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Deano777 24th Jul 2015 22:01

Downloading, have a troll back through the pages in this thread, there's some good information within.

Downloading 24th Jul 2015 22:11

Hi Deano, thanks for your reply.

I've been searching and searching for days, reading these threads over and over. I see a lot of chat about JOC requirements etc, however I'm curious as to the more specific info such as system knowledge etc etc. I hear they like there weather questions as supposed to 'tech'? Can anyone verify this. Seems odd to me, but then again, I haven't been there yet to find out. Thanks again..

Deano777 25th Jul 2015 10:15

There won't be any questions that are designed to catch you out, nothing to trip you up and nothing untowards. As I've said before on this thread it is generally a straight forward, good old fashioned HR type interview with a few tech questions thrown in. The tech questions are not difficult and if you've done your ATPLs recently there will be no issues at all. I'll give you one example of how straight forward they are - explain induced drag.
That isn't one of the questions as far as I am aware but you get the idea, and I'm not prepared to give all the details of the interview on here because that defeats the exercise and they'll just change the format because management do read these boards and posts. If you can demonstrate you have done your homework on Flybe, demonstrate you have a good understanding of a few simple tech questions, demonstrate that you will not be a training risk and demonstrate that you are not an ass then you'll get through to sim check, and whether we like it or not, your first type rating will be one of the toughest things you have ever done and some pilots do struggle with it, they also struggle with the Dash 8 as well because it isn't as easy to handle as some might lead you to believe. One thing Flybe can't afford to do is put someone through who's going to struggle because we simply don't have the training capacity to deal with failures at the moment. One thing I will say though, and I've said it on here many times, is make sure you know your stuff about the company. If you go to interview and you don't know about Flybe then you will NOT get through.

Good luck.

Chesty Morgan 25th Jul 2015 10:37

I did.

First question

- tell us what you know about us?

Me - Absolutely nothing. I first heard of you two days ago and I've not had a chance to research anything.

- ok, what's adverse yaw?

- I then went on to explain in detail induced drag.

A week later I was in Exeter.

True story.

Deano777 25th Jul 2015 10:49

Chesty, that was some time ago no doubt. I can assure you that is slightly different now.

Chesty Morgan 25th Jul 2015 10:56

It was. In fact they were still Jersey European.

In no way am I condoning turning up factless. I was lucky because they must've been desperate:}

Deano777 25th Jul 2015 10:58

I know that feeling :D:ok:

LandingConfig 25th Jul 2015 11:50

Have prospects increased for those with turboprop time only? Do airlines still favour jet time over total time as much as they used to?

Wodka 25th Jul 2015 19:01

Flybe DHC8 F/O recruitment
 
Can't speak for Flybe but BACF are hoovering up Turboprop guys at the moment

jethrolx 25th Jul 2015 20:22

Just to follow on my question in another thread, what is flybe' attitude towards older candidates? At 36, is need to redo my theory and finish my flight training, but am reluctant to do so on the advice I received that said is oils never get into an airline because in too old!

Deano777 26th Jul 2015 00:45

Flybe do not discriminate. They take on old, young, straight from flying school, current airline pilots, from CTC, MPL, fATPL, modular, integrated and from a whole plethora of different backgrounds. If you're not a training risk and you fit the profile they'll take you. If you haven't got their minimum requirement before applying then think twice about applying until you do.

Good luck

Jwscud 26th Jul 2015 08:39

One of the big reasons Flybe is hiring is due to the large number of pilots leaving to BA, FlyDubai &c - so no, turboprop time has no retardation on your career.

ITFC1 27th Jul 2015 19:50

I applied when it first opened up again, i think it was near the end of last year, I've not heard a thing apart from the standard email that came out recently.

I have 2800TT, 900 jet 1200 turbine.

Deano777 28th Jul 2015 13:33

The team dealing with recruitment consists of one person. Just hang in there.

papazulu 28th Jul 2015 13:43


Just hang in there.
Is there any "average" waiting time for experienced (non-airline) guys or is it just completely random? Same situation than ITFC1, similar figure but no jet time...

PZ :sad:

Deano777 28th Jul 2015 15:33

I'm not sure to be honest, but what I would suggest is keep your details up to date on your application should the system allow you to do it.

CaptainCriticalAngle 4th Aug 2015 23:01

Salaries
 
Hi, is this still accurate? (from PilotJobsNetwork). For Q400?

Capt top £73221
Capt base £60565
FO top £46490
FO base £28378

Deano777 5th Aug 2015 10:25

That's correct, add a few thousand per year to those figures for duty pay

clamchowder 5th Aug 2015 10:53

"plethora of different backgrounds." Makes Flybe sound open minded, reasonable and clued up on initial pilot training.
Less than a year ago I got an email explaining if you had been out of training for over 6 months they weren't interested.
Another email said you should only apply if you want to be a career Q400 pilot :rolleyes: Wakeup Flybe

Deano777 5th Aug 2015 13:46

Regardless of what email clamchowder received that simply isn't the case. I know of a number of guys with minimum hours that have been out of training for over two years with just a fATPL who have got in recently. I think all they require is 50hrs flying in the previous rolling 12 months. That's stipulated in the online application is it not?

CaptainCriticalAngle 5th Aug 2015 15:15

Salaries
 
As I plan to be a captain within 5 years, that's not a bad salary range, not the best, but good nevertheless.

And btw, I love turboprops ... Q400, Twotter, 340, 2000, 228, Grand Caravan ...

MetalGear 12th Aug 2015 10:07

Is the 90% ATPL exam requirement set in stone or are people getting in with less? I sit at 88% myself, would I be mad to put that on my cv on initial application or just mention it at interview if I were so lucky to be invited? Cheers guys.

B_Con_Outbound 13th Aug 2015 13:47

A tiny bird told me there are over 15.000 names in FlyBe's database right now. Probably half of the names are already flying somewhere else.

So if there is only one guy who has to go through all the names .......good luck.

Deano777 13th Aug 2015 23:25

I don't think the numbers are really relevant, 15,000 or 150,000, what difference does it make? I would imagine the online application has a filter, and then you just work down the list and call in the relevant people. How deep the list goes is only relevant if you hit the bottom and you still haven't got enough recruits.

flying apprentice 14th Aug 2015 07:16

One ATO ?
 
How strict are they about being trained at one ATO ?

I did a non EASA PPL first
Then did the 14 ATPL exams with another ATO
Then did CPL in the USA and my IR in Europe with another two different ATOs.

So really don't fit the modular students must go you one ATO requirement. Is it still worth me applying with a TR, 300 jet hours right now and 850 hours total ?

Anybody else got in with similar background ?

MetalGear 20th Aug 2015 13:53

"Is the 90% ATPL exam requirement set in stone or are people getting in with less? I sit at 88% myself, would I be mad to put that on my cv on initial application or just mention it at interview if I were so lucky to be invited? Cheers guys."

Any takers?

cgwhitemonk11 20th Aug 2015 14:21

The 90% thing...
 
To answer the question regarding the 90%. Having spoken to the pilots who run the interviews they are aware this is a nonsensical requirement but it has been set by HR with the attitude that if people with that score apply then they are obviously the best candidates. Ridiculous I know and there is an awareness of this but unfortunately it is not the pilots who select the candidates, we just turn up for the interviews. Could you get in without it, probably, especially in the current climate of being called on every single day off due to lack of crew but the reality is no one quite knows how the candidates are selected through the system, thats a HR mystery, and as you can imagine most pilots tend to stay as far away from them as possible.

Not the most helpful post I realise but thats all i've got. Regarding the singular ATO for training, again this seems a ridiculous requirement in this day and age and I would certainly apply with the plan of explaining your reasons once you got an invitation. But again I am unsure as to wether the system that screens the applicants will automatically rule you out. I fly regularly with guys on the interview panel and they honestly don't know exactly what the screening process looks for.

MetalGear 20th Aug 2015 15:52

That's great, thanks for the reply. I guess I'll throw my hat in the ring anyway.

clamchowder 23rd Aug 2015 08:41

It's easier to get a job with ezy or ryan than flybe. why waste your time? more money and job security too.

Deano777 23rd Aug 2015 10:06

Because you have to open your wallet, probably.

Otto Throttle 23rd Aug 2015 13:46

The idea that HR have anything to do with pilot recruitment or setting selection criteria is nonsense. It is handled, quite rightly, internally by the Flight Ops department and has been for many years. Most of the criteria were laid down under a previous, unlamented, frizzy haired management regime, which was notorious for its arbitrary policy making in many areas, including recruitment.

As for the recruiters themselves, the interview criteria are clearly specified. As to why the criteria is what it is, see above.

cgwhitemonk11 23rd Aug 2015 15:38

For the poster above I was using the term HR as a cover all for HR/Flight Ops but I can understand i should have been clearer, regardless they shall continue in their own way but surely with the mass exodus the tipping point is approaching. It is simply not acceptable for an airline to be cancelling flights on a daily basis due to lack of pilots and expecting customers to put up with it

GAZ45 7th Sep 2015 21:25

I hear that a 'long radio silence' should be expected after applying to Flybe. All of the people I know waited a long time to hear back.

Although the other day I spoke to an oxford guy who claimed a friend of his was called to interview 3 weeks after applying 'through oxford' - didn't even know this was occurring. I also finished training alongside some oxford guys I know who have been called to ryanair within weeks of finishing training. I guess there is truth in the notion that CAE plonk their students CVs straight ontop of the pile then?

Us modulars will wait patiently in line

goaround737 11th Sep 2015 12:13

With respect, i think it also depends on the quality of your application. I'm modular, i got a call for interview 6 days after applying.

RWY_31R 21st Sep 2015 09:09

part time flying
 
Are there opportunities for going part time with Flybe?

Deano777 21st Sep 2015 10:34

In effect, no. You won't see part time awarded for the foreseeable future. There's currently a waiting list for part time working in virtually every base, and without any being awarded to those on the front line, if you are a new joiner your chances are just about zero.

Happy Wanderer 29th Sep 2015 11:33

I notice that Kura Aviation now seem to be placing a number of modular grads with Flybe if their Twitter feed is anything to go by and I've heard from two different sources that the airline will currently only look at FO applicants who have been through the Kura BESTPILOT airline preparation process. It may well be that Kura have been contracted as some sort of 'finishing school' provider.

Can anyone on the inside confirm or deny this please?

HW

maxed-out 29th Sep 2015 17:23

It is true. They also had/have a link with BACF but BACF now appear to be in bed with CTC. If you want to spend circa 14k for a glorified JOC then go ahead. Flybe have been taking modular guys for years without the need for this "finishing school"!

Remember, the deal is that they will put you forward for interview following satisfactory completion of this course. You could have a bad day and flop in the interview. And the money keeps on rolling in.....

Sit tight, the market is improving. If you have to spend 14k then buy a TR on something useful. It is not good value to spend that on a JOC with the promise of an interview.

This is just my opinion of course.
mo

jamie2004 29th Sep 2015 19:40

I was chatting to an ex British Calendonian Captain yesterday who wasn't aware of the current 'finding your first flying job' situation, he was horrified. It was interesting to hear his opinion on it. I know times have changed however it is a terrible shame that it can't be a level playing field considering we all have the same ticket in our hands when starting out.

I know money talks however paying 14K for a course certainly doesn't separate the men from the boys. Especially when we have already jumped through numerous hoops along the way.

I hope Flybe continue to recruit guys from all backgrounds, even those who haven't chosen to enrol on a course which isn't even reflected on your licence.

I have applied and am still waiting patiently for a call with my head held high.

:ugh:

Primary Governor 12th Oct 2015 09:08

Silly question I'm sure but here it goes anyway!

Do Flybe pay for any travel costs to attend interview in Exeter?


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