Interesting, where are you getting these figures from may I ask?
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Originally Posted by EGPF
(Post 9826073)
No, you must pay during the training in instalments. The total money you need to pay is about £123,000.
However, after you complete training and have been given the job, you are given £69,000 back in instalments for the next seven years with your pay tax free. |
Originally Posted by Matt0
(Post 9825743)
Hey Guys,
During the training, are you paid or receive a monthly allowance from easyJet? Thanks |
Is anyone aware of the sort of things you are tested on in the computer tests undertaken in the first stages of the CTC training?
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Just so I know, are BBVA still doing the loans (reports in May that they'd stopped), has another provider stepped in, or is everybody starting this year just flush with £109k in their/Mum and Dad's/Granny's back pocket? :confused:
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BBVA are still taking on new applicants until November. However their lending criteria is very strict and unless you are towards the end of paying off your mortgage or motgage free then the likelihood of borrowing the full amount is very slim. Look around for other high street banks as they do offer similar products they just don't brand them as pilot training loans and thus don't charge the earth to set them up. Best of luck.
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Apparently if you contact them they will give you the info as usual, give it a go. Last I heard was that they were stopping the loans in November later this year.
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Originally Posted by Rutherford12
(Post 9826525)
Is anyone aware of the sort of things you are tested on in the computer tests undertaken in the first stages of the CTC training?
This is called a pilot aptitude test and there are many online packages to practice the "core skills" as they say however they are not 100% accurate of what tests you may see as I've heard easyJet change their tests once in a while. Here's an example of an online package that lets you practice for easyJet specifically:https://pilotaptitudetest.com/knowledgebase/easyjet/ There are also many good blogs you could find online of candidates who have gone through the process. Best of luck. |
Where the bond is concerned I certainly wouldn't use it as a deductible from course costs / loan repayments in any future financial planning. It's an incredibly clever way of saving costs for all parties and also a way for L3/CTS to ensure your performance. If you're going for the easyJet MPL then do so presuming you're going to be paying the full sum and then forget about the bond for now. It shouldn't really be a deciding factor. At the request of the moderators here I shall not post a link, but those aware of my blog will find an article there related to it.
In respect of the pre-Dibden tests - if they're even being employed this round - then they're called Cut-E. Employers can pick and choose a combination of tests so who knows what battery you'll get this time. Dibden tests are PILAPT. Again, lots is documented on these on several cadet blogs and latestpilotjobs.com, pilotaptitudetest.com, and SkyTest will provide an idea as to what to expect. Living expenses wise, budget a few thousand for that. Despite how much we moan about Britain at least we've the infrastructure. It certainly isn't cheap to live in New Zealand where easyJet prefer you be sent. |
I was told 2-3 weeks..... who knows!
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I am a bit confused with what actually happens before and at assessment 1 (l3/ctc) interview. Can anyone update me, please?
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the "bond" works as such.
Airline x offers you a job with a salary of 35k. If airline x is part of the program you can choose to take a "salary" of 23k and have the remaining 12k per year tax free. You still earn the same amount but save a few hundred on tax. Think of it as tax relief, for now. I say for now because HMRC are now looking closely at it. To say that the course is fully sponsored and you get 70k back or however much it is now is a lie. |
savings all round for some!!
So on that basis the airline saves employers national insurance contributions on the reduced 'salary' that they pay. 15% I think. Plus further savings - 7% with easyJet, on the employers pension contributions that will be based on the reduced salary. No wonder HMRC may be interested.
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I applied to the program in early June at L3.
The application process has not finished yet and now the website shows nothing at the application status window (after some documentation request, which never was acknowledged by them) how much should I wait them to reply my application and appoint me for an assessment date? FYI: Before this an "under review" text appeared. How much is the waiting time between you finish the online application and you get the first appointment or reply? Should I ask them about? If there's someone may help me with this, I would be grateful. Many thanks! |
easyjet/ctc MPL contract
Hi everyone, been following this thread for a while, thanks for the advice & information. I've recently been offered a place on the easyJet MPL route 1, and i've been sent through the contracts. Has anyone sought out legal advice regarding the contracts? I'd love to speak to someone who has, or who has already enrolled/completed the course.
My main concern is that i'm agreeing to sign a contract with easyjet, which would happen after course completion, without actually seeing that contract. |
Originally Posted by TopGun54
(Post 9829361)
Hi everyone, been following this thread for a while, thanks for the advice & information. I've recently been offered a place on the easyJet MPL route 1, and i've been sent through the contracts. Has anyone sought out legal advice regarding the contracts? I'd love to speak to someone who has, or who has already enrolled/completed the course.
My main concern is that i'm agreeing to sign a contract with easyjet, which would happen after course completion, without actually seeing that contract. Just out of curiosity when did you go through selection? |
easyJet Europe in Austria
easyJet has today announced that 30% of its operation will transition to a new airline - easyJet Europe - to be registered in Austria. This 30% represents the existing mainland EU operation and associated aircraft. The move in itself safeguards the EU to EU domestic flights post-Brexit. The new airline will become a subsidiary of easyJet UK.
New jobs will be created in head office roles within Austria to support the business and 30% of easyJet UK's fleet is to transition to the new business in time for the UK leaving Europe. All UK based jobs will remain unaffected. Aircraft themselves are not to be repositioned to Austria as part of this. Note, It is not yet known how this will affect eventual cadet placement with easyJet and whether cadets will remain within the UK business or new Austrian business based on company needs. As an example, easyJet's other business easyJet Switzerland is an entirely separate legal entity and inter-company transfers aren't quite as simple. SOURCE: https://www.mediacentre.easyjet.com/stories/10268 |
Thanks for the update gbotley
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Hey TopGun54,
Well done on getting route 1. Out of interest, when did you sit your stage 3 (Interview and Group Exercise)? Did you hear anything regarding underwriting? Well done again :) |
Interesting to see in the news today that easyJet CEO Carolyn McCall has resigned to become CEO of ITV.
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So how's it going for everyone? Anybody received any good news recently/ has just completed one of their assessments?
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Originally Posted by TopGun54
(Post 9829361)
Hi everyone, been following this thread for a while, thanks for the advice & information. I've recently been offered a place on the easyJet MPL route 1, and i've been sent through the contracts. Has anyone sought out legal advice regarding the contracts? I'd love to speak to someone who has, or who has already enrolled/completed the course.
My main concern is that i'm agreeing to sign a contract with easyjet, which would happen after course completion, without actually seeing that contract. I was advised that the training contract itself was very vague and hence very risky. The advisor gave me several examples of scenarios that could potentially happen based on literal application of the terms. Also in regards to EasyJet you will not receive any contract or even the basis of any terms and conditions until you have successfully completed the MPL course and have received a start date. For me this was flexicrew with APL, a CTC subsidiary, although flexicrew is potentially being removed soon. But this was the same for those that went directly to EasyJet on a European contract. The reality for the vast majority of people is that you will successfully complete the training to the standard required and get a job offer/contract at the end, however the contract (and any prospective EasyJet contact) is realistically worthless until that time. |
Is anyone aware as to whether the so-called "Route 4" for fATPL holders may come back?
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There is a route 4 but it's for those who pass stage 3 selection but don't meet the criteria for easyJet at the airline stage. It's the full whitetail course.
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I presume you're referring to the CTC route 4 (different to OAA's 'route 4' - a con) for those who already hold the license? Now word on it at all from what I've seen
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Just had an email today from L3/CTC regarding outcome at stage 4
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Ah great news! How did you do?
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Route 1. Has anyone else been told today? Best of luck to anyone waiting.
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Originally Posted by momo95
(Post 9840212)
I presume you're referring to the CTC route 4 (different to OAA's 'route 4' - a con) for those who already hold the license? Now word on it at all from what I've seen
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Hi all,
I've recently received an email from CTC allocating me route 3. A bit dissappointed with getting what seems like 3rd place, however still of course happy to get on an easyJet scheme. From what I gather, the ATPL is more thorough and thus more expensive at £123k, compared to £109k with routes 1 & 2 (MPL). The £123k cost includes an A320 type rating too. A conditional contract of employment is also offered with route 3, as well as the payback scheme of the £69k training bond. The easyJet SOPs are introduced in the intermediate phase. So I having trouble seeing any great downsides to this route, compared to routes 1 & 2 (MPL). Am I missing something? Thanks for any help |
Hi,
Congrats on getting accepted to easyJet. Were you offered route 3 after the aptitude tests or the interviews? |
Honestly I personally think the only downside is it is more expensive. I personally would be just as happy with route 3 than I would route 1 since I think the ATPL is arguably better than MPL, with regards to job security, since other airlines seem to still prefer it. Thats not to say the the MPL isn't good too though.
Of course this is just my opinion. Congratulations by the way! I've got my Stage 2 on the 26th so I am a long way off knowing anything. |
Well it's basically more expensive as you pointed out, which is a downside. However you also get an ATPL instead of an MPL, which for me is an advantage. Just search for the difference between mpl and atpl to see the one that fits you the best, and look for the thread about the mpl to make you an idea about what's different
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Originally Posted by jimi_riddler
(Post 9840502)
Route 1. Has anyone else been told today? Best of luck to anyone waiting.
Thanks! |
I sat stage three towards the end of June. They accumulate all stage three passes within a two month period and rank accordingly. I think the end of June was the end of one of those two month periods....so unfortunately you may have a bit of a wait. I hope you get the result you want!
Yes I had the book event button too....it doesn't change no matter how often you click on it Trust me! |
Great to hear, thanks a lot for your quick feedback !
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Originally Posted by jimi_riddler
(Post 9840508)
No CTC have the same route 4 as OAA, basically haven't been accepted by the airline but can continue on whitetail course.
OAA on the other hand have a fully marketed 'route 4' which is basically just unfounded spin on their normal ATPL integrated course. I think the person asking the question is referring to the route 4 that CTC used to have, which sort of an AQC for those who already hold the licenses and they would do the TR with easyJet via CTC ... the plug got pulled on it from what i recall. |
Thanks for your replies.
You have to undertake both days to be offered a route (to answer Mat's q). I also wonder whether the easyJet contract is the same for route 3 as for route 1/2? I have heard of flexi-crew and non-permanent contracts (for all routes) which is slightly disturbing. |
Route 4 at CTC is basically the applicant has passed CTC selection but hasn't been successful with the airline at stage 4 so can still attend whitetail but 'non-tagged'.
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Has anyone heard of any upgrades happening for the guys and girls on route 2?
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