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tartare 23rd Mar 2021 23:25

Suez canal blocked
 
Crikey!
Scroll down for the picture.
https://gcaptain.com/grounded-mega-s...th-directions/
Ships backed up into the Med and the Red Sea.
Imagine the honking! ;)



https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0dfee4eee.jpeg

Alsacienne 23rd Mar 2021 23:47

Unbelievable and worth a look!

jolihokistix 24th Mar 2021 00:14

Oops. (The article is convinced the ship's name is 'Ever Given'.)

Ascend Charlie 24th Mar 2021 00:36


Oops. (The article is convinced the ship's name is 'Ever Given'.)
Umm... if you look at the last picture, you will see "EVER GIVEN" as the name on the bows, and the owners are EVERGREEN painted on the side.

jolihokistix 24th Mar 2021 01:14


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 11015025)
Umm... if you look at the last picture, you will see "EVER GIVEN" as the name on the bows, and the owners are EVERGREEN painted on the side.

Oops x2 :ok:

tartare 24th Mar 2021 01:22

Strewth - imagine the conversation on the bridge as she started to drift right of centreline.
"Left rudder Hoskins, left rudder....!!!"

lomapaseo 24th Mar 2021 02:06

What kind of tide fall can you expect in the canal?

and where the hell is Ancient Mariner when you need him ?

nonsense 24th Mar 2021 02:18

Suez tides.

visibility3miles 24th Mar 2021 03:08

How did it get crosswise to the canal in the first place?

Andrewgr2 24th Mar 2021 06:52


Originally Posted by visibility3miles (Post 11015077)
How did it get crosswise to the canal in the first place?

I assume that if the bows ground when underway the vast momentum of the ship has to go somewhere. If the path of least resistance is to swing the boat around rather than driving the bows further into the mud, that is what will happen.

Ancient Mariner 24th Mar 2021 06:55


Originally Posted by lomapaseo (Post 11015049)
What kind of tide fall can you expect in the canal?

and where the hell is Ancient Mariner when you need him ?

He's high and dry and having a laugh. Pay peanuts, etc.
Per

Newforest2 24th Mar 2021 07:16

Expensive parking ticket created!

DaveReidUK 24th Mar 2021 07:56

Loss of power, including steering, according to an expert on the BBC WS.

Apparently large ships tend to swing to the right (sorry, starboard) when that happens.

They are looking at offloading fuel and, if necessary, containers to refloat it. That sounds like fun.

SOPS 24th Mar 2021 08:05

I wonder why they swing to the right?

tartare 24th Mar 2021 08:09


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11015162)
I wonder why they swing to the right?

Only in the Northern hemisphere... :E

treadigraph 24th Mar 2021 08:15

Well, I won't complain about getting stuck in a jam on the M11 again...

(M25 I will, and I don't use the M1 south of the M18!)


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11015162)
I wonder why they swing to the right?

They are floating voters...

Thai Pom 24th Mar 2021 08:27

Myself and a group of school friends did this on a smaller scale on the Midlands canals in a rented houseboat back in the day.
The CAMRA Real Ale Guide to the waterways did not explain how to get out of the situation...........

treadigraph 24th Mar 2021 08:35

Thai Pom, had you been sampling Marston's Even Keel?

SOPS 24th Mar 2021 08:37


Originally Posted by tartare (Post 11015165)
Only in the Northern hemisphere... :E

I wish I had a like button.

Thai Pom 24th Mar 2021 08:41

Treadigraph, There was definitely some Marston's involved !!!

TWT 24th Mar 2021 09:02

The EVER GIVEN hasn't had a good run in its short life.

It mangled a ferry in the Elbe River in 2019

https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-ne...p-brushed-fer/

jeepjeep 24th Mar 2021 09:04


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11015156)
Loss of power, including steering, according to an expert on the BBC WS.

Apparently large ships tend to swing to the right (sorry, starboard) when that happens.

They are looking at offloading fuel and, if necessary, containers to refloat it. That sounds like fun.

That's a little bit more effort than finding a pair of jumper cables! Not a good day for that skipper.

Denti 24th Mar 2021 09:10

The current blockage is going to put quite a big spanner in the flow of cargo, which is extremely high as it is.

papabravowhiskey 24th Mar 2021 09:21

For those of us who grew up listening to "The Navy Lark" on the wireless, it is evident that Leslie Phillips has transferred to the Merchant Navy. Not enough "Left hand down a bit"

DaveReidUK 24th Mar 2021 09:51


Originally Posted by tartare (Post 11015165)
Only in the Northern hemisphere... :E

Yes, apparently it's to do with the propeller(s).

As they obviously rotate the opposite way in the Southern Hemisphere, then the swing would be in the other way.

UniFoxOs 24th Mar 2021 09:57

Somewhat ironic that "Ever Green" has now cost the planet an enormous amount of pollution with all those oil-guzzlers floating about doing nothnig.

ehwatezedoing 24th Mar 2021 10:10


Originally Posted by tartare (Post 11015012)

Not as quick as airport's workers covering Airlines names after a whoopsie.

Nice publicity :p

treadigraph 24th Mar 2021 10:21

Reminds me of HMS Vanguard blocking the entrance to Portsmouth Harbour when they tried to tow her off for scrapping...

Carry0nLuggage 24th Mar 2021 11:07


Originally Posted by ehwatezedoing (Post 11015258)
Not as quick as airport's workers covering Airlines names after a whoopsie.

Nice publicity :p

That photo is from a Maersk vessel. Out on the net there are pictures of two Maersk site container ships with almost identical bow damage after ramming the quayside in Los Angeles in the same way.

Union Jack 24th Mar 2021 12:08

Looks like we need a slightly differently named thread to complement the one entitled Use Of Rudder In Large Transport Category Airplanes. That said, and at the risk of being accused of hypocrisy, it's also encouraging to see that the PPRuNe instant Board of Inquiry has yet to gather speed....;)

Jack

nonsense 24th Mar 2021 12:26


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11015162)
I wonder why they swing to the right?

Presumably the single screw (that's "propeller" to most people) rotates clockwise viewed from behind. The bottom of the prop exerts more lateral force than the top (known as "prop walk"), pushing the stern to starboard, so the ship tries to steer slightly to port. This in turn is corrected with some combination of prop shaft/hull asymmetry and rudder in order to steer a straight course. When the prop stops pushing the stern to starboard, the ship initially veers to starboard.


Originally Posted by visibility3miles (Post 11015077)
How did it get crosswise to the canal in the first place?


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....15f23a1b9a.png


ThorMos 24th Mar 2021 12:33


Originally Posted by nonsense (Post 11015363)
Presumably the single screw (that's "propeller" to most people) rotates clockwise viewed from behind. The bottom of the prop exerts more lateral force than the top (known as "prop walk"), pushing the stern to starboard, so the ship tries to steer slightly to port. This in turn is corrected with some combination of prop shaft/hull asymmetry and rudder in order to steer a straight course. When the prop stops pushing the stern to starboard, the ship initially veers to starboard.




https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....15f23a1b9a.png


I thought i would never be able to write this:

'children of the magenta line'

hat, coat...

Ancient Observer 24th Mar 2021 12:35

"Corrrrr", "Ooh, nasty...", "Oh lumme!",

"Left hand down a bit".

sycamore 24th Mar 2021 12:56

Don`t they have a man with a lead weight on the front pointy bit calling the depth,or maybe just "swinging the lead,me hearties"...?
That JCB on the shore under the bow will have fun diggin a trench....

treadigraph 24th Mar 2021 13:09

Here she be:

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...630138/zoom:15

gerry111 24th Mar 2021 14:21


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 11015025)
Umm... if you look at the last picture, you will see "EVER GIVEN" as the name on the bows, and the owners are EVERGREEN painted on the side.

Isn't "EVER GIVEN" the name on the stern?

SpringHeeledJack 24th Mar 2021 14:43

I suppose it was bound to happen sometime in the Suez or Panama Canals. Amazing that it was one of the largest 400metre x 60metre beasts that it happened to. It's been there for enough time to have caused serious disruption to the clockwork schedules of the container shippers, especially the transfer of containers off to feeder ships at their scheduled stops. All greta when it works, nightmare when it doesn't, the insurers must be sweating bullets!


Mr Optimistic 24th Mar 2021 14:49

https://www.vesselfinder.com/ is handy. Yes it's Ever Given.

ORAC 24th Mar 2021 15:07


I suppose it was bound to happen sometime in the Suez or Panama Canals.
Ignoring the many years it was shut during the Arab-Israeli wars, it was closed for 3 days in 2004 and again for a few hours each time in 2016 and 2017. Which is why they have a fleet of tugs on standby...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-11-...r-freed/582532

lomapaseo 24th Mar 2021 15:25


Originally Posted by Mr Optimistic (Post 11015467)
https://www.vesselfinder.com/ is handy. Yes it's Ever Given.

I heard they are rushing to paint it over to "Everstuck"


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