Hi guys,

And for those who are already A320 type rated, is the process the same?
Thanks in advance.

Your inbox is full. I can't PM you.

Type Rating for A320/737NG is about 18k EUR (excl. VAT)
Doing my interview next week. Apparently they ditched DLR, they got another system now, hopefully it's easier but I've had no feedback on it

Hello, you already were on screening or you are going for first time? Are you sure about 18k for type rating.

I'm actually doing the first part of the assessment (personal interview & docs check) in my flight school, which also did the screening for THY. 18k is what I, as a recently graduated cadet with no experience, will have to pay. If you're going on a different route maybe it's another price.

Hi guys,

anyone of you was rescheduled ? i am still waiting for the new assesment day ...

I have the assessment later this week can you give more details about the conduct of the day ?
I tried to PM but your box is full ;-)

Hey all! I've been to a presentation from THY. They confirmed that they no longer use the DLR and at the moment they haven't replaced it with anything else. Also salaries for expats (I don't know about locals) have increased. FOs now get on average about 27k TL (about 4k euros) a month. At the beginning you also get 20 days annual working days leave and 7 casual. Type rating for my case still remains at 18k EUR for A320/B737.

Thanks for information, that all seems fair enough. I still hope that i will receive further info from them soon.

:eek: BULL*S*H*I*T THY told you !!

I am at THY, while jumping away ..
So much BULL**** they tell you and you easily accept that? Be smart and think, before you act.
My tip to you is :
Go there only, if you need to built up hours, if you want to fly day and night with almost no rest, if you do not care about safety.

Here, you get the truth:
RE 1: No matter, they won`t be able to hire a high number of pilots for bull**** conditions, if they were continuing the DLR qualifications.
And vice versa, DLR won`t accept to give their good reputations for a bull**** test.

RE 2: Very easy and very sure about: SALARY IS EQUAL FOR LOCALS AND EXPATS!

RE 3: I doubt 27K TL in average !!! Maybe in the Bonus-Month (March, June, Sep, Dec) But not in regular month, without overtime payment and without per diems, etc.
By the way, just to give you an idea, how much worse the situation is: 2 years ago, per-diems were cut from being paid by hourly time away, and if I remember correct, 12h or more was a complete day, into being only, if away 24hours. Also bear in mind the downhill path of TL. The forecast is 7 TL/EUR soon, which will affact the banks in Turkey, who are expacted to crash by 7.1 exchange rate.

RE 4: What is beginning for you (or the THY team). After 1 YEAR !!!! You will be able to benefit from vacation, not a single day before. AND: You ALWAYS in all years of employment, you need to work a full year to be entitleled for the 20days. If you do a month unpaid leave, you loose all!!! There are so many unfair tricks THY uses, so do not count on it. Also: The month you have vacation, you will loose partially OFF days. That means, they do not take the working days for vacation only, but also the OFF days to turn it into vacation days.

RE 5: What a big lie !!! Yes, in my contracts it says so. But depending on the will of the THY, and in real, at this time, no chance. And, if you do get it, you have unpaid leave, resulting in what you see in number 4 above.

RE 6: I highly doubt, that there is a difference in bond or payment for locals and expats. Most probably the difference is, what you qualification you bring with you. On top, actually they do the TR in IST, the costs are in TL. But they ask you, and they have asked the cadet pilots for EUR bond. With the crashing TL, the cadets are not able any more to pay all tha back. Or other pilots, who NEED THEIR SALARY for their live.

For me still excellent chance for job. We, people who dont have eu passport find this as big opportunity. Every company has pros and cons. Anyway thanks for information, it is good to know and to make whole picture of employeer.

I am at THY, while jumping away ..
So much BULL**** they tell you and you easily accept that? Be smart and think, before you act.
My tip to you is :
Go there only, if you need to built up hours, if you want to fly day and night with almost no rest, if you do not care about safety.

Here, you get the truth:
RE 1: No matter, they won`t be able to hire a high number of pilots for bull**** conditions, if they were continuing the DLR qualifications.
And vice versa, DLR won`t accept to give their good reputations for a bull**** test.

RE 2: Very easy and very sure about: SALARY IS EQUAL FOR LOCALS AND EXPATS!

RE 3: I doubt 27K TL in average !!! Maybe in the Bonus-Month (March, June, Sep, Dec) But not in regular month, without overtime payment and without per diems, etc.
By the way, just to give you an idea, how much worse the situation is: 2 years ago, per-diems were cut from being paid by hourly time away, and if I remember correct, 12h or more was a complete day, into being only, if away 24hours. Also bear in mind the downhill path of TL. The forecast is 7 TL/EUR soon, which will affact the banks in Turkey, who are expacted to crash by 7.1 exchange rate.

RE 4: What is beginning for you (or the THY team). After 1 YEAR !!!! You will be able to benefit from vacation, not a single day before. AND: You ALWAYS in all years of employment, you need to work a full year to be entitleled for the 20days. If you do a month unpaid leave, you loose all!!! There are so many unfair tricks THY uses, so do not count on it. Also: The month you have vacation, you will loose partially OFF days. That means, they do not take the working days for vacation only, but also the OFF days to turn it into vacation days.

RE 5: What a big lie !!! Yes, in my contracts it says so. But depending on the will of the THY, and in real, at this time, no chance. And, if you do get it, you have unpaid leave, resulting in what you see in number 4 above.

RE 6: I highly doubt, that there is a difference in bond or payment for locals and expats. Most probably the difference is, what you qualification you bring with you. On top, actually they do the TR in IST, the costs are in TL. But they ask you, and they have asked the cadet pilots for EUR bond. With the crashing TL, the cadets are not able any more to pay all tha back. Or other pilots, who NEED THEIR SALARY for their live.

Don`t play discrimination card
 

Hey nebojsar,
you can`t tell me, that you were not able to find a job somewhere else, can you? Come on, take it easy.
I can tell you, that only 1 ("one") job position I found attractive within EU for the last 4 years, and ALL others, like 50 or more, where outside EU. Also I will not move back to EU, continue as expat in ME/AS area.

Again, if you are a low timer, yes, that might be a very good chance to built up time. On narrow body, you will make 500 hours or more in less than 5 months.
No where else you can get that. Bear in mind, the price you pay for it....

Good luck

I am low timer without eu pass so number of options is really low. I ve asked many eu airlines I ve applied to to sponsor at least eu blue card and none wanted to have anything with it. All seems quite unfair since most of those, especially low costers fly to many non eu destinations yet nationals from those countries cannot apply for position with them. Only bright example is wizz.

FO programs for low-timer
 

I agree, the behaviour of many companies is very unfair and they even make money with new (lowtime) FOs.
So THY is not the only company, making money on back of the employees....

Tip: I do not follow up the market for lowtime pilots, but I remember, a few years ago, several airlines in Turkey did a low time FO program, such as Atlasjet, maybe also Onurair, but also some very small airlines. Sorry, I forgot the name of them. Vueling in Spain did the same, but nor sure, if they do today. Good luck.

But whatever you do, please do not sign a bond in EUR or USD!!
Whach my next post!!!

Thanks for the tip. In my country we have also slipping currency so i know exactly what you mean. I