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Fareastdriver 20th Mar 2021 18:43

Should've kept the Consul Capri.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Cons...UAAOSwZx9gViOb

NutLoose 20th Mar 2021 21:02

Consul Capri...sigh.. guy who I won’t name bought one off a MT driver who cherished it, we went out for a drink and on the way back someone past us, now as the driver he hadn’t been drinking but for some reason he took umbrage at being past so took off after him, despite us pleading he had it straight through the redline ( and he was an aircraft engine tradesman ) and kept it there, that poor old ford V4 screwing its nuts off.. we eventually reached the outskirts of Reading and as he slowed down you could hear the poor old girl sounding like a Chieftain tank on a cold morning as the temp gauge went through the roof, he managed to pull into a side street before it died and it could well be still sitting there. What a waste of what was a beautifully kept car.

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Kiltrash 20th Mar 2021 21:38

We used to drive from Edinburgh and to get to the North side of the Firth of Forth we used the ferry from South Queensferry to North you get the idea. This was before the Forth Road Bridge was opened in 1964 ish.
Sometimes due to engineering works there was only one ferry running and so a delay of almost 45 minutes was the norm.
So we would join the queue and Grandad would wander off for a smoke of the pipe and watch the trains on the bridge and he would return when the car was due to load.
One day he did not return and we were holding up the cars behind....
He was located in the Hawes Inn Hotel totally forgetful this was a family trip out. ...

DType 20th Mar 2021 22:30

Borrowed my father's Hillman Minx Estate for a camping trip in the NW Highlands, late 1950s. A 3/4 mattress fitted neatly between the wheel arches, very cosy. But it just could not get up the hill to Diabaig. Then I recalled that reverse was a lower ratio than first, so we charged up backwards. The cooling system was not effective at sustained high load at negative forward velocity, but we were able to continue after a breather at the top.
The speedo was very non-linear, I think the last number was 80, but you could get it beyond to H then P and eventually to M if you tried (probably where 120 mph would have been on a truly linear dial, in fact almost all the way round back to zero).
It always conked out at the same place going up Soutra Hill in winter. The magic cure was to open the bonnet, remove the distributor cap, run a greasy finger round the contacts, put all back, and continue. Yes, carburettor icing, which melted whilst we fooled around with the distributor.

Gargleblaster 20th Mar 2021 23:21

My late father's cars that I remember:

A Volga, third series (Baleen).

A Moskowich van, probably a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskvitch_412.

Hydromet 20th Mar 2021 23:39

These International trucks were my Grandfather's, and possibly the first vehicles my father (on right) drove. They were the first trucks to be driven overland from Cooktown to Weipa in North Qld, in 1931. My father was 18 in the photo. In an article that he wrote for a magazine in the 1950s, he described the difficulties of crossing Cape York on what had previously been foot tracks. This makes the effort of Hector Macquarrie and Dick Mathews, in making the trip in an Austin 7 a couple of years earlier, pretty remarkable.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3494993908.jpg

Pinky the pilot 21st Mar 2021 02:21

Oi Gerry111; What about the Monaro with the 327(?) V8 that he had back in the late 60's?


artee 21st Mar 2021 03:18


Originally Posted by Hydromet (Post 11012960)
These International trucks were my Grandfather's...

What a great picture! Different days.

Hydromet 21st Mar 2021 07:33

Thanks Artee, glad you like it.

gerry111 21st Mar 2021 08:06


Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot (Post 11013012)
Oi Gerry111; What about the Monaro with the 327(?) V8 that he had back in the late 60's?

Pinky, Dad's first Monaro was a silver mink 1969 HK with six cylinder 186 cid Sports engine. His second was an electra blue 1971 HG with 253cid V8. Apparently my brother got to drive the V8 (once) when he was learning to drive..

I think an original 1968 Bathurst HK 327cid V8 Holden Monaro sold a while back for around AUD $1 million!

Cheers, Mate.

Kiltrash 21st Mar 2021 09:10

Back in the day traffic, cars and filling stations were few and far between. So if you were in the Highlands you had to be aware of where fuel could be had. Obviously long before self service and to get fuel you would draw up and go to the house and knock the door, and hope they were in.
One we went to was out and a notice said to fill up and pay in the honesty box.
There was a metered dial and handwritten calculator for tbe price.
Different times

Effluent Man 21st Mar 2021 09:36


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11012901)
Consul Capri...sigh.. guy who I wonít name bought one off a MT driver who cherished it, we went out for a drink and on the way back someone past us, now as the driver he hadnít been drinking but for some reason he took umbrage at being past so took off after him, despite us pleading he had it straight through the redline ( and he was an aircraft engine tradesman ) and kept it there, that poor old ford V4 screwing its nuts off.. we eventually reached the outskirts of Reading and as he slowed down you could here the poor old girl sounding like a Chieftain tank on a cold morning as the temp gauge went through the roof, he managed to pull into a side street before it died and it could well be still sitting there. What a waste of what was a beautifully kept car.

Iirc the V4 wasn't ever fitted to the earlier Capri. It was a 1340cc straight four with a three bearing crank. That set up was fine on the 105E 997cc and ok ish on the 1198, although the heavier Cortina did knock them out. The 1340 however was a lemon and wore out very quickly.

Landflap 21st Mar 2021 11:29

Must admit it wasn't my Dad's but best mate's. His Dad was a big shot in Iran and reckoned he could get us both into Iranair via , "connected" time on light twins . So, there we were and his Dad had this huge, American station wagon type of thing. No idea what it was but even the tail-gate was bigger than most barn doors. You know, the sort of fabbo American cars that seemed to wobble backwards & forwards for quite a while after stopping. Pure joy.

DType 21st Mar 2021 11:43

Those Highland petrol pumps were often hand cranked. My father once asked for 16 gallons and was refused - too much like hard work. Conversely, on a business trip to London during petrol rationing, when he asked for 18 gallons on the A1, the garage owner was so pleased with the money that he refused to take any coupons, and invited him to call in any time he wanted more (unrationed) fuel.

NutLoose 21st Mar 2021 16:31


Originally Posted by Hydromet (Post 11013055)
Thanks Artee, glad you like it.

agreed with previous comments, 400 odd miles with presumably no garages or fuel stops on route.

Kiltrash 21st Mar 2021 16:36

Fuel Rationing, During the War Grandad was in the fishing industry he got additional coupons for fuel, Uncle was in the Whisky industry and got a "Works Allowance" to stop pilfering.
Needless to say they had a ' arrangements, ' Fuel for Whisky
( long before I came along.) But I was aware similar happened into the ' 60's where Friday night a parcel of 6 fillets for a bottle of Whisky, the Ding Dong brand

NutLoose 21st Mar 2021 16:38


Originally Posted by Effluent Man (Post 11013091)
Iirc the V4 wasn't ever fitted to the earlier Capri. It was a 1340cc straight four with a three bearing crank. That set up was fine on the 105E 997cc and ok ish on the 1198, although the heavier Cortina did knock them out. The 1340 however was a lemon and wore out very quickly.

it must have been the Corsair then, both similar looking. But I’m sure it looked like the Capri.


Kiltrash 21st Mar 2021 20:05

Grandad would start at silly o' clock and not the first time he would leave a parking light on overnight and would have a flat battery the next morning. As the eldest it became my job to be trained how to start a car with the Starting Handle. ...never dislocated a finger but sometimes the kick back did cause a hand injury.
my excuse why I could not do my homework...
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ex82watcher 21st Mar 2021 20:42


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11013350)
it must have been the Corsair then, both similar looking. But Iím sure it looked like the Capri.

Perhaps a Ford Classic ? rather similar to the Capri,but less sporty,and with an inward sloping rear window,like the Anglia.

hiflymk3 21st Mar 2021 21:32

I recall my father on a moped before he graduated to a jellymould Hillman, then an Austin A60,- (austintatious) and a Triumph Dolomite. He aspired to a Humber or Rover but never got there.

More interesting was a rather colourful uncle who had Vauxhall Crestas, Ford Consuls before he got the Jag bug. His last Jag was a 3.8 in which I sat on his lap and steered. After that a 2+2 and a Mach 1 Mustang. Fancy a spin he would ask us kids. :ok:

exeng 21st Mar 2021 21:33

Nut Loose,

I owned a V4 Corsair back in the early 70's. So they definitely existed - don't think there was ever a V4 Capri though. The Corsair was for me at the time quite a luxury ride.

kind regards
Exeng

Slow Biker 21st Mar 2021 21:45

The first family car I remember was a 1935ish Morris 10, CPU 284, which served us well for several years with regular summer evening trips to Frinton. We lived in Chelmsford, so a holiday drive to Banff took two days; we also went to Llandudno, where a half shaft went, but dad fixed it before we went home. The longest trip was to Innsbruck, we stopped at Reims to see the cathedral and then on through Germany to Austria. We chugged up the Fern Pass where my sister insisted on standing on the edge to see the lake at the bottom, no barriers then, our mother almost had a heart attack! What made such an impression on me was the kindness of the German people towards me and my sister, especially the landladies of the B&Bs where we stayed on the journey. At one stop on the way home my mother was given a box full of ham, butter, eggs and honey; it seems the word was that the Brits were starving at home, and this was to help us on our way. Looking back I realize what a generous gesture it was, given it was a relatively short time after the war.
The Morris was replaced by a Mk 1 Zephyr; my chronology is a little vague, but a Peugeot 504, an Austin 1100 in which I passed the driving test in '65 and a Rover 2000TC followed (I saw a rather sorry one on Aldeburgh sea front last year). Then came a couple of Cortina Ghias, a Mazda Montrose Coupe and finally a Mazda 626. After my father died I took the Mazda back home; it had over 100k on the clock, but it drove as sweet as a nut; sold for £300, a good buy.
Seeing the mention of the Consul Capri reminds me of the car we had during our first tour in RAFG, it was a Ford Classic, the saloon version of the Capri; ours was the 1500cc version. A couple of years ago, whilst on holiday, we fell into conversation with another couple; they were avid F1 fans and followed the races round Europe. I mentioned we had driven on part of the Spa Francorchamps circuit in our Classic; he didn't believe me - he maintained the circuit is closed to the public. Well, it wasn't in 1969, part of the circuit was the normal highway, just like Monaco, but he wouldn't have it. Furthermore, because he didn't know about the Classic, there was no such car, I must have been mistaken. By this time I was getting a bit irritated, Mrs SB was nudging me under the table to keep my cool and trying to change the subject. We thought it best to drink up and say good night. It irks me still.

Slow Biker 21st Mar 2021 21:54


Originally Posted by exeng (Post 11013518)
Nut Loose,

I owned a V4 Corsair back in the early 70's. So they definitely existed - don't think there was ever a V4 Capri though. The Corsair was for me at the time quite a luxury ride.

kind regards
Exeng

I also had a Corsair, and like exeng it was luxury, it could even go up a slight hill without the need to change down. At the time it was the best car we had owned.

Effluent Man 21st Mar 2021 22:31

The 2litre V4 was fitted to the Corsair 2000E, Mk4 Zephyr and the Transit. A german built 1.5 V4 went into the Taunus and Saab 95/6.

Quite a few cars would go uphill without changing down but that was because cars were routinely under geared. Typically 15mph per thousand rpm. Today that figure would be nearer 25.

5000 metres 21st Mar 2021 22:52

1970 Jag XKE
1972 Buick Riviera boattail
1975 Chevy Corvette

We were squarely in the middle middle class and to this day it’s a deep mystery how Dad managed to acquire these vehicles. I got my driver license just in time to put a few cherished miles on the 75 Vette.

Edit: There's a story! I forgot. One night I obtained permission from Dad to borrow the Vette to drive to a band gig (5Km was bassist in 70s funk band); gig at a hotel. Parked Vette in hotel garage. Midway into Brick House (Commodores, 1977) a member of the hotel staff interrupted our groove to announce to the crowd that a white Chevy Corvette had just been reported by garage staff as "exiting w/o authorization." Dad's white Vette! So much for cherished miles. But: within an hour, police turned up at hotel--needless to say, the show had gone on--with the astonishing news that the thief was apprehended on his way out of town, Vette intact, all good, miraculous save; only one problem: thief claimed that the ounce of marijuana in the center console wasn't his but was in the car when he broke in. Cops to me: "That wasn't your marijuana, was it?" Me to officers: "Huh. Of course not." Drove home, returned the keys to Dad, said nothing (fear of losing Vette privileges), life went on. Footnote: six weeks later, 5Km is groggy and red-eyed at breakfast table after night of driving around in borrowed Vette attempting to impress with combination of Vette + ganja. Whoops. Dad who'd just left in the Vette for his (mysterious) morning commute had turned right back around. He reentered the kitchen with a grim disgusted look and dropped a baggie full of ganja on the breakfast table, not saying a word. Bless him for not saying a word but that was the end of privileges.



wowzz 22nd Mar 2021 00:28


Originally Posted by exeng (Post 11013518)
Nut Loose,

I owned a V4 Corsair back in the early 70's. So they definitely existed - don't think there was ever a V4 Capri though. The Corsair was for me at the time quite a luxury ride.

kind regards
Exeng

I too had a Corsair, around 1970, when I was a student at Lancaster University. Enormous engine compartment, with a tiny motor in it! But, from memory, it went pretty well, and could easily accommodate 6 students all wearing Afghan coats!

Tankertrashnav 22nd Mar 2021 02:09

Dad was a superintendent in the AA so he always had a staff car provided by them. The very first one I remember was an Austin A40 Devon. I have good reason to remember it because when I was only two I fell out of the back seat when the door swung open as he pulled away. Luckily he hadn't got any speed up so I wasn't hurt. No seat belts front or back or child seats in those days of course.

n5296s 22nd Mar 2021 03:13

We were too poor to buy a car (lived in a shoebox etc). But when I was about 8 my Dad got a job as a sort of travelling salesman cum delivery driver in the clothing trade. He had a succession of vans, starting with a bright orange minivan and then a series of Fords based on the 105E Anglia. They all carried garish adverts on the side for the company's products - long forgotten British manufacturers of zips and cotton. He was allowed to drive them privately as long as he paid for petrol, so sometimes we would go out en famille for drives in the country or occasionally to visit my grandmother in Harwich, from our home in East London. The Fords were seriously minimal, they had no heater nor even a passenger seat. My mother sat on a shelf at the front of the cargo area, and my brother and I sat in the back. Safety? Wossat?

On winter mornings they wouldn't start, like most cars of the era. Our street became a sort of cooperative where all the drivers were helping each other push cars up and down to try to start them. The Fords also had starting handles, which occasionally worked. I remember especially the cold, snowy winter of 62/63.

My uncle was rather better off. His first car, in the late 50s, was a pre-war Morris 8, with the very apt registration OLD 8. Later he replaced it with an early 50s Standard 10, WUR 224 (why do we remember these things?). A few months later he was driving across Vauxhall Bridge when he was rear-ended by... OLD 8.

longer ron 22nd Mar 2021 08:52

You have just reminded me of the noise of many old Ford cars cranking whilst trying to achieve a cold start :)
Cured by somebody inventing the Ballast Resistor to give a big fat spark whilst cranking :)

Arnie Madsen 22nd Mar 2021 09:35

1954 Chevrolet BelAir
125 hp 6 cylinder engine
Power brakes and Powerglide 2 speed automatic transmission

Power brakes and automatic transmissions were recent options in that era .
Normal engine horsepower was 115 but with the Powerglide option it was boosted to 125 hp which was the same engine used in the early Corvettes

Solid car , never had a squeak or rattle in the body , a bit slow on takeoff but could cruise all day on the highway at 60 mph and get 22 mpg

Price was about $2,300 new , gasoline was about 25 cents a gallon.

.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....aac9408ab0.jpg

ShyTorque 22nd Mar 2021 09:38


Originally Posted by exeng (Post 11013518)
Nut Loose,

I owned a V4 Corsair back in the early 70's. So they definitely existed - don't think there was ever a V4 Capri though. The Corsair was for me at the time quite a luxury ride.

kind regards
Exeng

There definitely was a V4 Capri, the 1969-70 2000 GT had a 2 litre V4 engine, before they fitted the later V6. An RAF colleague and friend of mine had one in gold with the vinyl roof. Quite a quick car for its time.

Uplinker 22nd Mar 2021 09:45

Is this thread one of those ways to find out answers to security questions, like the one about your first pet's name and your mother's maiden name ? :)

Effluent Man 22nd Mar 2021 10:49


Originally Posted by exeng (Post 11013518)
Nut Loose,

I owned a V4 Corsair back in the early 70's. So they definitely existed - don't think there was ever a V4 Capri though. The Corsair was for me at the time quite a luxury ride.


kind regards
Exeng

My guess is that we are talking at cross purposes. The original post opened " Consul Capri" which led me to assume we were talking the coupe version of the Consul Classic, which indeed did gave the cut back rear window like the 105e Anglia. I had forgotten that the V4 was used briefly in the later car before the 2 litre Kent engine came out.

treadigraph 22nd Mar 2021 10:52

I was asked to come up with a different security question like that the other day - tricky! I remember being asked some years ago what the answer to my security question was for some account or other and I asked what the question was. "We don't have that info..." Doh.. Got it third time... (first pet's name!).

Sorry, four wheel thread drift there...

Ninthace 22nd Mar 2021 10:56

Father had a brief sojourn with a 194? Hillman Minx but it did not last long as it won no prizes for reliability. One day, returning from a trip to the seaside the seam in the radiator header tank split. Dad moulded some mud from a roadside ditch along the seam, refilled the tank and we drove home with the radiator cap loose. By the time we arrived, the mud had baked nicely. A repair right up there with the ladies stocking fan belt.

Arnie Madsen 23rd Mar 2021 06:48


Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav (Post 11013626)
Dad was a superintendent in the AA so he always had a staff car provided by them. The very first one I remember was an Austin A40 Devon. I have good reason to remember it because when I was only two I fell out of the back seat when the door swung open as he pulled away. Luckily he hadn't got any speed up so I wasn't hurt. No seat belts front or back or child seats in those days of course.

I had a friend Ken who inherited his dads 1933 ford coupe with suicide doors
Well maintained and he and his wife would take it out for Sunday drives.
Decided to take it around the perimeter highway in Winnipeg to blow the carbon out at 60mph
His 3 year old daughter stood on the floor in front of mom trying to see over the dash
Child grabbed the door handle for support , door opened and flung the kid outside.
Ken hit the brakes and watched in his mirror , kid was rolling down the highway , by the time the car stopped she had rolled right up beside it , he couldnt beleive it ... she was still alive and was trying to stand up on her own.
Took her to the hospital , no broken bones , just some bad skin bruises that all healed up .... the doctor said it was like the kid was made of rubber.

ShyTorque 23rd Mar 2021 08:51

My uncle had an early Morris 1000 Minor. It had no seat belts. When I was about four or five years old I was out with him, sitting on the back seat. For some reason, approaching a junction he had cause to jam on the brakes. I shot forward, hit the passenger seat back, which was designed to fold, which it did. I continued head first over the folded seat and ended up in the passenger footwell. I think it must have shaken him up more than me because that’s the only time I remember being in that car.

treadigraph 23rd Mar 2021 10:37

Vague recollection of one of the girls falling out of the tail door of our school Landrover - think it might have been during our geology field expedition to the Isle of Wight in the upper sixth. Totally unhurt... I'd forgotten about it until reading of others' exploits! I can even see her face, lovely blonde girl, can't remember her name now... :{

Kiltrash 23rd Mar 2021 18:10

Shy, similar on that about 5 was a front seat passenger in a Uncles car, he hit the breaks and my nose broke on the hard dashboard. Never been the same since. Think I was taken to hospital. . Seat belts best car invention ever.

Loose rivets 24th Mar 2021 04:06

My dad did get me a car. One had to peddle it, which was handy as there was no petrol for civilians. I don't talk about his cars cos he didn't come back after the war. He didn't die, he just didn't come back.

We set out with the Mk10 one wintry night with the toddlers in the back. Three of them. I tied the back doors with a sturdy rope over boot/rear screen as there were no child locks.

Can't believe they sold E-Types without seat belts. The 3.8 was the fastest car I've ever owned, though the later toys were limited to 155.

I had a full harness on the front seats of my MkII. Purchased about 1965 in like new condition. I got caught out by the perspective of a country road hump back bridge which just fitted the edges and hid the bump. Always going too fast. Had that aaaaaaaargh moment, so just hung on. Then felt the shoulder straps biting. Soooo glad someone had had the sense to fit them. So glad I was a pilot - did a beautiful landing. :p


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