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bob johns 13th May 2012 13:21

bob johns
 
Further to my previous post when the Red Wh--E and the Whine Swine get the flick they will more than likely be appointed to the UN as Australian delegates ,get their snouts firmly into the trough of international largesse and make more mischief for Australia than they do now. This will continue to occur until Australia stops this mob of parasites interfering in Australias domestic affairs. The UN . Sink of corruption, at worst,traveling cocktail party at best and somehing we cant bloody well afford.

sisemen 13th May 2012 13:38

That scenario is hardly likely Bob.

For a start Rudd has got his feet so far under that table that it would take dynamite to remove him and, given his enmity with Gillard and Swan, he's hardly likely to let either of them take a UN role - and the Coalition will undoubtedly accede to his wishes.

What is more likely is that the pair of them will "retire" to the roles that they do best in a more "civilian" environment. McDonalds will undoubtedly welcome Swanny's expertise at the drive through counter and Gillard will obviously do well as the mail clerk at the Ministry of Incompetence. However, the danger is that it may extend the personal qualities of the pair.

bob johns 13th May 2012 14:07

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siseman . thanks for that ,but Why do we need , clapped out ,embittered ex pollies doing ANY thing at That Sewer(sorry, UN ) we dont need that shower of shit dictating to us, who would be one of the best countries in the world(or at least it was when I was growing up)before Goofy and political correctness fcuked this place up. This place is wide open to a take over;or a give up and hope it dont hurt too much . Ill bet the old Diggers will be spinning in their graves if they could see the gutless surrender of ,our principles, our culture , and , god forbid, our nation .--Rant over

Clare Prop 13th May 2012 14:52

Abbott's reply to the budget.



ABC iview

Lex Talionis 14th May 2012 01:26


Pauline Hanson and David Etteridge were GAOLED ( and subsequently aquitted ----charges quashed as WRONG )
Bob just to clarify things a little.

Were you in favour of Pauline Hanson being GAOLED [sic] or that she was later acquitted?

and this unmitigated filth continues to infest our leadership (?) A pox on the lot of them.!
By this statement are you referring to the extent Mr Abbott had to play in the downfall of Pauline Hanson or the denial from Mr Abbott that he was not involved with any financial deal to support legal action against Pauline Hanson.
Bob you might want to read this article
It seems as though several Liberals keep changing their mind when being questioned as to the veracity of their statements.
Howard Minister Mal Brough like current opposition member Pyne have changed their recollection of events when questioned as well.
Bob I agree with you that the standards of politics in this country is abysmal but that it is on both sides of politics and not just the ALP.

My fear is that when Labor loses the next election and Mr Abbott is the PM it will be a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire for all of us.

sisemen 14th May 2012 01:31

Well, at least we'll be charred and not covered in boiling oil.

Lex Talionis 14th May 2012 01:33


Well, at least we'll be charred and not covered in boiling oil.
More like cremated if Mr Abbott continues as he has done since he entered politics.

BandAide 14th May 2012 01:35


My fear is that when Labor loses the next election and Mr Abbott is the PM it will be a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire for all of us.
Don't fret. It'll be a case of out of the frying pan and into the cool stream of responsible government. If you're sanguine, you'll enjoy the improvement.

Howard Hughes 14th May 2012 01:45


Don't fret. It'll be a case of out of the frying pan and into the cool stream of responsible government.
Unless of course Mr Abbott gets into Government, realises what a fine stream of funds the carbon tax provides and then renegs on his promise!:eek:

We'll be right back where we started...;)

Lex Talionis 14th May 2012 02:04


We'll be right back where we started...
Spot on Howard and as we all know about Mr Abbotts idea of core and non core promises which is a little trick he learnt from his old Boss JH.

Mr Abbott has a lot of money to find for his promises and as yet he has not told us where he will get the money from just as he failed to do in the run up to the last election.

Andu 14th May 2012 03:33

Can you enlighten me, Lex? Why the (sic) after 'GAOLED'? American spell checker?

Meanwhile, yet another boat arrived yesterday, taking it to over 560 for the week. WaY-ne's soopa budget was factored on an irregular immigrant arrival rate of 450 a month.

Edited to ad: Oops, sorry, I'm guilty if hyperbowl :) . It's 556 (according to the Andrew Bolt bl*g) or 472 "in less than a week" according to the article below. Maybe the "over 560" figure I heard on the radio included crew?

Flow of illegal boats to Australia becomes an armada | thetelegraph.com.au


THIS year is shaping up as the biggest ever for illegal boat arrivals after the navy yesterday intercepted the fifth vessel in six days.

The arrival of 99 asylum seekers and two crew northeast of Christmas Island came less than 24 hours after a vessel carrying 60 people was intercepted north-northwest of Ashmore Island.

Including the arrival of 311 people on three boats last Sunday, that means 472 asylum seekers and crew have been caught trying to reach Australian shores in less than a week.

So far this year, 35 boats have arrived, carrying 2753 people. The calendar year record, set in 2010, is 6889.

Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said 2012 was " trending as the biggest ever for arrivals".

"This financial year is already the largest on record with over 5800 people arriving - with seven weeks still to go," he said.

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen again blamed the opposition, saying the latest vessel was the 30th since the Coalition refused the government's offer to work together to stop the flow.

RJM 14th May 2012 03:51


My fear is that when Labor loses the next election and Mr Abbott is the PM it will be a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire for all of us.
Lex, I read your posts. You make some good points and some bad, and I think you sell Abbott short. Ignore the mantra that Abbott is an unpopular, negative idiot who has a problem with women, and consider his recent budget in reply speech as evidence of his suitability for the job of PM.


You probably won't enjoy it, but ignore the 'hear hear's and compare the substance of it with Gillard's usual efforts, which are full of attacks on Abbott and tactical pleas and denials aimed at recovering a few votes.


GAOLED [sic]
'gaol' (UK) = 'jail' (US)

bob johns 14th May 2012 04:14

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Both sides of politics had blood on their hands over the gaoling of Hanson and Etteridge. Not a good look for either side and particularly Beattie and his tame judge (I would bet that there would never be a Royal Commission into that)To what amounted to them being Australias first political prisoners. The purpose of my post was not to discuss those two but to emphasise what I percieve to be a double standard when ALP pollies get caught with their pants down hand in the till or whatever crime or perversion they get caught in (and god only knows how many more that aint been caught yet) any one remember All Grassby and how Goofy put out a trough for him when he got the flick from his seat ? I hate to say it but I too am afraid that the incoming govt wont be able to help themselves with the cash inflow from the carbon tax we have just got to hold them to their promise to repeal it ,any way the way this shower of sh!t in CB are going they might not last long enough to seeit in ( I wish)

Lex Talionis 14th May 2012 04:43

Bob,I could not agree more that we are being let down by politicians from both sides but my point here is to show that Mr Abbott is just as duplicitous as Gillard and any other politician.

We will not be out of the woods when Labor is thrown out,not by a long shot.The problem here is that so many only see the problem as belonging to the ALP and that Mr Abbott is some kind of saviour and above the same kind of tricks that we see on a day to day basis.
Mr Abbott has been caught out many times yet all I see here is that only Labor is guilty of this sort of behaviour.

Unrepentant yesterday when he spoke to the Herald, Abbott now says sorry for responding to Deborah Snow's request for the reason he lied to the ABC with: "Misleading the ABC is not quite the same as misleading the parliament as a political crime."

Abbott last night: "It is not acceptable to mislead the public. I should not have responded flippantly to the SMH's question and I am sorry that I did so."
I too am unimpressed with the performance of the ALP but cannot see any difference in the opposition.
RJM,can you explain to me why so many people were unimpressed with Mr Abbots reply to the budget apart from you and his being caught out not telling the truth on a number of occasions.
So many here delight in being critical of Gillard,her accent,her whatever but the thought of Abbott walking around representing us is a nightmare.

The problem is that the only real alternative to Abbott is Hockey and I admire his attempts to stop the constant muckraking but in a lot of ways he is a lot like Peter Costello in that I don't think he has the fortitude to put his hand up for the job.

The other problem here is that so many seem to be content to forget the recent past.They will go on and on about Peter Slipper and the way it is being handled by Gillard and what she is doing to save herself.

The problem is that they will not want to remember the Mal Colston affair.

The Liberals lured Labor's Mal Colston to rat in the Senate with the offer of the deputy president's job. Colston accepted, but was forced to stand down from the chair when his former party brought allegations of rorting his travel allowances against him.

But unlike Slipper in the House of Representatives, Colston still had a vote in the Senate. For a while Howard virtuously rejected it, but then found he needed it and grabbed it – at a time when Colston, unlike Slipper or Thomson, had actually been charged with defrauding the government and was awaiting trial.

Howard's excuse? Well, the man was entitled to the presumption of innocence, wasn't he?

Andu,RJM,Sisemen any sense of déjà vu gentlemen ? :E

sisemen 14th May 2012 08:02


Andu,RJM,Sisemen any sense of déjà vu gentlemen
Nah. Seen it all before.


We will not be out of the woods when Labor is thrown out,not by a long shot
And why would that be Lex? Mayhap because this shower of scheissen has led us so far into the woods that it will be bloody difficult to get out of them?


I too am unimpressed with the performance of the ALP
Certainly not what you, your previous incarnations or your compatriots were used to saying.

CoodaShooda 14th May 2012 08:31

Lex
Just out of interest, what has labor done to earn your apparent support?

I have significant reservations about a liberal government's potential to deliver; particularly when you factor in the level of debt they will inherit.

But to allow labor to continue to grow the debt while using the loans to buy votes just makes no sense to me.

Lex Talionis 14th May 2012 09:11


And why would that be Lex? Mayhap because this shower of scheissen has led us so far into the woods that it will be bloody difficult to get out of them?
It's simple sisemen,the scheißen as you so eloquently put it inhabits the opposition to the same degree as it does the ALP.That's what I meant by the cliche of 'Out of the frying pan and into the fire'.
I've given a number of examples of Liberal politicians not telling the truth to the same degree as you say the ALP does but most here tend to ignore those facts and instead ask why I support Labor.
The answer is that I don't support Labor and if you had read my previous posts you would see that.

Andu,RJM,Sisemen any sense of déjà vu gentlemen
Nah. Seen it all before.
So you do remember the Mal Colston affair :E

I have significant reservations about a liberal government's potential to deliver; particularly when you factor in the level of debt they will inherit.
Just out of interest Cooda,what would you do if the budget is in surplus?
I don't know if it will but for a moment assume that it is.
What will you do then?
Would you support a government that has turned a deficit into a surplus even if it was a Labor government?
Can you explain the difference between the Mal Colston affair and the Peter Slipper debacle?

But to allow labor to continue to grow the debt while using the loans to buy votes just makes no sense to me.
Cooda,what government does not buy votes with a budget?

Abbott tried to do it at the last election and he is still promising things to a certain section of the community which support the Liberals.

My point is as it has been all through my life is to vote for the party that will be the least damaging because in my experience they are all in it for themselves.

Andu 14th May 2012 10:05

Lex, I don't think I'm the only one by a long shot on the right wing reactionary side of politics who would be very - make that extremely - happy if Tony Abbott put himself in front of a microphone tomorrow and said something along the lines of: "Because of the size of the debt we will inherit from Labor, (or pick any excuse - or, (gasp!), don't even make one), I have to break a policy promise that I made earlier. Australia cannot afford my promised full pay maternity leave plan so I withdraw this promise."

HotDog 14th May 2012 10:53


My point is as it has been all through my life is to vote for the party that will be the least damaging because in my experience they are all in it for themselves.
You have obviously got it wrong last time.:ugh:

RJM 14th May 2012 11:22


...the thought of Abbott walking around representing us is a nightmare.
Yeah? How about the nightmare of the leader of the Greens getting her paws anywhere near the levers of power? Remember that Gillard gave the Greens $10 billion to...er...well, $10 billion not to support the Libs. :rolleyes:


gobbledock 14th May 2012 12:04

Please, a tissue for the poor hard done Pollies
 
I love how the SMH on Sunday had a big spread showing Shorten parading around happily with the Governors daughter! Truly a marriage made in heaven. Shame on all those rumor starters saying he knocked up his P.A.

The best bit was Shorten, even Fat Boy Hockey saying, pleading that their families be 'off limits', asking that families not be 'hurt'!
Well I hate to tell these political parasites this but you worthless pigs have made things very personal with OUR families! We are struggling to pay a mortgage, the cost of living is rising, you political trough dwelling grubs continue to rape the taxpayer purse to pay for your own perks and luxurious lifestyles we get shat on..sorry you swine but your inept managing of our economy, spineless inaction on banks and corporate greed and self serving conduct effects MY family every day, and they and I suffer as a result.

So you want it all your way do you, public anonymity for your family so as to make their lives wonderful, free of pain and pampered to all ends of the earth? Nah, screw you all, your lives may be wealthy but I hope the rest of the crap that is heaped upon you makes all that money a curse.
You are all a scurge. You get no political vote or sympathy vote from me.

bob johns 14th May 2012 21:33

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HEAR HEAR Siseman and so say all of us

Lex Talionis 14th May 2012 21:57

Here's a challenge to see if anyone here would actually like to have a political discussion and not just a lambasting of a political party.

Let's talk about the similarities or not of the Slipper debacle and the Mal Colston affair.

To me it is only the latest example of a political party willing or desperate enough to stay in power and is exactly what John Howard did when he was in need of an extra vote.It shows that politicians are not interested in what is good for the country but themselves.

parabellum 14th May 2012 22:58


the Liberal government led by an arrogant man lost in 2007.
The only problem I see is that an even more arrogant man (If that is possible) is likely to win the next election and we will find ourselves back where we were before
Oh bliss, back where we were before, no significant debt, a real budget surplus, an immigration policy that did stop the boats, no carbon tax on the horizon, not a $23 a ton one, anyway, no outdated National broadband using outdated technology, the list goes on and on!

Worrals in the wilds 15th May 2012 00:09


Let's talk about the similarities or not of the Slipper debacle and the Mal Colston affair.
Sure, there are plenty. They're both self serving spivs who have variously supported both parties for their own ends. Both parties were complicit in that. Of course a lot of Qld Libs were very happy to be rid of Slipper. It's also why they were moving to disendorse him. Unfortunately I don't know enough about Colston to take up your challenge but I'm sure they're as bad as each other and the Libs were as happy to welcome Colston into the fold as the ALP were with Slipper.

However, Slipper is not the only problem the ALP have to deal with. I think Slipper on his own would have been nothing more than a week's amusement for the press, with maybe a slight drop in that week's polls. The trouble is, they've also got Thomson, who along with the executive of the HSU is a disgrace to the party and the union movement :yuk:, and yet still has Gillard's support.

Decent union organizers are copping jibes all over town thanks to him and the HSU. This is not conductive to good vibrations from the party faithful at the ballot box.

Then there's the Carbon Tax that prior to the election the PM herself promised wouldn't happen. Compare that to the GST which was successfully run as an election promise. A similar situation with asset sales cost the Qld ALP a hell of a lot of grass roots support, and where the CT is arguably worse is that asset sales weren't actually mentioned prior to the election. This was and people are dirty about it. Abbott's not just making that up.

There are still about 25% of Australians who are core supporters, as there are probably a similar number of core Liberal voters. I would respectfully put both you and Sisemen in this category. If the Liberal Party was floundering the same as the ALP is at the moment, no doubt we'd all still be on here chewing the cud and your positions would be reversed. In a few years that may be exactly what happens.

These voters do not win or lose elections because they vote the same way every time. It's the swinging voters that actually decide most seats and from what I see, they're pretty unhappy with the ALP at the moment. In addition, a lot of formerly Labor faithful are also quietly pissed off (even if they don't admit it in public, though a growing number are starting to) and that's when an election defeat turns into a drubbing.

It is exactly what happened to Howard's last government and why they got trounced at the ballot box. When a party stops listening to its ordinary supporters its chances at the next election are zero. Howard learned this the hard way and I believe Gillard and Co will learn the same thing soon enough.


You think you are the only person who has watched politics in Australia or anywhere for that matter.The only people I see who have a visceral and indeed a pathological hatred for Labor are the ones here who admit it.
You should come up to Queensland and talk to people.
There is a massive sense of betrayal amongst grass roots Labor people at the moment. Nor do they like Gillard; they think she's weak and dishonest.

Read Richo and you can hear the genuine anger in some of his columns. IME his views are the same as a lot of Labor supporters; they don't have a hatred of Labor itself (far from it), but a hatred of the current leadership and their student union cronies, the spivs who have infested the NSW Labor right and treated union funds as a personal piggy bank and the people with no integrity, the people running the show at the moment who have the nerve to call themselves workers when in fact they bought their first ever pair of steel capped boots for a Ministerial photo op at the local abbatoir (and then spent the whole time trying not to :yuk: and asking stupid stuff like 'so what do you do with all the cow feathers :rolleyes:'?.

So Colston's as bad as Slipper? For sure, but the Labor Party is supposed to be better than that. :( In the eyes of a lot of grass roots supporters; they're supposed to be the good guys. IMHO they will be punished for betraying that promise.

HotDog 15th May 2012 01:02

Colston is long dead and buried, Slipper and Thomson are alive and enjoy the covert protection of the Labor government, who are fighting for their political lives.:yuk:

RJM 15th May 2012 01:09

Despite 'all politicians being spivs' etc - which may be true but hardly constitutes an argument - there is a good way to compare any two governments. Compare the deficit they leave behind them for the next lot.

So, in what shape will Labor leave the country at the next election? About $300 billion in debt, apparently. An absolute record and many times more than the last time the Libs had to clean up after Labor.

That should be enough to determine your vote, regardless of personal behaviour etc.

david1300 15th May 2012 01:39

@Worrals - another good post :ok:

Andu 15th May 2012 01:50

Sadly, RJM, history will repeat itself yet again when and after the Libs take over.

The measures the Libs will be forced to introduce to pay for the last five years of profligate spending and gross mismanagement - (imagine how bad the debt would be if we weren't 'the best economy in the Western world', Lex) - will bite deeply into many peoples' back pockets. Many - particularly those who've been feasting on the Labor gravy train - won't like it, and memories being short, the swinging voters will swing yet again and fall for the promises of Labor and vote 'em in again, and the cycle will continue.

What was the comment that came out during the recent French election (where they're just entered the cycle we entered back in 2007)? "The biggest problem we have is that the people who work for a living are outnumbered by people who vote for a living."

That is exactly what Gillard and Co are attempting to implement here with all the handouts they're dishing out. Alexander Tyler said it way back in the 1870s. (To paraphrase): history has shown that democracies have about a 200 years life. They are doomed the moment the voter realises he can vote himself more money from the public treasury than he puts in - and there will always be politicians out there willing to promise him he will give him that money for nothing.

Andu 15th May 2012 02:02

"Irregular Immigrant Shipping Lines would like to announce the arrival of SEIV 355, the daily scheduled service into the Promised Land from Java and all points west. Passengers can pick up their free housing and lifelong government handouts from carousel 3."

Navy intercepts boat carrying 123 | thetelegraph.com.au


AAP May 15

THE navy has intercepted a vessel carrying 121 suspected asylum seekers off Christmas Island.

Patrol boat HMAS Glenelg made contact after it sought assistance northwest of the island on Monday night, home affairs minister Jason Clare said.

"HMAS Glenelg provided assistance to the vessel," he said today.

There were 121 passengers and two crew on board.

The persons will be taken to Christmas Island, where they will undergo security, health and identity checks and their reasons for travel will be established.

sisemen 15th May 2012 02:06

http://www.kudelka.com.au/wordpress/...OZED110913.jpg

Buster Hyman 15th May 2012 02:10

Just been told that 1 in 3 Victorian Public Servants will be going. Mostly Contractors & Fixed term staff, but Voluntary packages are being drawn up.

Now, I can accept that there is an argument that the Libs are being opportunistic here, but it just goes to show how fiscally bad the ALP are. :ugh:

Worrals in the wilds 15th May 2012 03:09


Just been told that 1 in 3 Victorian Public Servants will be going. Mostly Contractors & Fixed term staff, but Voluntary packages are being drawn up.
Wow :eek:. Were there really a third too many public servants? I can't see how you could cut a third of the staff and not have some impact on frontline services...
Thanks for the background, Sisemen. I don't have an issue with core supporters; everyone is entitled to their POV and most people support one party either all or most of the time.

Buster Hyman 15th May 2012 04:51

There, arguably, were Worrals.

There is a concession, and that is Frontline staff Can be replaced. It's the one's hiding away in dark offices that will bear the brunt.

Worrals in the wilds 15th May 2012 06:11

Sisemen; likewise. I wasn't having a go either. :ok:

Years ago, several bushy cousins voted for the Queensland Nationals in the 1989 election after Joh and Co had been outed by the Fitzgerald Inquiry, despite the rest of us laughing at them loudly :E. So did 24% of the state's voters. This was after the former Police Commissioner and two former ministers were jailed, and JBP and Hinze only escaped trials by respectively being 1. too old and 2. dead.

The same number (approximately 25%) cropped up again in the recent election but in reverse, with Labor getting 26% of the primary vote. In the 2011 NSW election (another declared wipeout) Labor retained 25% of the vote.

Maybe it's a state thing but it says to me that the baseline of diehards (ie people who will vote for a particular major party whatever the policies) is about 25%.

Federal elections traditionally have a much smaller swing. Even with Howard's trouncing in 07 the Coalition retained 47% of the vote. Possibly more people vote federally on party lines and the magic number may be closer to 45%. Certainly even in the famous 'landslide' federal elections where a number of seats fell (such as 2007, 1996, 1983 and 1975) the less favoured party still retained at least 43% of the vote. Of course the federal seats are held by much tighter margins and a five percent swing can have a big impact on the seat tally.

The figures suggest that a lot more people vote on party lines federally than at the state level, and I don't know why that would be :confused:. Maybe voters feel the federal government is too important to leave to the 'enemy' (no matter how badly their own team is performing), or inversely, maybe people don't get as engaged by federal issues and mostly just rock up and tick the box Dear Ol' Dad did :zzz:, or maybe there's another reason. Dunno...

Obviously it's not an exhaustive study. Victoria seems to have much milder swings, and I didn't look at the other states.


It's the one's hiding away in dark offices that will bear the brunt.
Great, a rudderless ship. We're now looking forward to that in Queensland...:hmm: Having seen the results at the federal level before, I always worry about the baby/bathwater effect when governments start trumpeting about public service cuts. They always claim that the front line won't be affected but often it doesn't turn out that way. Some of the 'all talk no substance' types can hang on like limpets.

RJM 15th May 2012 08:09

So it's not just a matter of breaking out the popcorn and settling back. We'd be wise to fasten our (five point) seat belts as well.

Worrals in the wilds 15th May 2012 10:31

Can they hear the music...:\
Pretty songs by pretty people about solidarity, allegedly the song of the movement. No doubt the elite loved it.
Personally I thought the song of the movement was more of a chant, didn't really have a tune and doesn't lend itself to Footy Final worthy renditions with lots of vibrato and arm waving. Seven words repeated by a bunch of angry, desperate people don't easily translate to a So You Want To Be a Prat style showstopper. :bored:

Pretty words about how the ACTU and the PM think rorting is Disgusting, even though the PM continues to accept his vote and the ACTU accepted the HSU's operating rules (loosely summarised as 'hop in, fellahs'!) without question.

Pretty excuses about how the decline in union membership is due to the increase in casual employees and fixed term contracts, and nothing to do with widespread community disgust about standover tactics, rorting and favours. And don't forget Big Nasty Howard.

Guess what, comrades in chief? Maybe the casuals were the people you should have been targeting. IME they're the people who are most insecure about their conditions and rights, and they're the people the ACTU didn't want to know. :yuk: Not proper workers, apparently, even when they wanted to join up.

Pretty denials from Ged Kearney on The Project about how the union movement is really going well, despite hemorrhaging numbers and being about as popular with the community as herpes, though apparently not nearly as catching. :ooh: Maybe she got the hint when the whole panel laughed at her, and they're all fairly pro Labor.

Cookies must be enabled | Herald Sun

Thomson scandal to overshadow ACTU Congress - Yahoo!7

Pretty.
Pretty :mad:ing lame. :sad:

Clare Prop 15th May 2012 11:20

What do we want? A general election!
When do we want it? NOW!

MTOW 15th May 2012 22:48

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian


JULIA Gillard has conceded that her government is in political trouble but blamed a "relentless" fear campaign by Tony Abbott and the media's failure to report her achievements.

The Prime Minister has also implored unions to help ease voter concern over the carbon tax and cost of living pressures, urging Labor's industrial wing not to allow the political pressure to lead to a "council of despair".
I'm reminded of that often parodied bunker scene in the Hitler movie where Adolph is moving non-existent divisions around the map in a vain attempt to stave off Zukov's attacking armies.

Now that would be a hoot; someone doing the Hitler rant scene with a Julia voiceover. ("Naow, everyone who voated for Kevin, leaaave the rooam.")

Worrals in the wilds 15th May 2012 22:52


Now that would be a hoot; someone doing the Hitler rant scene with a Julia voiceover. ("Naow, everyone who voated for Kevin, leaaave the rooam.")
Off you go then. We're all looking forward to it now! :ok::cool:
I'm fluent in bogan and can to the voiceover if you send me the script. :E


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