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sooc 12th Jun 2017 16:47

L3/CTC stage 2 tests are as stated on Pilot George's blog: 15 multiple choice mental maths questions followed by a series of aptitude tests. No physics!

sooc 12th Jun 2017 18:40

I agree that the interview/group exercise stages may be different, but I sat the easyJet stage 2 assessment at Dibden Manor a few weeks ago and it was exactly as I (and George) described!

o_rey28 13th Jun 2017 13:11

Good to hear/read! Good luck to all those mid application, maybe I'll see some of you at my stage 2 on 26th July!

FlyYorkshire 15th Jun 2017 00:25

Questions regarding CTC route!
 
Hi guys,

I'm new to the forum but have been following some threads regarding Genertation easyJet! I applied last week through the CTC course and heard back today that I've made it to the selection days, I just have a few questions!

1) I've read the forums and information on the website surrounding the cost of the course and loans but from what I've read I understand this may be paid by easyJet, is this only highly talented candidates or is this something everyone receives? Just some general more in depth information then is available on the website would be useful!

2) My email states specifically that I've made it onto 'easyJet route 3 selection', does this mean I've already been given this route or could I be assigned a different one should I be successful?

3) Finally, does anyone have an idea of the chances of success in interview (i.e. How many people make it onto the course)? With the high cost of the selection day and with myself being only 18, it is a large cost to me and I just wondered what the chances of success are if we have any indication at all!

I know these questions are quite basic so forgive me if I've repeated anything already mentioned! Good luck to everyone applying this year! :D

gbotley 15th Jun 2017 10:08


Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire (Post 9802457)
1) I've read the forums and information on the website surrounding the cost of the course and loans but from what I've read I understand this may be paid by easyJet, is this only highly talented candidates or is this something everyone receives? Just some general more in depth information then is available on the website would be useful!

From what I understand, Route 1 & subsequent funding is available to 'exceptional' candidates. That definition is very much easyJet's to make, albeit I believe you must perform well both in academia and selection. To date I have only personally met one individual funded by the airline. That is not, however, to say more do not exist across the scheme for these schools have hundreds of cadets and it's impossible for everyone to know everyone! Best tip here, apply with the understanding you will be funding it. Anything else will be a bonus. Don't rely on the funding to make your dream, as it might in fact do the opposite.


Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire (Post 9802457)
2) My email states specifically that I've made it onto 'easyJet route 3 selection', does this mean I've already been given this route or could I be assigned a different one should I be successful?

Based on this I would presume you do not qualify for Route 1/2. What are your grades if you don't mind me asking?


Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire (Post 9802457)
3) Finally, does anyone have an idea of the chances of success in interview (i.e. How many people make it onto the course)? With the high cost of the selection day and with myself being only 18, it is a large cost to me and I just wondered what the chances of success are if we have any indication at all!

Impossible to give exact numbers, but it's certainly a fair number at L3 since it started. There's a couple, if not more, easyJet cadets per new course it seems.

ScotWings 15th Jun 2017 10:11

If it's any indication, in my class of 24 at L3, around 14 are easyJet. New course roughly every 3 or 4 weeks. Big numbers.

FlyYorkshire 15th Jun 2017 11:02


Originally Posted by gbotley (Post 9802735)
Based on this I would presume you do not qualify for Route 1/2. What are your grades if you don't mind me asking?

I’m just completing A-Levels now but have predicted grades of A*AA? Is it the fact that they’re predicted that has limited this?

Does anyone know what positives/negatives there are to the Integrated ATPL course? Will taking route 3 limit me in any way?

Thanks @scotwings for the info, sounds like they’re really pushing it atm!

gbotley 15th Jun 2017 11:44


Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire (Post 9802781)
I’m just completing A-Levels now but have predicted grades of A*AA? Is it the fact that they’re predicted that has limited this?

I would have thought so yes. While the website does claim you can still apply with predicted grades, you will have to attain them to secure Route 1 or 2. Such, they may have allocated you a route three day for that purpose. I am of course speculating as only the selection team will know for sure.

For the sake of clearing confusion.. here is the website text:


To qualify for the easyJet MPL or the MPL Upgrade, you must also hold:


* A minimum of 2 A Levels grades C or above (excluding General Studies and Critical Thinking); or
* A degree grade 2:2 or above

You may apply to the program with predicted grades but they must be achieved on commencement of training.
ScotWings numbers seem right to be honest, although the numbers are quite variable over CPs it would seem. Some have 3 members - such as mine, others considerably more!

EDIT: To add, Route 3 is essentially the Integrated route that all Whitetail cadets at L3 would follow with the advantage of a conditional job offer just like Route 1/2 so in that regard it would still result in the RHS of an A319/20/21 at EZY. It would just cost more given you're following a non-MPL route.

Millasaurus 15th Jun 2017 11:48


Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire (Post 9802781)
I’m just completing A-Levels now but have predicted grades of A*AA? Is it the fact that they’re predicted that has limited this?

Does anyone know what positives/negatives there are to the Integrated ATPL course? Will taking route 3 limit me in any way?

Thanks @scotwings for the info, sounds like they’re really pushing it atm!

Route 3 will take slightly longer and will cost more overall, but you will end up flying for easyJet just the same as a cadet on Route 1 or 2, holding an ATPL licence as opposed to an MPL. (There are quite a few posts online explaining the differences between the licences, I'd recommend gbotley's excellent blog). easyJet will also send you a conditional offer of employment once you are confirmed on the course, as they do with the other routes.

EGPF 15th Jun 2017 11:56


Originally Posted by FlyYorkshire (Post 9802781)
I’m just completing A-Levels now but have predicted grades of A*AA? Is it the fact that they’re predicted that has limited this?

Does anyone know what positives/negatives there are to the Integrated ATPL course? Will taking route 3 limit me in any way?

Thanks @scotwings for the info, sounds like they’re really pushing it atm!

This is the Route 3 information:

"This route provides a further opportunity to join easyJet for those who successfully complete selection and begin the Integrated ATPL route, but are not shortlisted to upgrade to MPL on completion of Theoretical Knowledge exams and do meet easyJet criteria, OR do not hold the academic qualifications required for the MPL route. You will continue on the Integrated ATPL route, completing the Intermediate phase of training tailored to easyJet A320 aircraft and Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs). Upon successful completion of training you'll then launch an exciting flying career as an easyJet Co-Pilot on completion of A320 type rating, base and line training."

I'm not particularly sure but good thing is that you get a frozen ATPL I believe but correct me if I'm wrong. You won't have a chance of getting your loan underwritten and the cost is £123,800 which includes your type rating.

To be completely honest, the integrated program is pretty much the standard package that L3CTS offers so you might want to read this https://www.l3airlineacademy.com/car...ntegrated-atpl
however your airline placement is likely to be easyJet rather than any other airline.

gbotley 15th Jun 2017 12:07

Thanks for the share Millasaurus, although no doubt the link will be removed as the mods tend to hate people sharing blogs it seems. A quick Google of MPL vs ATPL will find you all of the results you would need for any comparison FlyYorkshire. In training alongside MPL cadets on the daily, I have to say I'm quite impressed with the structure/delivery of the flight stage of training. A lot the MPL is teaching a fair few components in the simulator where mistakes can be made before then going and doing it in the air in the real deal. I personally prefer this approach in the sense you get over the stress of being introduced to new concepts during the sim component. But hey, everyone's different.

flyingintheclouds 15th Jun 2017 16:40

Does anyone have any info about the route 2 MPL upgrade regarding what you need to achieve at groundschool, how many people have been upgraded, what happens if you aren't upgraded etc? It's quite vague.

Millasaurus 15th Jun 2017 19:40

75% (a pass) in each subject and no more than 3 fails is what's required to be eligible for an upgrade. However, obviously the better you do the more likely it is that you will be upgraded. As mentioned it depends on the number of cadets already on the MPL as well.

o_rey28 18th Jun 2017 19:22

To anyone who has completed the stage 3 assessment, how long was the period of time between the two assessments and was it the same booking process as with the stage 2 assessment?

31Pilot 20th Jun 2017 16:04

I thought I'd share my experience. I applied to the Generation EasyJet programme last year about July, I only sat my technical day in March (long story).

If you are going to CTC I would say SkyTest is the closest you will get to the actual tests you will experience that day. I couldn't get the audio to work with SkyTest through my PC but they very kindly issued me a license for iPad. I wouldn't recommend using the iPad for anything requiring the joystick as the on-screen control is not helpful. I would use the auto-trainer function as it pushes you to the limits but you will find on the day when you sit the test that it's pushed you further than you need.

The maths test is multiple choice and I highly recommend using latestpilotjobs.com, merely for practicing quick calculations. You only get 1 A5 (half of A4) sheet of paper and I had several square route and currency conversion questions which I had to answer using educated guesses. I passed this section of the test (I didn't ask for my score).

matt283 21st Jun 2017 18:14

quick question: what is the dress code for stage 2 assessment? ;)

flyingintheclouds 21st Jun 2017 19:25

I would advise wearing a suit and tie at all stages. It's a professional job you're going for and it doesn't hurt to dress up.
Good luck!

EGPF 22nd Jun 2017 22:19

For those wondering how much a loan underwriting is from the Amy Johnson Initiative:

"Offering loan underwriting of around £100,000 for six female, new entrant
pilots – our ‘Amy Johnson recruits’"

Source: Diversity | Diversifying our workforce | easyJet

AFLYINGSCOTSMAN 23rd Jun 2017 14:44

Ground school
 
Hi helski, 2 things, do you know any route 3 people? And also what is the "easyjet exam standard" for the ATPL exams?.

Cheers

EGPF 23rd Jun 2017 21:38

I believe its around 80% the exam standard is. Correct me if i'm wrong.

o_rey28 24th Jun 2017 08:48

Does anyone know what the "Airline Process" stage entails? It is the stage after stage 3, so I suppose you could call it stage 4.

Millasaurus 24th Jun 2017 15:36


Originally Posted by AFLYINGSCOTSMAN (Post 9810468)
Hi helski, 2 things, do you know any route 3 people? And also what is the "easyjet exam standard" for the ATPL exams?.

I am Route 3 if you were looking for somebody to answer some questions about the route. As far as the exam standard goes, it's simply a pass (75%) in every subject, and no more than 3 fails.

wils180 25th Jun 2017 10:28

Hi are you route 3 at oaa or ctc?

Millasaurus 26th Jun 2017 11:47

I'm at CTC

o_rey28 26th Jun 2017 12:23

Enjoying it so far (even with the evident massive workload)? How far in are you?

wils180 26th Jun 2017 18:05

How do you find route 3 overall? is it considerably different to routes 1 and 2, other than the price and licence type what are the practical differences of the training course? are you treated as easy cadets or whitetail? is there definitely a job at the end or is it more of a hold pool type situation in which you won't have to re do testing?

Just that if i'm successful i'll definitely be route 3 so trynna learn as much as pos about it haha

Millasaurus 27th Jun 2017 16:11


Originally Posted by o_rey28 (Post 9812796)
Enjoying it so far (even with the evident massive workload)? How far in are you?

Yes, the workload is massive, there's a huge amount to learn, but absolutely. I'm halfway through ground school right now.


Originally Posted by wils180 (Post 9813071)
How do you find route 3 overall? is it considerably different to routes 1 and 2, other than the price and licence type what are the practical differences of the training course? are you treated as easy cadets or whitetail? is there definitely a job at the end or is it more of a hold pool type situation in which you won't have to re do testing?

At the ground school stage it is no different to any of the other routes, the differences are in the flying stages (MPL is a couple of months shorter, you do less flying, and no CPL & IR exams). If you are Route 1, 2, or 3 you are an easyJet cadet, and there is a job at the end, you will sign a conditional offer of employment before you start. Provided you progress through the course, passing the tests, you will enter employment with easyJet at the end of your training, no hold pool. Route 3 is essentially the same course as whitetail, but you start knowing you already have a job at the end of training.

GazG 28th Jun 2017 01:40

I'm MPL route 1 set to start in September. The issue I'm having was that BBVA denied me due to income related issues. Cut the story short both my parents have been ill in recent years and cannot continue their occupations. I have a financial adviser whom said if I can give him my work contract and my father gets permanent work then there is a loan available. The current situation is that I have work and my father is working as bank staff and cannot get permanent employment for at least 3 months. This leaves me stuck with a route 1 offer from Ezy and CTC but no means of finance. I'm really stuck for what to do next, my start date is 2 months away and I've ran out of options.

flyingintheclouds 28th Jun 2017 07:13

Have you discussed with the flight school about moving your start date? Discuss with them as much as possible as they are the ones that can help you the most except the finance. Hope you get it sorted!

Chris the Robot 28th Jun 2017 10:28

Since you're Route 1 you could ask Easyjet themselves, after all they said they would consider guaranteeing the loans of "exceptional" Route 1 candidates. Other than that, I think your only option with Easyjet would be to try and buy time and see what other options you could consider.

Alternatively, I wouldn't be surprised if Aer Lingus open their programme in the next couple of months, it is fully funded by the airline and if you're of the sort of calibre for Easyjet Route 1 (which from what I have seen is rarely awarded) then you'd probably be in with a reasonable chance with them too.

GazG 28th Jun 2017 10:41

I've tried everything, September is the final start date, CTC have said that if I don't start by Sept then there is a risk that they will drop me down to route 2. I've even emailed the easyJet flight operations manager and they say "the funding is currently used up for this year". Also i'd love to apply to Aer Lingus but is it worth letting easyJet lapse and going for it? The last thing I want is to end up back at square one with no airline offer. In addition I feel that I was lucky with easyJet since ITV was filming "easyJet inside the cockpit" on my selection day and I volunteered to be filmed for the show. Considering i'd of been nervous and wanting to concentrate on being selected, nevermind the additional stress of being filmed for ITV. I feel the volunteering may have helped my application, not that it should've but its a possibility.

Chris the Robot 28th Jun 2017 12:27

Understandably, after having been offered Easyjet Route 1 that will be your preferred option, however being able to take it unfortunately seems to be dependent on the finance side of things. So, you may have to take Easyjet Route 2 or apply for other programmes depending on the funding you have available, some of which are recruiting at the moment. In the meantime don't allow yourself to become too attached to the Easyjet Route 1 option.

You do have to remember that you're in a pretty strong position, from what you say, you'll likely have access to finance towards the end of the year and you actually know what you need to do in order to be selected. Plenty of people don't have either, some have one or the other, comparatively few will go into a recruitment process with both.

ManUtd1999 30th Jun 2017 16:53


ve even emailed the easyJet flight operations manager and they say "the funding is currently used up for this year".
Interesting given that HTC are still advertising the possibility of loan guarantees on their website.....

Cases like this show how broken the whole flight training industry is. In short, Ezy have decided that you're a perfect candidate but are willing to hire someone else, possibly of lower suitability, unless you can find 100,000+. If this was a different industry it would be a national scandal

flyingintheclouds 30th Jun 2017 17:08

Has anyone heard any more news regarding flexicrew being discontinued in the future?

jimi_riddler 30th Jun 2017 17:43

I spoke with a friend who works for easyJet and asked this very question a few days ago. Basically it is in the pipeline to be scrapped but not definite. I'm led to believe that it was due to a dispute with BALPA over contracts which is due to be reassessed in the near future so things may change.

On another note.....I'm on day 2 next week and when researching the airline I have noticed a lot of conflicting information on their website in their figures....has anyone else noticed this? I worry slightly as the questionnaire we had to send off was based on some facts I'd found that only match part of the website. It'll be interesting if quizzes on it during the interview!

momo95 30th Jun 2017 18:47


Originally Posted by ManUtd1999 (Post 9817313)
Interesting given that HTC are still advertising the possibility of loan guarantees on their website.....

Cases like this show how broken the whole flight training industry is. In short, Ezy have decided that you're a perfect candidate but are willing to hire someone else, possibly of lower suitability, unless you can find 100,000+. If this was a different industry it would be a national scandal

Indeed morals are rarely high on the agenda in this game ... unless it's for an advertisement campaign

gbotley 1st Jul 2017 05:21


Originally Posted by flyingintheclouds (Post 9817325)
Has anyone heard any more news regarding flexicrew being discontinued in the future?

Not official by any means, but the rumour mill suggests it'll begin to be phased out come September/October. What will replace it remains to be seen but if I'm allowed to speculate I'd imagine it'd require a longer amount of time on the SO contract a Flexi cadet would otherwise transfer to once permanent.

Millasaurus 1st Jul 2017 09:15

I was told by easyJet's recruitment manager for pilots that it would definitely be gone by the time I've finished my training (Oct/Nov 2018), but that what it is being replaced with is still under negotiation.

flyingintheclouds 1st Jul 2017 14:05

Sounds like good news then and as previously mentioned would make sense it being a Second Officer contract.

Captain Benji 1st Jul 2017 18:44

Hi Guys,

Just left school and I'm looking forward to potentially applying for this in a few months.
What do you think makes an applicant stand out when applying for a cadet program? Furthermore, what should I be doing in the coming months to help bolster my application?


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