I know I do.

His passing was always going to result in the UK media indulging in saturation coverage and here the BBC went into overdrive. Dedicating one channel, fine, always going to be the case, but when BBC 1 and BBC 2 are both showing the same reports at the same time ?......that is unwarranted.

Perhaps the best report , not unexpectedly, came from C4's Alex Thomson outside Sandringham ....down to earth, pragmatic and encapsulating his life devoid of the sycophancy elsewhere.....which he commenced his report with by saying the Duke would not be impressed by.

The Guardian's obituary is equally pragmatic.

The Guardian view on Prince Philip: a man of his time | Prince Philip | The Guardian

Alsacienne 10th Apr 2021 06:44


but when BBC 1 and BBC 2 are both showing the same reports at the same time
but these are the national state-run channels ... and no competition as to the output on this occasion between them. Not surprised.

WilliumMate 10th Apr 2021 07:14

Calm seas and a safe harbour Jack.

RIP

ATNotts 10th Apr 2021 07:42


Originally Posted by Alsacienne (Post 11025487)
but these are the national state-run channels ... and no competition as to the output on this occasion between them. Not surprised.

Treading on thin ice there, any suggestion the BBC is a 'state broadcaster' is vehemently rebutted even though it is to all intent and purposes.

As for the saturation coverage, totally OTT.

Effluent Man 10th Apr 2021 08:40

I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm agnostic on the royals, a charming anachronism. But the pulling of schedules is unacceptable. I always listen to Tony Blackburn Sounds of the Sixties on Saturday morning,

ZFT 10th Apr 2021 09:26


Originally Posted by Effluent Man (Post 11025530)
I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm agnostic on the royals, a charming anachronism. But the pulling of schedules is unacceptable. I always listen to Tony Blackburn Sounds of the Sixties on Saturday morning,

did you bitch a few weeks ago when Tony took time out when his sister died?

There are times to just chill out!

ATNotts 10th Apr 2021 09:34

Nobody would "bitch" if The Queen took a few days off following the death of her husband, however the nation didn't need to come to a stop because he has died. The news this morning is just a constant diet of royal nonsense, Aljazeera provided some proper news this morning, and there is a great deal of it about.

I like Effluent Man don't really have much of an opinion either way as regards the monarchy, it what it is, it does us no harm, and it might be no worse than were the nation to be a Republic. I did admire the Duke of Edinburgh for being something of a maverick and never being afraid to say what he thinks, if there's one good trait he has passed on to Prince Charles it is trait and both he (the Duke) and Charles have been savagely lambasted during their life for telling things as they see them. The media appear to have overlooked all Phillip's gaffs in the sycophantic coverage since yesterday lunchtime.

His is a sad loss, but for his wife and his immediate family, and to those actually knew him and they have my sympathy, we have all lost loved ones and it hurts. It's the "national mourning" I simply don't get.

4mastacker 10th Apr 2021 09:53


...Dedicating one channel, fine, always going to be the case, but when BBC 1 and BBC 2 are both showing the same reports at the same time ?......that is unwarranted.
But it's alright for them to simultaneously show the cross-country snooker from St Andrews or the bonk-bonk thirtay fortay from Wimbledum on both channels?

stagger 10th Apr 2021 09:53

Ok - broadcasting the same programming reflecting on his life simultaneously on BB1, BB2, BBC News and cancelling the football on BBC4 is one thing - for a state broadcaster. I'm sure missing an episode of Masterchef won't do anyone any harm.

However, throughout the UK digital billboards have been taken over to display constant tributes - in many cases replacing COVID-19 public health messages.

ATNotts 10th Apr 2021 10:00


Originally Posted by stagger (Post 11025572)
Ok - broadcasting the same programming reflecting on his life simultaneously on BB1, BB2, BBC News and cancelling the football on BBC4 is one thing - for a state broadcaster. I'm sure missing an episode of Masterchef won't do anyone any harm.

However, throughout the UK digital billboards have been taken over to display constant tributes - in many cases replacing COVID-19 public health messages.

I agree, missing the odd soap or reality TV programme is hardly going to be the end of the world, but BBC has the News Channel that it could have turned to 100% coverage, or better turn one of the entertainment channels over to it, but what they did was overkill. I wasn't aware of the digital billboard thing, that is more reminiscent of China, North Korea or The Soviet Union.

The public is very much being "told how to think" or "what to think" which isn't healthy.

stagger 10th Apr 2021 10:05

These aren't my photos but I passed around 30 like this during a 30 minute journey yesterday. They're down the sides of all major roads - on boards that normally display a mix of adverts and public health messages...

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a6d8ba2a4f.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e26f71fec5.jpg

stagger 10th Apr 2021 10:08

What it's like driving around right now - flanked by them - in case you miss one on one side...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a41a5ec0ee.jpg

annakm 10th Apr 2021 10:17

Genuinely sad for the family, a loss especially after all these years is a hard one, but there seems to be a massive assumption by your media that all U.K.citizens are royalists.

This is a yet another example of public opinion being driven by the news organisations, rather than reflecting it, which has been an ever increasing trend over the last few years, possibly starting with the death of Diana.

Shades of NK?

“We have lost (insert well known persons name) therefore, we will have wall to wall eulogies and endless examples of their beneficence. Anyone who doesn’t fall into line is automatically suspect and a non believer”

PP lived to a ripe old age and married into the nation’s most privileged family. Of course his death should be acknowledged, but this OTT and rather sycophantic coverage is starting to become extremely tedious. There are far more important things going on in the world at this very moment. Time to move on.




ATNotts 10th Apr 2021 10:23

Replace the architecture, and the picture with someone called "Kim" and you've got a street scene in Pyong Yang.

Krystal n chips 10th Apr 2021 10:25


Originally Posted by 4mastacker (Post 11025571)
But it's alright for them to simultaneously show the cross-country snooker from St Andrews or the bonk-bonk thirtay fortay from Wimbledum on both channels?

There's no difference whatsoever.

When the Beeb decide to do saturation coverage, irrespective of the topic, they simply go ahead regardless. And therein lies the problem. I always have been / will be a supporter of the BBC but that doesn't make them immune from warranted criticism when they decide to broadcast what they consider to be mandatory viewing. Dedicating BBC1 in memory would have been fine, likewise other channels also altered their schedules....it's broadcasting protocol after all....but filling up just about any available broadcasting time with the same reports is basically an insult to viewers.

However, we now know what to expect, albeit even more extensively covered, when the Queen passes.

treadigraph 10th Apr 2021 10:41

Has anyone suggested yet that perhaps the pubs with gardens shouldn't open Monday as a mark of respect...? :}

If they did I can just hear Phil roaring like a wounded mastodon from the hereafter "open the f***ing pubs and have a pint - I bloody would if I could..."

I was watching one of the freeview channels yesterday morning - the programme continued but the ads were replaced by "Breaking news, go and watch the BBC News". Well, I already knew but I can imagine people screaming in horrified shock and wild surmise on possible devastating headlines such as, the Russians have dropped a bomb on New York, Boris has decreed we all be vegetarians, Tom Cruise is gay, Cliff Richard isn't gay, Adolph Hitler is alive and well and living in Surbiton, OMG!!!!!". Why not simply put up a screen that says: "Phil croaks, more info on the BBC news"?

Saturation coverage? I imagine in the dailies it will be at least page 15 till you get to any other news.

I liked him and I'll remember him fondly. Isn't that enough?

"Where DID you get that hat?" - allegedly to his wife on her coronation day... :ok:


stagger 10th Apr 2021 10:48


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 11025611)
Has anyone suggested yet that perhaps the pubs with gardens shouldn't open Monday as a mark of respect...? :}

You jest but apparently yesterday when the news broke - The Royal Horticultural Society promptly closed some of its gardens "as a mark of respect" chucking out the visitors who had booked tickets and travelled to visit.

Not kidding - they rounded up the visitors who were there and turfed them out!!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....323f34c27b.jpg



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