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Flying Binghi 13th Jun 2013 01:26


I see that Arnold Swartznegger and Julia Gillard will be on stage together in Perth ("Perf") this morning.
Heh, high farce... Gillard gets in a (confected) lather about a tit and butt joke restaurant menu one day, then the next day she meets Swartzenegger the groper...

Bing or google search - "gropegate, Swartznegger" ...:)

While yer at it Bing/google - "Record deficit, California, Swartzenegger"



Looks like Swartzneggers mate Al Gore and the bankers are getting worried about the future of their 'carbon' profiteering racket when yer see Swartznegger gettin despached south..:hmm:

Bing search - "Gore, Swartznegger" (note - Gore is involved with google)







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sisemen 13th Jun 2013 01:34

What's the betting that the news vision tonight shows Dullard giggling like a schoolgirl in the presence of The Terminator?

Ascend Charlie 13th Jun 2013 02:31

When did they pass a law against insulting somebody?? I must remember to sue Paul Keating for calling me an unrepresentative scumbag.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones,
the offender gets only a warning,
But call me a name and my lawyer will have
A new Mercedes by morning.":sad:

CoodaShooda 13th Jun 2013 03:08

That'll be the Roxon Law that got canned, AC.

But at least we know where they stand on the subject.

chuboy 13th Jun 2013 06:06


Originally Posted by 500N (Post 7888620)
What is the need to have every school in the Country teaching the same thing ?

Are the states not virtually doing the same thing anyway ? or close to it ?

I'm a little late to respond to this one admittedly but as Andu noted, different schools teaching different things to kids of the same age makes it very difficult for them to change schools.

You should also expect that a student who finishes year 12 in the NT will have been taught just the same as they would in inner Sydney. At the moment this is not the case. There has been some unification of secondary school curricula with the introduction of the ATAR for high school leavers. As I understand it every state except QLD now uses this system to rank their student's performance, but there are still discrepancies between what each state teaches their kids. VIC, QLD and NSW, as an example, all have very different maths curricula. A student might have to take a higher level maths course in one state to learn something that gets taught to all students in a different state.

What justification is there for having a patchwork of ability levels which are solely dependent on which state (or which part of the state) you had to send you kids to? Given the increased administration overhead of managing eight different curricula, you'd need a pretty good argument against teaching all the kids the same thing.

In saying that...

Variables
- how are you going to get all teachers in all areas to the same level ?
- Forget Aboriginal schools for a start. Other more important things to work
on like attendance before teaching them anything !
...these are perfectly valid points and realities of life. Special schools and rural schools are always going to have different needs to mainstream ones. There isn't any reason why you can't address the issue the same way the states do now, using a special curriculum. Having a national curriculum doesn't mean you're teaching calculus to youngsters who can barely speak. It just means that no matter which school they attend they will be taught the same thing.

Getting teachers up to scratch is bigger issue and one which requires a lot of something the government doesn't have - money! But, in principle there isn't any reason why you can't maintain a fleet of competent teachers. You just need to be very strict about the minimum aptitude necessary to teach (obviously considering whether they will be going into primary or secondary school), and offer enough cash to persuade the good candidates out of their currently-better-paying jobs and into schools.

Like many facets of government, education could do with a restructure. Don't think that's high on anyone's list at the moment though.

As for your remarks about schools in indigenous communities, well that is indicative of a larger problem but those are an extreme case, requiring consideration separate from the majority of institutions. It's not really fair to hold back the vast majority of children living in major centres on the basis of less than a few hundred indigenous children living in the sticks.

500N 13th Jun 2013 06:36

Thanks to all for taking the time to respond :ok:

Have a better understanding of it all now and
have changed my view.

CoodaShooda 13th Jun 2013 06:49

Today's misogyny story comes courtesy of the Army.
Reckon this one will run for a couple of days as Smith won't be speaking about it until tomorrow.
Not seeking to diminish the potential seriousness of the case but the timing of the announcement smacks of political opportunism.
Smith was briefed on it 2 months ago.

RJM 13th Jun 2013 07:29

The Left doesn't do irony well.

Gillard bans journos from her promos, then uses headlines to proclaim herself an idiot.

You can't buy this quality of entertainment!

Andu 13th Jun 2013 07:33

My thoughts exactly, Cooda. What's the bet when all the "shock! horror!" (and the welcome distraction for the government) is over, it will turn out to be a dozen men who just happen to be the armed services trading emails containing porn.

...and of course, that's never happened before.

I daresay that if Big Brother was to take the trouble to check all the unasked for emails I've received over the years, some of which, from one or two ex-colleagues, have been in extremely bad taste, that same Big Brother could make a case to put me in the dock with the servicemen who've just been 'outed' today.

I also find myself wondering if this might not be a way of silencing - and totally screwing the careers of - a few up and coming senior officers who have proven themselves to be not willing to toe the current Canberra Pardee Line that the recent massive cuts to Defence spending haven't had a detrimental effect on the ADF's abilidy (sic) to perform its core task of defending the "nayshun"?

Now THAT I find easy to believe.

david1300 13th Jun 2013 08:40

http://i40.tinypic.com/ionq50.jpg

Saltie 13th Jun 2013 09:11

Not the first time this one's come in to my inbox, but, after the events of the last 48 hours, I thought it was pertinent.


THE DYING PRIEST
In a Sydney Nursing home an old priest lay dying. For years he had faithfully served the people of the nation’s capital.

He motioned for his nurse to come near.

“Yes, Father?” said the nurse.

“I would really like to see Julia Gillard and Wayne Swan before I die,” whispered the priest.

“I’ll see what I can do, Father,” replied the nurse.

The nurse sent the request to Canberra and waited for a response. Soon the word arrived; Julia and Wayne would be delighted to visit the priest. As they went to the hospital, Wayne commented to Julia “I don’t know why the old priest wants to see us, but it certainly will help our images.”

Julia agreed that it was the right thing to do at this time.

When they arrived at the priest’s room, the priest took Julia's hand in his right hand and Wayne's hand in his left. There was silence and a look of serenity on the old priest’s face.

The old priest slowly said, “I have always tried to pattern my life after our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.”

“Amen,” said Julia

“Amen,” said Wayne

The old priest continued, “Jesus died between two lying thieving bastards; and I would like to do the same....”


Saltie 13th Jun 2013 10:29

This should leave many taxpayers, struggling under increased costs of damn near everything, gasping.

And they gave themselves a pay rise today, taking JEG's annual salary to over half a million.


KRUDD's BENEFITS

Deposed prime minister Kevin Rudd will receive more than $600,000 a year for the rest of his life once he leaves politics.

The silver lining from Mr Rudd's tough week could come from the privileges of being a prime minister for at least a year.

It means he is entitled to superannuation, a gold air pass, a car, at least four personal staff, and his own CBD office space in Brisbane for the rest of his life.

Mr Rudd - at 52, a young ex-prime minister - could receive about $20 million worth of allowances if he lives to 85. This is despite the fact he served just 2 1/2 years as PM.

Mr Rudd and his family left The Lodge in Canberra to fly home to Brisbane. The size of Mr Rudd's superannuation will depend on the date of his departure and whether he again serves in the ministry.

If he retires at the upcoming election he will receive a pension of $118,346 a year for life. The payout will be much higher if Labor win the next election and Mr Rudd returns to the Cabinet.

If he serves a full term in Cabinet under an elected Gillard Government, then retires at the 2013 election, he will receive a lifetime pension of $145,987 a year, indexed.

Then there are a host of other benefits - the airline gold pass, which entitles ex-PMs up to 40 business class flights a year. If Mr Rudd takes 30 flights annually it will cost the taxpayer about $60,000 a year.

Once retired, he is entitled to his own office - worth about $120,000 a year in Brisbane - for the rest of his life, and four staff, which political insiders say will cost $240,000 a year.

Mr Rudd would also be entitled to the lease of a car worth up to $55,000 for the rest of his life. Leasing experts say this would be worth $1000 to 1500 a month.
And Mr Rudd will receive all of these benefits on top of his wife's estimated $56 million fortune.

Meanwhile, as a backbencher, Mr Rudd is still receiving just over $130,000 a year: a comedown from his former Prime Ministerial salary of almost $350,000 a year.

No Cookies | thetelegraph.com.au

david1300 13th Jun 2013 11:51

The value to us of the NBN
 
Has anyone else been seeing ads from service providers for fast broadband through NBN. IINet ads have been popping up for me, promoting in this order: Heavy user plans for Gamers; Heavy user plans for Movie Downloads; Medium user plans for Business; Light user plans for Facebookers.

This clearly shows where they see the value to the country of the NBN :ugh:

Fliegenmong 13th Jun 2013 13:22

Uh..no, have been seeing no ads Davo.....not to say they are not there...just tuned out to them.....

But sorry...I'm not following what is clear to you....when you see these Ads...they're for 'plans'.... so are they ads for private entities? Or are they ads warning against blue ties? or are they ads promoting a commercial interest?

Honest question.....it's just not clear to me as to what you are getting at

......and I should ad, in order to emphasise my lack of 'puter knowledge, that whilst I know how to sit here and '2 finger type', I do not know the diff between a 'Browser' and a 'Search engine'.....don't they both 'look' for stuff??

Cactusjack 13th Jun 2013 13:26

The Blues Brothers?
 
Naughty Kev! Yet again displaying those socio traits, this time wearing a blue tie (on several occasions) after Kentucky Thighs Julia had a shot at the blue tie wearing Liberals! Oh Kev, you are a crack up, whenever the Carbon Queen makes a mess of something, even something simple, Kev is there sticking the blade in, twisting it a slow turn 90 degrees to the left each time! The man is evil, yet a genius! Quick, somebody give him a job as a Warden at Guantanamo Bay, no firing squad with Kevvy, it is a slow bake, slowly slowly bake the chicken (KFC in a red box of course) one turn of the rotisserie at a time!

And I almost forgot Kevs stand on gay marriage! He was totally against it when Prime Minister, a stand backed by his party. Now he comes out saying he has changed his mind, the times are a changing and he now supports it (naturally that is in opposition to his colleagues stance, what a surprise, NOT!) Gold!
I bet he would marry another man just to sink the blade into Julia's hairy back another inch!
Yet again the crowd goes wild and throw vegemite sandwiches at Julia, they steal her shoes, some shout out insults like Carrot Top, Bloodnut, Ranga and worse, but the cheers go up, the blue tie wearers love Kev, the queers love Kev, even babies in the womb love him! Can't you hear it? KEVIN KEVIN KEVIN!! Encore Maestro.

But where is Latham now? C'mon Mark we want some more commentary! I love the 'Rudd is evil' jibe, almost as entertaining as 'John Howard is an arse licker' and 'they are a conga line of suckholes'! Perhaps these boys were the reason for the writing of the book 'The Sociopath Next Door'??

I want to see Kev and Joolia, naked and wrestling in a plastic inflatable pool, not filled with jelly or mud, but with Asbestos, after the latest debacle with the NBN! Can these buffoons do anything right? I think they are possessed, either that or Ruddy has a giant Julia doll (complete with big thighs, big arse, no tits and a red b#%) and he has stuck more pins in it than the pins holding in Brynn Edlestone's tits!
Heck the power brokers have skinned knuckles and shisen under their fingernails from polishing the Labor turd so hard, but to no avail!
And now she is hanging out with another failed politician - The Governator! Unlike Arnie , Julia 'won't be back', she is off to Recall to have her head plant (Kev) removed. Then again, and in the words of Arnie, she does run a team of 'economic girly men', isn't that right Swanny??

Can't wait for the next instalment, it must be soon, not a day passes when these Labor fools touch something that turns to complete excrement! Hopefully it will happen soon. Ive got a comfortable spot on the lounge in front of the TV, a bag of popcorn, a slab of beer with Dark Side Of The Moon playing in the background. The games will continue after another cock- up, on a full moon after they have all forgotten to take their Lithium pills! LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE...........

david1300 13th Jun 2013 14:09

@fliegs...my point s that the Internet Service Providers (ISPs) see the greatest value in promoting pure online entertainment. They are business people trying to make a $, and they realise that this s where the greatest demand for fat internet is.

So as a country we all effectively chip in for this expensive NBN so we can play more games and watch more movies. So much for there being value in becoming more productive:ugh: Once again the ALP producing an expensive policy that misses the mark:} because they really don't understand business, and what drives it.

Buster Hyman 13th Jun 2013 14:31

Indeed Dave. I see the flashy ad about the smug Academic & all the good a fast broadband service will provide for him, but when compared to the heaviest usage of the Internet, his cosy little Skype sessions pale against the downloaded behemoth that is the torrent & porn industry! Simple.

sisemen 13th Jun 2013 14:33

Lateline. Not one single ALP personality wearing a blue tie! What a bunch of newarks (anag)

500N 13th Jun 2013 14:56

Front page of The Age today.

Tim M standing next to Julia with a Blue bow tie on :O :ok:

500N 13th Jun 2013 19:44

I had to love watching everyone back track re menu gate.

Egg on face all around :ok:


Talking of sexism,how come males get blasted but females
- such as Julia - don't get called Sexist when she has a go at males ?
Some of what she is saying is bordering on Sexism.

Dak Man 13th Jun 2013 19:47

She can't help it, she's Welsh.:O

Buster Hyman 13th Jun 2013 23:29

"...people on the internet think he's gay..."...WTF? :ugh::ugh: People on the internet think we never landed on the Moon too...FFS, journalism in this country is farked!

The guy sounds like a right wing shock jock & has a PM on her knees with all sorts of bad policies & history, and he asks her that...seriously? :mad:

chuboy 13th Jun 2013 23:36


Originally Posted by david1300 (Post 7890915)
@fliegs...my point s that the Internet Service Providers (ISPs) see the greatest value in promoting pure online entertainment. They are business people trying to make a $, and they realise that this s where the greatest demand for fat internet is.

You're drawing a long bow there. They just used terms like 'gamer', 'movies', 'facebooking', etc because for the most part the general population is technologically illiterate and neither knows nor cares to learn what will meet their needs. So iiNet simplifies it. Doesn't say anything about the value of the NBN. Where did you see these ads? Could it have been on the television - a place where advertisers can target people who consume entertainment?

By the way, back when dial-up was the norm I don't remember any advertisers raving about how the internet could be used to watch videos, listen to music, video call relatives overseas, do your banking and shopping, read the news, send documents to your boss instantly, etc... don't tell me back then they didn't realise what people would come to demand from the internet! Or maybe, they just knew what their customers cared about at the time and wrote their ads about that! Just some conjecture there...


So as a country we all effectively chip in for this expensive NBN so we can play more games and watch more movies. So much for there being value in becoming more productive Once again the ALP producing an expensive policy that misses the mark
Honestly the only thing that has missed the mark is this paragraph. Are you writing to your local LNP member to push for the NBN project to be scrapped completely? Because their plan is almost as expensive (it's marginally cheaper to build up-front because they aren't actually replacing most of the copper wire in the country that has practically wasted away underground) - the main difference is it will fundamentally restrict users from being productive because it doesn't provide any useful upload speed. Turnbull has repeatedly refused to provide any guarantee on a minimum upload speed, and if you can't upload you can't be productive on the internet, simple as that. So the LNP NBN is going to be an even bigger waste, because the only thing you will be able to do is download songs and movies reasonably quickly. But hey, it's cheaper to build, right?

Until people started getting fibre, quick upload speeds have always been sufficiently expensive (if available) to prevent most people from being able to justify using the internet "productively". So naturally, there exists only niche uses for it today. But uploads are increasing all the time, what with the rise of social networking and cloud storage in the last few years alone. Decent upload speeds will make it viable to work from home even in remote or regional areas. And these are just current applications. Surely that counts as providing productive potential?


because they really don't understand business, and what drives it.
I agree, I challenge anyone to find a single Fortune 500 business that uses the internet day-to-day. It just doesn't happen. The internet is only a fad and it's only a matter of time before this NBN will be a big fat Labor white elephant rotting in the ground while the rest of us are back to using a refidex, telephone and the Yellow Pages like the good old days. :ok:

CoodaShooda 14th Jun 2013 00:02


Decent upload speeds will make it viable to work from home even in remote or regional areas.
Nothing new there chuboy. I've been happily using a viable, remote access web-based management system for the past 10 years.

The only problem with it is the increasing levels of protection required mean I can no longer just use my 3G Telstra dongle with its roaming IP address but have to install a mobile VPN on my laptop to get through the firewalls.

Otherwise, I've had no problem with uploads or downloads to date.

The only issues I have with the current NBN is summed up in six words.....
Cost.....Benefit.....Analysis and Project....Management....Capability.

To a casual observer, all six appear to be missing in action.

Andu 14th Jun 2013 00:31

Misogyny... Menu-gate... Army porn... (watch this space for the next 'shock! horror!' "disclosure).

Am I the only one feeling manipulated?

Am I also the only one who suspects that we're going to be treated to a series of similar distractions (for that's exactly - and only - what they are) right up to the election as the McTurdan spin machine strives to keep Julia Gillard's unending own goals, gaffes and policy failures off the front page?

500N 14th Jun 2013 00:43

Buster

I made that exact comment somewhere else.

With everything going on, he asks a question
about a bloke no one really gives a damn about !!!

CoodaShooda 14th Jun 2013 00:49

Andu

Short answer......No :ok:

Clare Prop 14th Jun 2013 01:07

Pork barrelling in Melissa Parke's electorate...(which BTW includes the federally owned Jandakot Airport where 10m spent on aviation infrastructure would have been very welcome)

Julia Gillard gives Fremantle Dockers $10m for training centre | News.com.au

david1300 14th Jun 2013 01:13

Menu offensive is still only half-baked
  • by: Andrew Fraser and Sid Maher
LABOR'S two-day gender offensive against Tony Abbott continued to unravel yesterday as supporters of Julia Gillard failed to produce any evidence to back claims a derogatory menu had been distributed at a Liberal National Party fundraiser.

As the man who first alerted the world to the existence of the menu - a disgruntled former worker at Brisbane's R&R Cafe - admitted he had no firsthand knowledge it ever left the kitchen, the emergence of a second worker who claimed it had been widely seen at the LNP dinner in March appeared to be a hoax.

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

500N 14th Jun 2013 01:16

Julia should have got off the menu band wagon
as soon as any hint of it being an iffy subject
occured.

But no, she has to push a point.

david1300 14th Jun 2013 01:44


Originally Posted by chuboy (Post 7891610)
You're drawing a long bow there. They just used terms like 'gamer', 'movies', 'facebooking', etc because for the most part the general population is technologically illiterate and neither knows nor cares to learn what will meet their needs. So iiNet simplifies it. Doesn't say anything about the value of the NBN. Where did you see these ads? Could it have been on the television - a place where advertisers can target people who consume entertainment?

The ads are seen regularly by me here when I check my own and other peoples computers for their Internet connection speeds: Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test
BTW, my speeds this morning are: Ping 10 ms; Download 28.61 Mbps; Upload 1.14 Mbps


Originally Posted by chuboy (Post 7891610)
...
Or maybe, they just knew what their customers cared about at the time and wrote their ads about that! Just some conjecture there...

Yep, remember when Juliar was spruiking the benefits of fast broadband. Fast download of movies was always in the first sentence, appealing to the lowest common denominator.


Originally Posted by chuboy (Post 7891610)
...Until people started getting fibre, quick upload speeds have always been sufficiently expensive (if available) to prevent most people from being able to justify using the internet "productively". So naturally, there exists only niche uses for it today. But uploads are increasing all the time, what with the rise of social networking and cloud storage in the last few years alone. Decent upload speeds will make it viable to work from home even in remote or regional areas. And these are just current applications. Surely that counts as providing productive potential?

In my view fibre to the node is fine. Let those that want fibre to the business or home busines or home pay for that last link. Let them learn/appreciate that if you want that extra productivity, you will need to pay. If you want to watch movies or play fast games, your choice, you pay for that entertainment/last link.


Originally Posted by chuboy (Post 7891610)
...I agree, I challenge anyone to find a single Fortune 500 business that uses the internet day-to-day. It just doesn't happen. ...

Missed the point entirely, probably deliberately. It's not about business using fast internet or not; it's about the ALP not understanding business fundamentals - what drives business, what makes it successful, how BUSINESS CREATES JOBS. There isn't a single ALP parliamentarian that could hold down a strategic, finance, policy development or project implementation position in a Fortune 500 company, and that includes our goose of a treasurer and our Wong Finance Minister

chuboy 14th Jun 2013 02:42


Originally Posted by david1300 (Post 7891678)
The ads are seen regularly by me here when I check my own and other peoples computers for their Internet connection speeds: Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test
BTW, my speeds this morning are: Ping 10 ms; Download 28.61 Mbps; Upload 1.14 Mbps

Lucky duck! I get 17ms ping, 8.77 Mbps download and 0.85 Mbps upload. I'm a hint over 1km from the exchange as the crow flies, Brisbane inner suburbs.

So it's great to think that the very base level satellite service offered to very remote areas by NBN providers is still an upgrade for me over ADSL2+.


Yep, remember when Juliar was spruiking the benefits of fast broadband. Fast download of movies was always in the first sentence, appealing to the lowest common denominator.
Yep, it's certainly demeaning but I guess that's the price you have to pay for being so much more intelligent that most people :ok:


In my view fibre to the node is fine. Let those that want fibre to the business or home busines or home pay for that last link. Let them learn/appreciate that if you want that extra productivity, you will need to pay. If you want to watch movies or play fast games, your choice, you pay for that entertainment/last link.
Whether a user-pays philosophy is meritorious is another discussion entirely. The fact remains that at some point in the near future the copper that we currently use will expire and require replacement. In my view, and given that the most expensive part of the rollout is the labour cost, it doesn't take a great deal of consideration to conclude that it is more efficient (and therefore cheaper) to replace batches of copper in one stint, as opposed to waiting in the sidelines and replacing each individual portion when it eventually breaks.

It is absolutely a false economy to invest "almost as much" money into getting a little more speed out of a medium which is known to require imminent replacement, a stop-gap. Why bother? Either build something with a bit of longevity, both physically and in terms of meeting future requirements, or don't build anything at all and save the cash until you're ready to do it properly. It's a question of value just as much as it is about the outright price-tag.


Missed the point entirely, probably deliberately. It's not about business using fast internet or not; it's about the ALP not understanding business fundamentals - what drives business, what makes it successful, how BUSINESS CREATES JOBS. There isn't a single ALP parliamentarian that could hold down a strategic, finance, policy development or project implementation position in a Fortune 500 company, and that includes our goose of a treasurer and our Wong Finance Minister
Perhaps, but I don't see how this is relevant to the NBN rollout? When it comes to building public infrastructure, you can't really apply the same principles as you would when you're out to make a profit for the shareholders every year. Look at what has happened now that we have allowed 'business' run our other monopoly infrastructure - water pipes, power lines, airports. Would you really say as a nation we're better off for it? There's a place for business but it's not in the provision of essential services, and I consider a communications network to be an essential service.

It should be said that NBN will actually pay itself off with a small profit for the government directly (there will of course be secondary sources of govt income if/when enterprising Australians use the infrastructure to make money of their own) through access fees that are paid by service providers. This in contrast to, for instance, trucking companies who pay income tax on the earnings they generate by using public roads for "free" (sure there's rego... but that barely covers the admin costs, let alone the cost of building and maintaining the road network, which comes from the taxpayer pocket). Or OAPs using public hospitals for free, even the ladies who back in their day didn't have any place in society working and paying taxes.

CoodaShooda 14th Jun 2013 02:47


This in contrast to, for instance, trucking companies who pay income tax on the earnings they generate by using public roads for free (sure there's rego... but that barely covers the admin costs of road maintenance let alone the actual resurfacing etc, which comes from the taxpayer pocket).
Rego, TPI and excise on fuel?

chuboy 14th Jun 2013 02:54

Let's be realistic here. Even with rego and fuel excise, there is a still a huge deficit when it comes to the cost of having a road network. Unless you think our highways are in the condition they're in because that's best practice? QLD will probably never have enough money to repair all the roads that were damaged by flooding in the last few years, even with extra funding in addition to rego and fuel excise.

Buster Hyman 14th Jun 2013 03:03


Yep, it's certainly demeaning but I guess that's the price you have to pay for being so much more intelligent that most people http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif
Priceless! :D

chuboy 14th Jun 2013 03:13

well, if you can't laugh at yourself :\

david1300 14th Jun 2013 04:11

Unedited Public response to JG's Blue Tie speech
 
Last Post, June 13 THE Prime Minister's attempt to confect a fake gender and abortion war in a strange tirade against men with blue ties is quite enough for me. I have never previously voted Liberal, but as a woman, I intend to wear a blue tie on September 14.

M. Young, Townsville, Qld
I'm trying hard to imagine the unholy uproar if Tony Abbott had declared the Liberal Party to be a party of men, after Gillard said that the Labor Party was the party of women.
John Scardigno, Adelaide, SA
Supporting a female candidate for the safe Labor seat of Batman may have given Julia Gillard a bit more credibility.
David Crommelin, Strathfield, NSW
It is your gross incompetence, Julia Gillard, not your gender.
Jennifer Ashton, Mission Beach, Qld
Julia Gillard is so worried about the colour of Coalition members' ties that she had to stand up in front of a posse of young placard-waving women and tell us. But Gillard forgot to mention the red underpants Stephen Conroy wants people to wear on their heads.
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http://ad.au.doubleclick.net/ad/N720...1371126045328?

Paul Keefe, Wyreema, Qld
Wearing blue ties will make abortion a political football? Julia Gillard has jumped the shark.
Burt Bosma, Surrey Hills, Vic
If the ALP is the party of women, why is it run by faceless men?
Ian Mackay, Shenton Park, WA
Julia Gillard's performance in the top job has done more damage to the perception of women in leadership positions than any number of women-hating, conspiratorial men in blue ties could dream of.
Steve Atkins, Berowra Heights, NSW
Imagine the media reaction if the Opposition Leader addressed a men for Abbott support group, criticised Julia Gillard's wardrobe and then insisted men would suffer under a government led by a woman.
M. Stephen, Dalby, Qld
I wonder if Labor senator and Julia Gillard supporter David Feeney wears blue ties?
Anne Healy, Cammeray, NSW
September 14 should be national blue tie day. I will wear one that matches the handle of the bat I'll take to vote.
Richard Sallie, Nedlands, WA
Herman Melville's Moby Dick comes to mind as I read of Julia Gillard's defiance in the face of her critics - especially the content of her latest speech attacking gender. Has a PM ever been so detached from reality?
Geoff Ellis, Smithfield, Qld
Was Julia Gillard actually having a shot at Kevin Rudd and his choice of neckwear colour?
Mike Avey, Paddington, Qld
When a PM is reduced to criticising the colour of her opponent's tie, it is pretty obvious the game is up.
Bill James, Bayswater, Vic
It's not about gender and ties, it's about policy, performance and credibility. Divide and conquer will not work.
Ilze Frank, North Adelaide, SA
Is Julia Gillard in need of a long holiday? Her latest speech on abortion is, to put it kindly, surprising. Surely it's time the caucus did its duty and put a stop to all this. It certainly isn't winning any votes.
Michael Stanbridge, Bonnet Bay, NSW
Paul Howes showed his support for the Prime Minister by wearing a blue tie.
Greg O'Shea, Forest Lake, Qld
The Prime Minister is scraping the bottom of the barrel with her references to gender and abortion. For me, I couldn't care less whether the PM is male or female. What I do expect in the leader of our country is some common dignity.
Karl Hartmann, Clayfield, Qld
I thought Labor was the party for blue-collar workers. What's wrong with a matching tie?
Kaye Small, Canberra, ACT

Whoops - edited to add a link to the source: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/letters/last-post-june-13/story-fn558imw-1226662737846

david1300 14th Jun 2013 04:26

Oh Kevvie, How Julia must Love You
 
Kevin Rudd was warmly received during a visit to a Sydney school on Friday. But it was his reaction to a gift he received that set tongues wagging.
Campaigning with Labor MP Chris Bowen in his electorate of McMahon, Mr Rudd was invited to speak to a leadership seminar at Patrician Brothers' College in Fairfield.
From the moment he walked into the school gym to the strains of Florence and the Machine, Mr Rudd was cheered loudly.
http://images.smh.com.au/2013/06/14/...d1-620x349.jpg A gift: Kevin Rudd tries on a blue tie given to him at Patrician Brothers' College in Fairfield. Photo: Ben Rushton

He spoke candidly about his time as prime minister and what he regarded as his biggest mistake: the decision to delay an emissions trading scheme, which many have said was fatal to his leadership.

But it was the gift of a striped blue school tie that drew the most attention. Mr Rudd did little to dampen interest, taking off his red tie and putting on the blue alternative immediately.

Read more: Rudd refuses to get tied up as he changes his colours

Worrals in the wilds 14th Jun 2013 06:06


From the moment he walked into the school gym to the strains of Florence and the Machine, Mr Rudd was cheered loudly.
I suppose today's kids aren't familiar with Talking Heads' Burning Down The House, which would have been a more appropriate soundtrack. :E

Flying Binghi 14th Jun 2013 06:12


...what he regarded as his biggest mistake: the decision to delay an emissions trading scheme, which many have said was fatal to his leadership...
Just as Gillards decision to delay an emissions trading scheme was fatal to her leadership..:rolleyes:

Hmmmmmmm....... we got billionaire Al Gores mate Mr Groper touring Oz at the moment pushing the carbon scam, i wonder what carbon profiteering gig Rudd is trying to line up for himself once he's got his political pension increase locked in..:hmm:

...and how long before bankers boy Turnbull starts to ramp up the carbon trading message..:hmm:







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