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Mi sa che non avete capito secondo me.....secondo me al simulatore è come avere a che fare un pò con i vigili urbani: se vogliono farti la multa te la fanno.
Allo stesso modo al simulatore se vogliono fare in modo di cannarti ti cannano.....come può essere usato (come dovrebbe) per testare una persona, può anche esere usato per farla fuori, qualsiasi livello di iper bravura questa abbia. Come del resto si può fare in modo di far passare uno meno preparato.....mi sbaglio? Insomma, da ausilio meraviglioso è diventato una sorta di strumento.
Almeno così a me sembra da esterno.
Allo stesso modo al simulatore se vogliono fare in modo di cannarti ti cannano.....come può essere usato (come dovrebbe) per testare una persona, può anche esere usato per farla fuori, qualsiasi livello di iper bravura questa abbia. Come del resto si può fare in modo di far passare uno meno preparato.....mi sbaglio? Insomma, da ausilio meraviglioso è diventato una sorta di strumento.
Almeno così a me sembra da esterno.
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infatti lo chiedevo a lui.............
maumau ma cosa stai farneticando?
stavamo parlando di assunzioni di piloti stranieri provenienti da agenzie.
se la compagnia contatta una agenzia per farsi mandare dei piloti perche' ne ha ovviamente bisogno, perche' dovrebbe usare il sim per segarli ??
il sim serve per vedere se sono ad un livello professionale adeguato
quello di cui parli tu e' il sim come lo usavano tempo fa' nel nordest, oltretutto erano talmente pir....ni. da non riuscire neanche a segarti perche' fondamentalmente erano ignoranti , inteso come preparati , poiche' pensavano di essere deus e quindi non studiavano, ma quello era un'altro film e ora non lo danno piu' in quel cinema
maumau ma cosa stai farneticando?
stavamo parlando di assunzioni di piloti stranieri provenienti da agenzie.
se la compagnia contatta una agenzia per farsi mandare dei piloti perche' ne ha ovviamente bisogno, perche' dovrebbe usare il sim per segarli ??
il sim serve per vedere se sono ad un livello professionale adeguato
quello di cui parli tu e' il sim come lo usavano tempo fa' nel nordest, oltretutto erano talmente pir....ni. da non riuscire neanche a segarti perche' fondamentalmente erano ignoranti , inteso come preparati , poiche' pensavano di essere deus e quindi non studiavano, ma quello era un'altro film e ora non lo danno piu' in quel cinema
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mau mau
Questo però è tutt'altro paio di maniche da quello che diceva gatti in merito al problema delle assunzioni. Questo che stai dicendo tu si potrebbe riallacciare a quello che invece diceva in merito alla merdiana e alla eurofly. Ma cmq non voglio entrare nel merito PERCHé NON CONOSCO I FATTI, e se io non conosco i fatti non entro assolutamente nel merito delle cose.
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Parrebbe che il fenomeno dei first officers che si spacciano per captains, seppur certo non diffusissimo, abbia qualche fondamento:
riporto un articolo publicato oggi su News.com.au Top stories | News from Australia and around the world online | News.com.au indicato come proveniente da France Presse
'Fake' airline pilot held over false papers
A GERMAN man has been arrested for allegedly using false documents to secure a job as a senior airline pilot, a Sri Lankan police spokesman said.
Ranjith Gunasekara said the man had been flying for Sri Lanka's national carrier for 10 months before an internal probe found he was only qualified as a co-pilot, and not as a captain of a wide-bodied airliner.
"We are going to take over all the documents from personal files for our investigations," Mr Gunasekara said. "The German national is now being held by the airport police."
There was no immediate comment from Sri Lankan airline, which until April this year was fully-managed by Emirates of Dubai.
Sri Lankan airline sources said the German national was discovered when a junior pilot, who had been sent for routine training on a bigger Airbus A-340, noticed that the "captain" was uncomfortable with the controls.
However, he had still captained Sri Lankan flights to European destinations including London, Frankfurt and Paris, as well as Dubai, the sources said.
riporto un articolo publicato oggi su News.com.au Top stories | News from Australia and around the world online | News.com.au indicato come proveniente da France Presse
'Fake' airline pilot held over false papers
A GERMAN man has been arrested for allegedly using false documents to secure a job as a senior airline pilot, a Sri Lankan police spokesman said.
Ranjith Gunasekara said the man had been flying for Sri Lanka's national carrier for 10 months before an internal probe found he was only qualified as a co-pilot, and not as a captain of a wide-bodied airliner.
"We are going to take over all the documents from personal files for our investigations," Mr Gunasekara said. "The German national is now being held by the airport police."
There was no immediate comment from Sri Lankan airline, which until April this year was fully-managed by Emirates of Dubai.
Sri Lankan airline sources said the German national was discovered when a junior pilot, who had been sent for routine training on a bigger Airbus A-340, noticed that the "captain" was uncomfortable with the controls.
However, he had still captained Sri Lankan flights to European destinations including London, Frankfurt and Paris, as well as Dubai, the sources said.
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Si potrebbero raccontare ad esempio le storie di quello che in AP ha volato per anni,fatto il corso comando, esercitato come captain per poi essere beccato (da un TRE belga) senza l'ATPL....
E non veniva da una agenzia.....
E non veniva da una agenzia.....
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Some of my Ex Sabena colleagues work in Italy... also some now work for
Jet Airways, Emirates etc whether for an agency or a direct hire the situation is the same, You send CVs you send your docs, you have a sim check and Interview and your original docs are checked, Also most agencies and Airlines do make reference checks. In fact I would say that the Agencies are more switched on than the airlines as they know who the cowboys are. Thats the situation as I know it. perhaps there are some unscupulous agencies but I think the big guys know their jobs
Jet Airways, Emirates etc whether for an agency or a direct hire the situation is the same, You send CVs you send your docs, you have a sim check and Interview and your original docs are checked, Also most agencies and Airlines do make reference checks. In fact I would say that the Agencies are more switched on than the airlines as they know who the cowboys are. Thats the situation as I know it. perhaps there are some unscupulous agencies but I think the big guys know their jobs
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i fully agreed zav, they know the type of guy also from feed back from previous airline where the have been, but sometimes they cheat, but the sim cannot cheat, and after one week you know whic kind of pilot you got.
so, no problem if you ok , well otherway you fu...ed away.
By the way my italian fellow, do you remember about enac that ten years ago discover taht some (not a few) italian alitalia pilot\cpt where sue for not having the title in order? i mean ex military that the had ir and multi without Never flown a twin engine nor un ifr instrumented airplane before jioning az ?
and some civilians with commercial licence without any evidence of taking any teste or flyng exam?
so, no problem if you ok , well otherway you fu...ed away.
By the way my italian fellow, do you remember about enac that ten years ago discover taht some (not a few) italian alitalia pilot\cpt where sue for not having the title in order? i mean ex military that the had ir and multi without Never flown a twin engine nor un ifr instrumented airplane before jioning az ?
and some civilians with commercial licence without any evidence of taking any teste or flyng exam?
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Ci sara' poco da spiegare....
E ripeto che, tra le varie inesattezze di cui poteva essere farcito, l'articolo oggetto del 3d ne segnalava l'esistenza alla pubblica opinione.
Assieme ad altri "episodi" che ci toccano in prima persona (vedi ultimo quote del post #32).
What else ?