A frozen ATPL is combination of both a Commerical Pilots License and Instrument Rating, in addition the holder will have taken theoretical exams at ATPL standard. A frozen ATPL is where a pilot has the above qualifications but less than 1500 hours experience, in order to become a captain and hence have an unfrozen ATPL you need to have in addition of 1500 flying hours.

It means that you have just spent a huge amount of money on training but haven't a hope in hell of getting a job...:ugh:

Thank you guys for answers a lot!
One more question: Can I get combination like that PPL+ATPL course (can be in theoritical). Cause one company said that I need PPL +300 hours total flght time and ATPL. Looks like It could be that I can get ATPL after PPL..? Who nows??? Help me please...

And something else.>>>
Do anybody now something about Ukraina`s flight academy in Kirovogrod?
There are learning some guys from Latvia`s air force. Who nows what type of licences do they get there, is it CPL or what..?:sad:

Hi all, I sent my application in on the 15th Feb and still haven't heard anything...I guess no news is good news! When should I expect to hear from them?

Gary

Stage 3 Selection
 

Hi Phil,

You seem to be the gentleman to put questions to, so if u happen to see this question and have a spare moment could you please tell me what to expect at stage 3 selection and how best to prepare myself.

thanks

Furdez,

I doubt you'll find anyone who'll go into much detail on it, partly because there's not a massive amount to tell but partly because you can figure the rest out for yourself so us telling you it all is unneccessary:ok:.

Format-wise (if it is still the same as a year ago) then you fly out 1 day, get taken out to dinner as a group that evening and then each have an individual interview the next day, a tour of the office, before flying home.

In my experience it was not very different to other airline stage 3s, it's NJE's chance to look at you for themselves and the interview is not unpleasant. And I say this as someone who failed the interview too ;)

Best of luck if you're called forward!

BM

thanks very much for your reply, i just have one last question. is the interview technical based or hr based? thanks for your help

Hi all,

I have a question regarding this very same topic. Suppose once I finish doing my integrated ATPL training at Málaga sometime in June/July 2009 with 170 TT, is there any cadet scheme I could join to work with Netjets?

I'm asking on here because I e-mailed them and received no response.

Thanks.

Mohit.

You can't apply for the cadet scheme as you have already started your training. You'll have to wait until you have the minimum 1500 hours now.

This was duscussed in a thread recently. 'Search' should help you.

There are no technical questions asked in either of the interviews involved in the NetJets cadet selection process.

Age?
 

I have a question regarding the 'age' issue.

I am currently studying the IB (International Baccalaureate) programme in Denmark. By the time i graduate, I will be 19 years old.

I understand that Netjets (OAA) does not take in applications based on predicted grades. This means I will probably have to take 6 - 12 months of 'free time' meaning studying aviation books, or doing something to pass time!

I fail to see how age is a determening factor in becoming a pilot. As I hope to see myself flying for Netjets in the future years, this is an issue that greatly concerns me. Surely, they review the applicants individual personality and personal skills - not their birth date?

I hope someone can 'enlighten' me.

NetJets seem to be more keen on people in the mid to late twenties age bracket. When I attended stage 3, there was nobody younger than 21. At the first NetJets selection, 4 of the youngest stage 3 candidates (all around 21) were deferred for a year.

Potential:

Does this mean that there has never been any pilots under 20 applying to OAA for the Netjets programme, and have been accepted?

Does anybody happen to know what it is the mid-late 20 year olds have (besides more defined wrinkles ;)) That a graduated 19 year old does not have?

I have certainly not come across anyone under 21 going to stage 3 and I have closely watched all three of the selections since the scheme started last year. I only know of one 21 year old that has been successful, but there may be others or younger people that I don't know about.

I also know that three 22 year olds were recently accepted onto the scheme after they were deferred at the first stage 3 last year to gain some life experience. In answer to your question then, maybe it could be said that NetJets prefer individuals who have spent some time working in the real world after school & uni.

Some maturity is a real requirement for this job. Life experiences post schooling (whether it be high school or uni) is essential.

You are in contact with some of the world's most influential and wealthy people. When all's well, age/maturity/lack thereof isn't too much of a problem, but when there's a problem, life experience helps you deal with it.
This isn't taught in school or flight school.

As an International student, I have had more life experience than the average high school graduates that I have come across. That being said, there may be individual exceptions.

However, I hope they do not quickly reject an application because the birthday reveals an age younger than 21.

redsnail: I completely agree with you. You are in contact with the worlds most influencial and wealthy people when flying biz. No doubt about it. However, the world has its share of young influencial wealthy people. That being said, having educated young pilots is not an unreal scenario for me. Infact, very plausable - given that the individual applicant has what it takes at the same level of any 22+ applicant.

I guess there is a first time for everything - even 19 year old netjet student pilots. :)

Aria-, I currently do the job you want. I know what the job entails and I have a pretty reasonable idea as to who our owners are and what they expect to see in their crew. I haven't flown with any one younger than 27.

I have only met 1 person in my 42 years that was mature beyond her years when she was 19. She already held a CPL and had already been working as a commercial pilot.

There's nothing stopping you what so ever for applying but, please don't be surprised if they (Netjets Europe) suggest you get some life experience before reapplying. I wish you well and good luck.

From the reading I have done, it appears that you get one shot at the NetJets cadet programme. Considering the observation written here by current cadets and even a NetJets pilot, I think it would be both arrogant and foolish for a 19 year old to apply and waste their one shot on an impetuous application. Why not prove your maturity by taking the good advice offered here and getting some life experience or even a degree if you really want to improve your odds of success?

Redsnail: Was the 19 year old pilot you flew with at Netjets? That would just prove that it is possible in fact.

Adios: I have been thinking about it, and it would perhas do me a lot of good. Work a couple of years, save some money, get a degree in something - and then apply for an airline pilot training programme.

However, I have been thinking, dreaming, and breathing aviation since the day I could walk. I have research aviation schools, various airline programmes for over two years now - even though I still have to wait a whole year to graduate.

Taking 'a couple years off' would be very difficult. If it is necessary - so be it.

However, I do not think it would be nor arrogant or foolish from my side if i decide to apply. I have taken every action and step in my life with the thought of where it will end up taking me. I have aimed for aviation. I have been persistent, and determined all the way and will continue to do so.

I was just asking, if there has ever in the history of netjets been 19/20 year old successfull applicants.