L3/CTC stage 2 tests are as stated on Pilot George's blog: 15 multiple choice mental maths questions followed by a series of aptitude tests. No physics!
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I agree that the interview/group exercise stages may be different, but I sat the easyJet stage 2 assessment at Dibden Manor a few weeks ago and it was exactly as I (and George) described!
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Good to hear/read! Good luck to all those mid application, maybe I'll see some of you at my stage 2 on 26th July!
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Questions regarding CTC route!
Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum but have been following some threads regarding Genertation easyJet! I applied last week through the CTC course and heard back today that I've made it to the selection days, I just have a few questions! 1) I've read the forums and information on the website surrounding the cost of the course and loans but from what I've read I understand this may be paid by easyJet, is this only highly talented candidates or is this something everyone receives? Just some general more in depth information then is available on the website would be useful! 2) My email states specifically that I've made it onto 'easyJet route 3 selection', does this mean I've already been given this route or could I be assigned a different one should I be successful? 3) Finally, does anyone have an idea of the chances of success in interview (i.e. How many people make it onto the course)? With the high cost of the selection day and with myself being only 18, it is a large cost to me and I just wondered what the chances of success are if we have any indication at all! I know these questions are quite basic so forgive me if I've repeated anything already mentioned! Good luck to everyone applying this year! :D |
Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire
(Post 9802457)
1) I've read the forums and information on the website surrounding the cost of the course and loans but from what I've read I understand this may be paid by easyJet, is this only highly talented candidates or is this something everyone receives? Just some general more in depth information then is available on the website would be useful!
Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire
(Post 9802457)
2) My email states specifically that I've made it onto 'easyJet route 3 selection', does this mean I've already been given this route or could I be assigned a different one should I be successful?
Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire
(Post 9802457)
3) Finally, does anyone have an idea of the chances of success in interview (i.e. How many people make it onto the course)? With the high cost of the selection day and with myself being only 18, it is a large cost to me and I just wondered what the chances of success are if we have any indication at all!
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If it's any indication, in my class of 24 at L3, around 14 are easyJet. New course roughly every 3 or 4 weeks. Big numbers.
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Originally Posted by gbotley
(Post 9802735)
Based on this I would presume you do not qualify for Route 1/2. What are your grades if you don't mind me asking?
Does anyone know what positives/negatives there are to the Integrated ATPL course? Will taking route 3 limit me in any way? Thanks @scotwings for the info, sounds like they’re really pushing it atm! |
Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire
(Post 9802781)
I’m just completing A-Levels now but have predicted grades of A*AA? Is it the fact that they’re predicted that has limited this?
For the sake of clearing confusion.. here is the website text: To qualify for the easyJet MPL or the MPL Upgrade, you must also hold: * A minimum of 2 A Levels grades C or above (excluding General Studies and Critical Thinking); or * A degree grade 2:2 or above You may apply to the program with predicted grades but they must be achieved on commencement of training. EDIT: To add, Route 3 is essentially the Integrated route that all Whitetail cadets at L3 would follow with the advantage of a conditional job offer just like Route 1/2 so in that regard it would still result in the RHS of an A319/20/21 at EZY. It would just cost more given you're following a non-MPL route. |
Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire
(Post 9802781)
I’m just completing A-Levels now but have predicted grades of A*AA? Is it the fact that they’re predicted that has limited this?
Does anyone know what positives/negatives there are to the Integrated ATPL course? Will taking route 3 limit me in any way? Thanks @scotwings for the info, sounds like they’re really pushing it atm! |
Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire
(Post 9802781)
I’m just completing A-Levels now but have predicted grades of A*AA? Is it the fact that they’re predicted that has limited this?
Does anyone know what positives/negatives there are to the Integrated ATPL course? Will taking route 3 limit me in any way? Thanks @scotwings for the info, sounds like they’re really pushing it atm! "This route provides a further opportunity to join easyJet for those who successfully complete selection and begin the Integrated ATPL route, but are not shortlisted to upgrade to MPL on completion of Theoretical Knowledge exams and do meet easyJet criteria, OR do not hold the academic qualifications required for the MPL route. You will continue on the Integrated ATPL route, completing the Intermediate phase of training tailored to easyJet A320 aircraft and Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs). Upon successful completion of training you'll then launch an exciting flying career as an easyJet Co-Pilot on completion of A320 type rating, base and line training." I'm not particularly sure but good thing is that you get a frozen ATPL I believe but correct me if I'm wrong. You won't have a chance of getting your loan underwritten and the cost is £123,800 which includes your type rating. To be completely honest, the integrated program is pretty much the standard package that L3CTS offers so you might want to read this https://www.l3airlineacademy.com/car...ntegrated-atpl however your airline placement is likely to be easyJet rather than any other airline. |
Thanks for the share Millasaurus, although no doubt the link will be removed as the mods tend to hate people sharing blogs it seems. A quick Google of MPL vs ATPL will find you all of the results you would need for any comparison FlyYorkshire. In training alongside MPL cadets on the daily, I have to say I'm quite impressed with the structure/delivery of the flight stage of training. A lot the MPL is teaching a fair few components in the simulator where mistakes can be made before then going and doing it in the air in the real deal. I personally prefer this approach in the sense you get over the stress of being introduced to new concepts during the sim component. But hey, everyone's different.
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Does anyone have any info about the route 2 MPL upgrade regarding what you need to achieve at groundschool, how many people have been upgraded, what happens if you aren't upgraded etc? It's quite vague.
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75% (a pass) in each subject and no more than 3 fails is what's required to be eligible for an upgrade. However, obviously the better you do the more likely it is that you will be upgraded. As mentioned it depends on the number of cadets already on the MPL as well.
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To anyone who has completed the stage 3 assessment, how long was the period of time between the two assessments and was it the same booking process as with the stage 2 assessment?
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I thought I'd share my experience. I applied to the Generation EasyJet programme last year about July, I only sat my technical day in March (long story).
If you are going to CTC I would say SkyTest is the closest you will get to the actual tests you will experience that day. I couldn't get the audio to work with SkyTest through my PC but they very kindly issued me a license for iPad. I wouldn't recommend using the iPad for anything requiring the joystick as the on-screen control is not helpful. I would use the auto-trainer function as it pushes you to the limits but you will find on the day when you sit the test that it's pushed you further than you need. The maths test is multiple choice and I highly recommend using latestpilotjobs.com, merely for practicing quick calculations. You only get 1 A5 (half of A4) sheet of paper and I had several square route and currency conversion questions which I had to answer using educated guesses. I passed this section of the test (I didn't ask for my score). |
quick question: what is the dress code for stage 2 assessment? ;)
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I would advise wearing a suit and tie at all stages. It's a professional job you're going for and it doesn't hurt to dress up.
Good luck! |
For those wondering how much a loan underwriting is from the Amy Johnson Initiative:
"Offering loan underwriting of around £100,000 for six female, new entrant pilots – our ‘Amy Johnson recruits’" Source: Diversity | Diversifying our workforce | easyJet |
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Hi helski, 2 things, do you know any route 3 people? And also what is the "easyjet exam standard" for the ATPL exams?.
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I believe its around 80% the exam standard is. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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Does anyone know what the "Airline Process" stage entails? It is the stage after stage 3, so I suppose you could call it stage 4.
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Originally Posted by AFLYINGSCOTSMAN
(Post 9810468)
Hi helski, 2 things, do you know any route 3 people? And also what is the "easyjet exam standard" for the ATPL exams?.
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Hi are you route 3 at oaa or ctc?
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I'm at CTC
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Enjoying it so far (even with the evident massive workload)? How far in are you?
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How do you find route 3 overall? is it considerably different to routes 1 and 2, other than the price and licence type what are the practical differences of the training course? are you treated as easy cadets or whitetail? is there definitely a job at the end or is it more of a hold pool type situation in which you won't have to re do testing?
Just that if i'm successful i'll definitely be route 3 so trynna learn as much as pos about it haha |
Originally Posted by o_rey28
(Post 9812796)
Enjoying it so far (even with the evident massive workload)? How far in are you?
Originally Posted by wils180
(Post 9813071)
How do you find route 3 overall? is it considerably different to routes 1 and 2, other than the price and licence type what are the practical differences of the training course? are you treated as easy cadets or whitetail? is there definitely a job at the end or is it more of a hold pool type situation in which you won't have to re do testing?
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I'm MPL route 1 set to start in September. The issue I'm having was that BBVA denied me due to income related issues. Cut the story short both my parents have been ill in recent years and cannot continue their occupations. I have a financial adviser whom said if I can give him my work contract and my father gets permanent work then there is a loan available. The current situation is that I have work and my father is working as bank staff and cannot get permanent employment for at least 3 months. This leaves me stuck with a route 1 offer from Ezy and CTC but no means of finance. I'm really stuck for what to do next, my start date is 2 months away and I've ran out of options.
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Have you discussed with the flight school about moving your start date? Discuss with them as much as possible as they are the ones that can help you the most except the finance. Hope you get it sorted!
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Since you're Route 1 you could ask Easyjet themselves, after all they said they would consider guaranteeing the loans of "exceptional" Route 1 candidates. Other than that, I think your only option with Easyjet would be to try and buy time and see what other options you could consider.
Alternatively, I wouldn't be surprised if Aer Lingus open their programme in the next couple of months, it is fully funded by the airline and if you're of the sort of calibre for Easyjet Route 1 (which from what I have seen is rarely awarded) then you'd probably be in with a reasonable chance with them too. |
I've tried everything, September is the final start date, CTC have said that if I don't start by Sept then there is a risk that they will drop me down to route 2. I've even emailed the easyJet flight operations manager and they say "the funding is currently used up for this year". Also i'd love to apply to Aer Lingus but is it worth letting easyJet lapse and going for it? The last thing I want is to end up back at square one with no airline offer. In addition I feel that I was lucky with easyJet since ITV was filming "easyJet inside the cockpit" on my selection day and I volunteered to be filmed for the show. Considering i'd of been nervous and wanting to concentrate on being selected, nevermind the additional stress of being filmed for ITV. I feel the volunteering may have helped my application, not that it should've but its a possibility.
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Understandably, after having been offered Easyjet Route 1 that will be your preferred option, however being able to take it unfortunately seems to be dependent on the finance side of things. So, you may have to take Easyjet Route 2 or apply for other programmes depending on the funding you have available, some of which are recruiting at the moment. In the meantime don't allow yourself to become too attached to the Easyjet Route 1 option.
You do have to remember that you're in a pretty strong position, from what you say, you'll likely have access to finance towards the end of the year and you actually know what you need to do in order to be selected. Plenty of people don't have either, some have one or the other, comparatively few will go into a recruitment process with both. |
ve even emailed the easyJet flight operations manager and they say "the funding is currently used up for this year". Cases like this show how broken the whole flight training industry is. In short, Ezy have decided that you're a perfect candidate but are willing to hire someone else, possibly of lower suitability, unless you can find 100,000+. If this was a different industry it would be a national scandal |
Has anyone heard any more news regarding flexicrew being discontinued in the future?
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I spoke with a friend who works for easyJet and asked this very question a few days ago. Basically it is in the pipeline to be scrapped but not definite. I'm led to believe that it was due to a dispute with BALPA over contracts which is due to be reassessed in the near future so things may change.
On another note.....I'm on day 2 next week and when researching the airline I have noticed a lot of conflicting information on their website in their figures....has anyone else noticed this? I worry slightly as the questionnaire we had to send off was based on some facts I'd found that only match part of the website. It'll be interesting if quizzes on it during the interview! |
Originally Posted by ManUtd1999
(Post 9817313)
Interesting given that HTC are still advertising the possibility of loan guarantees on their website.....
Cases like this show how broken the whole flight training industry is. In short, Ezy have decided that you're a perfect candidate but are willing to hire someone else, possibly of lower suitability, unless you can find 100,000+. If this was a different industry it would be a national scandal |
Originally Posted by flyingintheclouds
(Post 9817325)
Has anyone heard any more news regarding flexicrew being discontinued in the future?
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I was told by easyJet's recruitment manager for pilots that it would definitely be gone by the time I've finished my training (Oct/Nov 2018), but that what it is being replaced with is still under negotiation.
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Sounds like good news then and as previously mentioned would make sense it being a Second Officer contract.
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Hi Guys,
Just left school and I'm looking forward to potentially applying for this in a few months. What do you think makes an applicant stand out when applying for a cadet program? Furthermore, what should I be doing in the coming months to help bolster my application? |
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