G’day,

We wanna move to Milan (MxP) within the next weeks any expats (English, Irish, German……) there? We come with 2 kids (2 and 5 years) and it would be handy to have someone to talk with ;-)).

Thanks

mjv

mjv,
there are gazillions of expats around MXP. You won't feel lonely

When i started working in the UK i didn't look for expats to chat with....was more interested in locals.
Why would i go to the UK and look for germans or dutch people?weird way of looking at things...

Simple, Italians are friendly but not open to foreigners because of the language barrier. I don’t want to have my family hanging in there with no one to talk and getting upset after a couple of months. I do know the area and I never had troubles to communicate, but as said we want to make some english speaking friends to get easier into the society.

Thanks

mjv

mjv,
it's quite difficult to say beforehand what kind of people you'd be more likely to befriend. It also depends on many things (like age of children, your and your spouse's profession, etc) I think the best would be that you make your choice of friends after having settled. As I said, there is no shortage of expats.
The area with the higher density per square meter of expats is around the Lake Maggiore, especially around the city of Arona (Dormelletto is not called "The English Ghetto" for nothing ).

I gotta say I didn't like when Mjv said that Italians are not open to foregneirs cause of the language problem!
Let's try to put it in a nice way:
as a guest in this country you should at least understand that every country has its own langauge and colture, you don't go to a place and expect to find what you left at home.
I lived in many places and I always tried to adapt (learn the language is the first thing I would you suggest of doing it makes things easier and also funnier).
When I lived in english speaking country nobody was speaking a second languge (italian wasn't even in my wildest dream), why expecting things to be different in Italy.

Trust me we are not the best people in the world but ospitability is for sure part of our colture!

Anyway Good luck, relocating is always difficult, I know it!!!
Speevy

Guys, let's not start a discussion about mjv's motives for seeking expat contacts please. This is only his choice to make, and a personal one, right or wrong.
Having been many times in my life an expat, I know that the kind of choice you can make depend on many factors, and also that having contacts with nationals abroad can be very comforting and useful.
Let's wish him a very happy stay in Italy

don`t know if you can commute, but tuscany is supposed to have a rather large population of Brits, also you might want to check out the closest airforce base, i grew up by one and there were hundreds of Americans in the little towns nearby the base.
I can only immagine the pressure you must be in, good luck and let me know if it becomes unbearable, my wife is American and we have been considering relocating.......

Ok, lets keep things right

I lived in Milan for almost 2 years and I never had any troubles to communicate or finding/making friends!

BUT it’s a bit different with a family, we moved from Germany to Switzerland to Ireland to France to Germany to NZ. I will f^ck off to work every day and having “fun” my missus and kids not!!!! So is it so hard for you guys to understand that?? Guess not!!!


Just in case someone wants to meet:

I’m an engineer hate flight crews of course and doing all this men stuff, working, drinking, sports and my motorbike

My partner, hate cabin crews especially the good-looking girls, she does all the women stuff cooking, reading, bitching about….., aerobics and spending hours on the phone talking bull.

My two kids are 2 and 5 years, best looking boys on this planet are just boys and do what boys do.


btw, signed the contract and we will hit italy in october/november

mjv

@skualo3

thanks for the advice, but I think we will stay within the area and see how the family will handle the situation. I was offered a nice package and it’s a perfect chance to come back to Europe. If you are happy to relocate its most properly one of the better places in central Europe and as I said, the Italians are usually reserved (have to be careful) but as soon as you overcome the language barrier (after a couple of drinks or so) it changes rapidly.

mjv

Maybe rita could help.

Welcome in italy Mjv.

don' t pay attention to someone like tarjet fixated. He is not a bad guy just a bit grouchy due to some brain inbalance.He forgets to shut off the cross feed valve and all the juice goes in his flux capacitor valve which gives him brain farts......

Saluti.

@geeny

is "she" the one next to la perla

mjv

no, I suspect rita is a he, lives in ppruneland and does not like people like me (a non Italian) in Italy. Can't wait the comment....

Rita has been behaving "herself" recently...let's keep it that way?

simply .... Welcome !

Many foreiners live around lakes and Milan You won't have problems.

Ciao

or better an internal "expat". I did move from Rome to MXP many years ago and still try to realize why

"I’m an engineer hate flight crews of course and doing all this men stuff, working, drinking, sports and my motorbike"

Hey! We got the same feelings (who knows why ground staff always hate "naviganti"? btw I'm a dispatcher)... I drive a Hornet 600, but roads' quality would suggest an off-road one.... What about you?

A little suggestion: kids learn languages very fast, take the chance to expand yr childern's culture not hanging them out at english speaking ones only.

Ciao

not actually an expats
or better an internal "expat". I did move from Rome to MXP many years ago and still try to realize why

"I’m an engineer hate flight crews of course and doing all this men stuff, working, drinking, sports and my motorbike"

Hey! We got the same feelings (who knows why ground staff always hate "naviganti"? btw I'm a dispatcher)... I drive a Hornet 600, but roads' quality would suggest an off-road one.... What about you?

A little suggestion: kids learn languages very fast, take the chance to expand yr childern's culture not hanging them out at english speaking ones only.

Ciao


Caro,


I do not hate "naviganti" I just don't like them no worries I do have lots of friends with 3 or 4 strips, but some just can't communicate with us without showing their disrespect. but that's a different story

I knew a couple of dispatchers in MXP, most of them were/are women
I have just sold my Ducati still can't belive it, reconditioned the whole thing two months ago and now I have to leave "her" behind
I'm sure we can meet for a beer at some stage and talk about all this crap in detail.

ciao

mjv

WHAT'S THIS STORY ABOUT HATING OR DISLIKING OTHER COLLEAGUES???

we all work for the same aim: making air travel the safest form of transport and only narrow minded people would waste their time disliking other professionals who work in the same environment for the same aim.

none of these people would ever be welcome anywhere!change your attitude or change your job losers!

tmr

HI tmr,

I think you missed my , but if you can’t cope with the truth, you should work a month or so with me and you can see what we have to deal with

one of the losers

never mind

mjv

"we all work for the same aim: making air travel the safest form of transport and only narrow minded people would waste their time disliking other professionals who work in the same environment for the same aim."

tmr, remember me the above next time you'll be on strike because you don't like the beach of yr 5 star hotel...