So what have people found the best way of learning this language is? Audio books don't seem to work for me!

I've been learning German for about 7 years now and I can tell you, don't expect to pick it up within days! If you read Mark Twain's essay titled "The Awful German Language" you'll understand what I mean!

Here's a quick extract:

My philological studies have satisfied me that a gifted person ought to learn English (barring spelling and pronouncing) in thirty hours, French in thirty days, and German in thirty years. It seems manifest, then, that the latter tongue ought to be trimmed down and repaired. If it is to remain as it is, it ought to be gently and reverently set aside among the dead languages, for only the dead have time to learn it.

German vocabulary isn't so much of a problem, the grammar is the big issue! I have a book called "Collins Easy Learning German Grammar" which is very detailed but it is aimed at people that have learnt languages before (or perhaps studied in-depth the grammar of the English language). If you're very serious about learning German and have a few spare pennies I'd thoroughly recommend staying in Germany for a few weeks and attending a Goethe Institut course. Take a look here Learn German in Germany ? German courses and exams - Learn German at the Goethe-Instituts in Germany*-*Goethe-Institut*
Viel Glück!
Callum.

If you think german grammatic is difficult, try polish...

Anyway, doing a german course in a goethe institute (either in your home country or in germany) is probably the best idea.

If you try to live in germany for a while to pick up the language be careful where in germany you learn it, there are quite different accents within the country, some are so bad that other germans do not understand it.

Oh, so it happens in Germany too. :}

@ JonnyTheCrayfish

I'm 34 and just passed the DLR for Cityline and have an appointment in Berlin for my sim grading. I assume they would not go through all this trouble (reserving an expensive sim hour with two highly payed instructors) if there was an age limit of 33.

Question: Does anyone know how long your DLR test results stay valid??

@ B_Con_Outbound,

whats your ~ level of german? (or maybe you are german speaking?)

any rough estimate would help to calibrate!
did you take it for a/as-levels?

thanks
Mike

Sorry for the silly question, but could someone please define "Ready Entries"? I mean for example for Cityline and Germanwings it says no hours required, so what are the requirements to make you a "ready entry"?

Cheers

Hi fellas, silly question but what is the DLR that everyone is talking about?

I'm in Australia and havent come across this yet.

Do you need a JAA licence for these positions?

Cheers, HHH

DLR is a psychological evaluation conducted in Hamburg, Germany at an aviation psychology institute, so to say.

Since you will be living in and flying from JAA-countries you must have JAA-licenses/ratings/classes/atpl-theory etc.

Hi everyone here,

I will shortly describe my experience with German language. I decided last year to quit my job in a small french airline and take some fresh air in Germany (to learn the language and have this experience before I turn 30, as I was a volunteer in an organisation). I left France beginning october and arrived in a very small place in south Germany near Constance lake-Bodensee. My previous contact with the language was merely more than doing a cd based method. I attended 2 german courses during my time there (all paid for by my organisation, of course) on top of my work in a german school as a french language assistant. After 3 months, my german was already enough for short conversations (better understanding than speaking), after 6 months it was quite fluent and now it is fluent. My last language course was a B1+ language course and I had the level required for that (I assume my level is about B2+ now, which I should certify with a diploma). My time in Germany finished at the end of July, I have to specify that the accent in that part of Germany is quite different to the others but I kept most of my french accent as it is cute (so they say anyway).
About german grammar, I have to say it is not easy, but if, like me you are motivated, you'll make it!
If you need any more info, then ask!

Now I am in for the DLH Cityline selection process, as it is the only airline in the LH pool that has no sight requirement...

Question:
What is the best for me to prepare for the DLR test?

Danke sehr, I appreciate!

They will send you access details for their website, so you can download some CBTs for your preparation. If you feel practicing with these CBTs isn't enough SkyTest® - Preparation Software for: DLR Test (Lufthansa, LH Italia, Austrian Airlines, Turkish Airlines, Royal Jordanian, SunExpress, DFS), Swiss, Cargolux, FEAST (Eurocontrol), Austro Control, Skyguide offers popular prepware.

Thank you, hvogt! See you in Germany, maybe ;)

Hi all!!

Quick question! A few weeks ago I applied for FO at Lufthansa Cityline after I which I received an email that I had to convert my Dutch secondary school certificate to a German one so that they can continue processing my application. At the moment I am busy doing this but I was wondering, does this mean that I will get an invitation for the DLR as soon as I have sent a German secondary school certificate?

Simulator screening with B737-300 or the Computer Screen "Sim"
 

Could anyone tell me what LH companies uses the B737-300 for sim screening and what companies uses the computer screen "sim"?
I have rating on the B737 so I guess the B737 Sim would give me some advantage. I have read the info material regarding Cityline and it seems to me that they are uses the computer screen, but I'm not sure. I have heard that the LH Italia used the B737-300. What is Germanwings using for sim screening?

And also does anyone know if there is other differences with the LH Cityline, Germanwings on the next phase after you passed DLR GU? I think it is called FQ or FU?

Since I have passed the DLR I would like to only get info on whats next. Thanks!

LH Passage/Germanwings 737 classic

If rated, you have to perform a NDB and a ILS circle to land.
Otherwise just NDB and ILS

Cityline = CRJ in Berlin.

FQ = for the ab inition selection
FU = for ready entries. For all the same! Even if you are applying for GWI, there might be two LH Captains. It's one selection board...

But you'll get a very good handout if your Sim screening date is fixed!
Stick to that hand out and you'll be fine!

Mr CRJ, it just mean that Cityline is interested in your application, but in order to process it they need your translated diploma (well just a paper from the administration stating which german equivalence your high school diploma bears). Then, if your application interests them further, they will invite you for DLR.

Anyone know if city line would waive the language requirement. I have a PIC type rating with 6000 hours on the CRJ. I have germany work permit, U.S. passport and JAA ATPL conversion.

Hello everyone,

I got a letter from Kraftfahrt-Bundesamt that there is no registration in the trafficregister, what does it mean exactly? And do I have to send the letter to LH or just bring it along at the screening?

Thx!

@ Henrsd28:
German language is a requirement. Unfortunately...

@ Wanny:
You need that for the 'Firmenuntersuchung', not yet for the screening.

Can someone confirm there are no abnormals during the sim check for ready-entries (non-type rated)?