I believe it is currently: Engines/Airframes General; Meteorology; Principles of Flight; IFR communications; VFR communications; Instrumentation; Air law.

Not necessarily in that particular order.

Thanks for that mate!

Anyone doing phase 2 and 3 this week at CTC?

Regards,

hey
 

anyone going to may 11th selection phase 2,3 ? message me!

does anyone knows when is the next intake starting at ctc, UK?
:confused:

I asked this question as it was worrying me. as far as they told me, all the placements they have made with easyjet this year have been cadets, and that quite a lot of these, from this year and the last, now work at easyJet full time! ! !

(oops, reply fail! this was about the amount of cadets ctc were placing on flexi-crew. None this year have been already rated!)

CTC is scaling back their UK placements in particular the training in NZ. So much so that there may not be anymore intakes. Their JAA instructors are leaving as fast as they can and they cannot afford to train more JAA qualified instructors.
The instructors need JAA qualifications to teach the intergrated cadets and the law is changing so that it will be a lot harder for them to get the necessary JAA qualifications. This all makes it to expensive to run the Integrated course. CTCNZ is all about making money and are now targeting the asia market.

alexWCD: CTC didnt even get on the AirNZ perferred training programme list. Are you sure you want to go to CTC? Have a look at the flight training schools that are Air NZ approved. They have a higher quality and hence chosen by AirNZ. There are 5 or 6 approved organisations. I think they are Massey, Hastings, southern wings, Christchurch and Nelson.

what is the integrated course?

systematically: what is your source regarding CTC scaling back their UK programme? Not saying your wrong at all, purely interested to hear more!

help...
 

During the interview with ctc are they going to ask predictable technical questions such as "how do planes fly?" or more complex tech questions?

..my selection is soon so I'm panicking!! :{

futurecadet05, when I went for my selection, they asked quite a few technical questions a bit more complex than 'how do planes fly?'....it was a while ago but I remember talking about things like thrust reduction on takeoff. They also asked some non-techy questions for example about CRM, so be prepared for them.
I think what they ask is dependent on how you answered the questionnaire they emailed you.
To be honest, you shouldn't panic about the interview. It's more about getting to know you and your previous experiences (that relate to the qualities they are looking for in potential pilots) and to make sure that you can stay calm under pressure.
The number one rule I always stick by is: Don't freeze!....always always always say something, it seems obvious but I'm surprised by how many people who say nothing or just say 'I don't know'....I remember in my interview asking for a minute of thinking time before I answered a particularly tricky question, she didn't mind at all!

Just stay calm and be yourself and you will be ok
I hope that helps

Futurecadet, my interview with CTC was very relaxed, it was far more focused on why you want to be a pilot, why CTC, and then a few questions asking for examples of a time when you showed some core competencies. These include the obvious ones, e.g. leadership,teamwork.

The interview was extremely relaxed, more like a chat really. I didn't get asked a single technical question all day.

thanks guys :)

CTC Deviation Crosshairs
 

Hi guys, does anyone know whether they use inverted or normal test, or do they change it from time to time?

Thanks

Mine was inverted, but I believe it can be changed in a click of the button so be prepared for both.

Hi there, can someone maybe sum up the best reactions here in this topic? Not the whole text but the reaction numbers are enough..

Thanks in advance!

There are 3943 posts (now.) Why can you not read them yourself and sum up the reaction? Every contributor has made their own individual comment, observation, question or summary.

What is it you feel you need to know?

Yeah I thought already that someone will put a reaction like you Bealzebub. I want to know a lot of information about the insides of the selections and of course, of the training. I can sum them up by myself yes, but maybe there is someone already here who has summed up the most useful posts..?

It is a very big thread, with I think a lot of useful posts. It will take a lot of time, but it will pay-off, I'm sure!

If someone has summed the most useful posts, can he/she please write them down? Otherwise I'll do it!

The interview process is just looking for average competencies in your abilities, so relax. It’s easy to get in to CTC now. The main thing they are looking for is your personality and of course the money to pay for the very overpriced training.

Think about whether you really want to go to CTC as they have changed a lot! The quality is now focused on the cheap and nasty training for the low cost Asian markets. The skills set of CTC has plummeted and they have mostly very low time fresh instructors. Air New Zealand recently chose five other training organisations over CTC. They are not interested in the JAA integrated course as this requires higher qualified (costly) instructors. The training is the bare minimums. And more... see older posts in this thread.

pipersam. My sources come from being there. You can also check out the pending rule changes that will affect the JAA instructor ratings on the caa web site. Basically to hold a JAA IR you will need a JAA CPL and this will mean all the NZ instructors doing a JAA CPL in the UK (VERY expensive). Whereas in the past they have beed allowed to use their NZ (ICAO) CPL.

Apologies for posting here but the social thread doesn't seem to be used anymore.

Anyone got their phase 2/3 on the 22nd and staying at Dale Farm House?

Math phase 2
 

Hello,

Have any of you recently done phase 2 and remembers a little bit of maths question, there is a particular type that I want to go through again. If anyone remembers a question about sg volume and mass, could you tell me what exactly were they asking about and which values were provided please?

I would be very grateful.

Many thanks in advance

I did the test recently and there were no questions about volumes or masses. Expect fuel calculations, altitude calculations, square roots and basic arithmetic. You have plenty of time. I finished in 7 min, reviewed the slightly harder ones, and still got time left. I shouldn't worry if you have at least one brain cell with a feeling for maths.

I also recently did the test and I had 3 questions about determining the specific gravity of a volume. :}

Hi there, again apologies if this is not in the right place but i have my Phase 2 coming up on the 14th of July. Anyone who is also going on this date feel free to PM me!

ctc stage 2
 

Hi Jimmy

Just seen your post regarding stage 2 on thursday this week...i have mine later in the month, although thought i would get in contact!

Have you found any relevant questions or has anyone shed any light on example questions!?

Im willing to send over a couple of questions I believe should be relevant for the maths test when i get home from work tonight.

Would be great to hear from you after the stage 2 on thursday.

Best of luck

My advice (and it worked for me very recently)

http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...uirements.html


check out aviac.com I also bought the Oxford Maths software.
Preperation does work!

Anyone got their phase 2 on Wednesday 20th July?

@natashacabin80

try www.ctcwings.com/india/pdfs/PILAPT-Introduction V2.pdf

very basic but a good start

Entrance Tests
 

Hi all,
I have my CTC Cadet phase 2 and 3 test/interview coming up on the 17th August.
I have read many pages of this thread and recently there doesn't seem to be an awful lot of information about the maths test that you have to sit.
I'm wondering what type of questions they ask and is it still 15 questions in 15 minutes?
Thanks alot.

CTC wings (UK flight school)
 

Hi,

I looked up in all PPRuNe forum but I couldn't find reliable information about this flight school.

Is there anybody who got into the Cadet programme and got employed by any of the partner airlines? Could you give me your opinion about the school and everything that you might consider important to know?

Thanks

It is interesting to watch how CTC has changed over the years. The comments from cadets/instructors 4-5 years ago were mostly good, then 2-4 years they became more damming due to the increase in costs. Now the most recent change has been the severe drop in Quality.
My advice to Tweety55 is to find recent information on CTC. Even ring up the NZ training school and ask to talk to some cadets/instructors.
You will be making a BIG investment, make sure you know what you are paying for. There are now a LOT of hidden costs that were previously included in the price.

Thanks djfingerscrossed for the informations.

So now you are a pilot even though you had some difficulties during the time you were in the holding pool,right?
Do you think the linceces were issued to you by CTC (or uk in general) were valuated better than all others issued in other countries? Because my point is: you can obtain the same licences in Florida for 1/3 of CTC's cost; but I have heard that is more importart who has issued them instead of the actual papers.

Regarding the finance I have to ask a loan so if I will choose to start this course and I fail I am :mad:. Plan B is university but the don't pay you to study...

Not so systematically
 

Systematically - re your last thread; Air NZ has a number of sims it wants to make more use of therefore any training organization with sims was competition and never a candidate as one of their flight trainers. Ask them if training through one of their selected trainers gives any form of head start.

New ctc application
 

Hello all
I've recently applied to join the ctc cadet programme a couple of things I'd like advice on
1 when your down in Southampton how long is a typical day I know the whole course takes about a year, would I have to give my job up I live a fair distance from Southampton,would you be needed to move?
2 and if so how do you support yourself ie accomadation and living costs as it seems ctc don't account for that!! 60grand training programme isn't cheap in anycase
Please pass on your advice please

On the wings cadet course you will find that it is a full time approved training course.

In Southampton you will spend about 5 months of Mon-Fri 9am to 5 pm classroom (including CBT) training. There will also be a significant level of self study, some of which will be on premises and some of which will be home study.

You will then spend around 7 months in New Zealand doing your flight training.

Following this is 2 months of full time UK instrument rating training and examination, at Bournemouth.

Then there follows the intermediate phase of airline based (MCC) training known as the Airline qualification course. This takes around 3 weeks.

Then follows the advanced training leading towards (and in conjunction with) airline placement. This only happens once placements are established. It may involve a long wait for such a placement depending on the opportunities available at any given point in time. These placements are not uniform in nature or in the terms of appointment. Some may involve significant levels of additional expense for type rating training, and some may involve no additional expense.

It would be realistically impossible to do such a course whilst holding down any other major form of employment. The course is a full time vocation for at least 18 months.

Your accomodation is provided within the course costs (or training bond as it would be referred to.) This is usually in shared rental property in Southampton and Bournemouth during the respective training phases. In New Zealand, it is in purpose built, single room, halls of residence style accomodation a few miles from the training facility at Hamilton airport.

Food/transport and other ancilliary costs (including insurances, security bonds, and other living expenses) are down to you. Depending on your own circumstances, that figure probably benchmarks around £10,000.

The training costs are not "£60,000" They are around a base figure of £80,000. The Training bond is a basic £69,000 but on top of this (and to some extent dependant upon your previous flying experience,) there is an additional foundation course to pay for, which (depending on the exchange rate) is around another £10,500. The $NZ is currently very strong against sterling, the Euro, and the US Dollar. It has appreciated about 20% in the last year alone, and that is from a very strong base even then.
You should therefore plan on a minimum budget of around £90,000 - £95,000. You might also want to earmark an additional £7,000-£10,000 for possible extra type rating costs at completion of the intermediate (ACQ) phase.

You would be well advised to start by reading the CTC website, where much of this information can be found. In any event, I hope this is helpful.

Just to clarify, my current groundschool schedule follows a Mon - Thursday timetable with Friday's set aside for self study at the either at the provided accomodation or at the Nursling traning facility. The average day is 9am-3pm (occassionally 4pm) with plenty of breaks throughout the day for a breather ;).

My property is within 10 minutes drive of the training centre - smack bang in the middle of the New Forest which is beautiful and a great escape after a heavy day studying General Navigation. I believe that you are required to stay in the provided accomodation during the week, but at the weekends you are free to do your own thing, travel home etc. This is due to CAA policies of an "integrated" course.

Beazlebub is spot on regarding having a job during the integrated training, and in fact it's in our contract that we are not to have any form of "employment" whilst undergoing our training. (There would be absolutely no point anyway as you will not have any time during groundschool.)

Regards

im hoping to join with my ppl as that should hopefully be passed within 2months weather permitting which should save at least 10k,its a big commitment and i dont even know if ill get selected especially as i only have 2 gcses maths and physics but who knows
so i take it most people are securing the funding via spanish bank mbva

That is not how it works. The foundation course is not simply a PPL. In fact you dont actually get a PPL. It incorporates more than that. As such, previous experience might get you some credit towards the foundation course but it will not substitute for it. You will still be required to pay for the full course, with any possible credit being given at the end of that phase of the training.

The bank is BBVA, and it specialises in secured funding for flight training as one of its smaller divisions. It may offer funding with tailored packages allowing up front payment holidays, and partially deferred repayment periods. However the borowers or their guarantors need to be in excellent financial standing with security (property) that has a value of at least 30% more than the total sum borrowed plus any existing mortgages or charges.

Not everybody utilizes or qualifies for this type of funding.

Well there goes that idea I won't qualify for the funding and since I do not have 80grand sitting in my bank the dream an ATPL will probably never happen they say there is a shortage of pilots how do the airlines expect any newcomers to get into the industry without sponsorships any one have any ideas I'm seriously thinking of just passing my PPL getting an instrument rating and leaving it at that just trying to be realistic

I qualified for the BBVA loan by using my grandparents house for security and the fact that my parents could afford the ~£800pm initial reduced payments. Our joint assets including cars and cash is <£20,000.

If you have a house available and parents with a reasonable income then don't give up.