Cheers for that info bjkeates :ok:
Mindie

(1) varies, i got mine the next day but others have waited weeks. I think there's just a day every month or so when they have a look at them all. So it could vary dramatically depending on when you handed your's in relative to that day.

(2) Phase 2 you'll get an e-mail within hours. The other phases supposedly the next day, so relatively quickly. They said they'd tell you as soon as they knew themselves.

Good luck.

I totally agree that the social trivia aspect of the previous ctc wings thread was getting out of hand, but surely it is acceptable to make the initial social contact on the forum? Thereafter social contacts can be carried on privately out with the public discussion.

I faxed my Wings Cadet application a couple of days ago (I’m desperate to hear back from them) and, assuming I get accepted, I would like to try to make contact with others going to their stage 2 with me. It would not be possible to contact people by PM or email though, without first identifying them through the forum.

All social exchanges can be by PM or e-mail. Posting such trivia here interrupts the flow of useful information on the thread, and leads inevitably and invariably way off-topic, totally devaluing the thread as a source of useful information for those trying to research CTC's Wings scheme. The policy will not change.

Scroggs

Life as a Wings Cadet
 

Bad surprise
 

Hello, i sent my application for the Cadet CTC programme, but i received a bad new. :uhoh:
Indeed, i recently obtained my theoretical ATPL, therefore they answered me that i'm ineligible to apply for the Cadets, but that i could apply for the ATP programme when it will be re-opened.

I don't understand, i thought i could apply for the Cadets even if i hold an theoretical ATPL.
May be, they thought i have a frozen ATPL, and it's a mistake from their...??? :confused:

Is someone able to help me ? :sad:
Thanks

A-levels
 

Hi ,
I'm currently considering which A-levels to take. I will be taking Phyics Maths, but stuck on a third. I am unsure which of the folowing to take: Geography, Law, French or Business. All of which interest me. I want to apply to CTC but obviously want to keep my options open.
Any advice?

Well I found geography to be fairly interesting and partially applicable to what I learnt when studying navigation for my SA Com. Hope that helps...

good luck there:ok:

CTC programme, can anyone explain?
 

I have heard a few things about a programme called the CTC programme from various people, but I don't know too much about it. I read in Airliner World (UK mag) about a female pilot who flies for easyJet who went through the CTC programme to ger employed as a first officer. Anyway, can someone tell me what it's about, in terms of the training and how it is connected with the airlines, eg, do they pay a percentage of the training?
I am 19 with a PPL-A and worked in aviation (just a flying school) until I got to University (doing European Business), and was hoping to work in the admin side of aviation in a big firm when I graduate in 4 years time. However, I have been flying a lot of Jets on FS2004 recently (I know it's not the same thing...), and have become a lot more interested in the actual flying side of an airline. I'm in the first year of uni', but if I was able to get myself onto a sponsorship scheme, I would probably drop Uni' and try to go for a career as a commercial pilot, but I don't want to end up like hundreds of other pilots with the ATPL, CPL and a type rating and no job... Your advice please?
Also, are there any other companies at the moment which are offering full sponsorship for young persons such as myself?

Use the search function. There is huge amounts of information on the scheme here my friend.
Also www.ctcaviation.com.

Does anyone know any good ways of practising hand eye co-ordination, preferably something similar to the cross hairs? Any websites or games etc...

I'd suggest playing a game that uses a joystick. It took me a few rounds to get used to it in the test.

How was stage 3 then FlyHiGuy28? Any news?

Tidyboy

Did you hear anything yet? I'm gonna fax it to them tomorrow.

Cheers.


And, another question,

How should one wear for the stage 2, 3, etc etc... does it have to be a suit?

Thanks!

A day in the life of.....
 

AIrcockroaches,

Stage 2 is smart dress but not always a suit. I didn't wear a suit (because I didn't own one at the time) and passed. The idea is smart, clean and presentable. To be exact I wore dress trousers and shoes a clean pressed polo shirt and a thin plain jumper.

Stage 3 is a huge emphasis on presentation. A suit is a must, but dont go and sell your granny for the newest cut of silk. Again, it has to be clean, pressed and ready for action. Likewise for yourself, clean and ready is more important than a £1500. I got mine from next on the discount rail and paid about £100 for the lot, tie inc. £23 for the dry cleaners to get it ready for me and that was it. Cant stress it enough though, clean and ready beats the guy who is ill prepared wearing a sharp suit. This company are a little deeper than the clothes although an effort must be shown.

Thats not the original reason for posting though. I just thought I'd answer that one quickly. I thought I'd give some feedback for you guys who are coming out here soon or are in the latter stages of selection. For those that dont know me my name is Robert Woodmore and I am on the CTC Wings course and make up part of the CP42 group. I came out here a little later than everyone else in my group because I am on the short course as opposed to the long course. Anywho, I arrived yesturday morning (local time).

AS mentioned I had to travel alone out here which isn't the norm for CTC. I think the average through flow for cadets coming out is 10-12 per month but this isn't fixed. I'm sure your aware that some months alot of people pass and some months no one passes. I had to travel from leeds to Heathrow and was under the impression that my luggage allowance was 30kg with my flightbag as the main carry on and a laptop as a second piece of carry on. This isn't the case now however. So after a 5 hour car journey I am informed that the laptop has to go into the flight bag which means all the manuals and chunky bits have to go into the hold. After messing about my carry on weighed in at 11.7kg and my main bags weighed in at a massive 43kg. What was I thinking???????!! This total will get you a nice bill of £430 sterling and this wasn't an option. Back off up to the car park for a little trimming of the cases. Squeezed everything in and then off to check-in again where the guys were moe than happy to rush me through and see me off. A quick pint with my brothers, mum and fiancee and off to the gate. Very emotional experience at the gate where everyone says goodbye's and I am in pieces at leaving my fiancee back in the UK but it is a day of very mixed emotions. Security was no problem providing you jump through all the hoops they put in front of you and keep cool. Another pint in the airside bar as the flight is delayed till 11pm.

I flew with Singapore Airlines on the 747-400 and due to the guy at checking helping me there was 2 people over 4 seats so space wasn't a problem. Leg room was surprisingly vast and the inflight service was possibly the best I've experienced....ever. The crew genuinely want to help and seemed very friendly. The entertainment was awesome with 80 on-demand movies and a bunch of documentaries and music channels. Meals and drinks are all thrown in so no need to get your wallet out just yet. A light snack, another beer and then settled into the flight. Didn't get too much sleep as Mario Brothers made up one of the seat back games and meant I ended up with a sore thumb from all the jumping and fighting off mushroom men! Roughly 13 hours later I was at singapore. Singapore is a mental airport. It's more like a city with gyms, supermarket, hotels, pools and all i naddition to anything you'd witness in a UK airport. I quickly got off and took myself to the airports transit hotel where for $8.40 (£3.50) you can get a shower with all the towels and shampoos, hairgels, lotions ect provided. Before doing this though I stopped off to buy a clean shirt for the next leg as I forgot to pack a spare. Whatever you do, you dont want to be the guy that smells on the next 9.5hr leg!! All cleaned up, shaved and fresh and off to the checkin for Aukland. All relatively painless and the service again was good. I did have a kid behind me who didn't feel the need to stop screaming until the plane landed in Aukland. This was a real test of my patience and those around me with one or two outbursts from some of the passengers. I was on my own but ended up sitting next to a guy who holds his NZ CPL so that was the 9hrs done. Spoke about all sorts of nonesense and had a beer with him which helped the flight go by. A pretty stiff crosswind into Aukland which lead to a positive (read spinebreakingly firm) touchdown and then the games started with NZ immigration. I was stopped no less than three time by these sadists and also referred to the immigration board which meant I had to sit around for 20 mins whilst they sorted out my papers and quadruple checked I was here for the right reasons. Time consuming and not what I needed after all the traveling, but still refreshing to know that I'm here now and only a short drive to my accomodation. I was picked up in a minibus, and given a quick tour whilst bringing me to Clearways at hamilton airport. The journey is about 1hr 45min and as soon as I arrived I was greeted by lynne who showed me around the new complex. It is awesome. I have my own hotel type room with ensuite, a little kitchen area with microwave, cooker, kettle, fridge. I've got a t.v and internet connection, desk space and plenty of storage. Oh yeah and damn comfy bed too. There is also a £35M alarm clock in the form a Freedom Air Airbus that departs at 6.20am!! I was shown the communal areas and the saw the huge tv that receives sattelite which is cool. A gym and transport are also provided so I met up with some friends that I had made through selection and from Uni and we took a minibus into town to grab some food and take a look around the airport. I have only been here 5 minutes and I have already seen most of the complex and the training facilities. I took a seat in the katana that I will start to fly and met some of the ops staff. I have my induction on Monday but until then I've got to get settled and sort out some bits. My friend has a CPL qualifier today so we may end up popping out tonight for a beer to celebrate.

All in all I'm the happiest person alive right now. It's a huge emotional rollercoaster but one that I'm very pleased to be on.

After failing my 3rd stage of selection to getting out here has been awesome and I guess now the hard work starts. I hope those of you reading can say the same thing. I look forward to seeing you soon. I hope this inspires you!

The Reverand :ok:

Good post Reverand.

I am flying out in a little over a month and really can't wait to get out there. All my bits and pieces over here are sorted now and I am just desperate to get on with it. See you out there.

I second that, Good post Rob! I know its not been easy leaving everyone behind (oh the joys of being young, free and single eh!). Don't worry though because me and Tiger Moth'll be out there soon enough to soak up some of that winter sunshine, until then keep us posted, I know theres plenty of people on here that want to hear part 2.

Happy Days,

Mike

What an essay Rev,

Next time save yourself the $£ at Singapore and just douse in EDT samples.

Though agree with you on immigration at AKL, last time, I and about 700 other unlucky souls had four customs officials to see us all. I was asked if I had juggling balls (apparently they can contain hemp or other biosecurity contraband) so not only are we expected to continue the cattle-class existence after leaving the plane but entertain each other too.

c

Nice post Rev!

Flying out in a week and its good to read up on what is to be expected. Last month has certainly flown (pun intended) by with all the things that need sorting, but its good to get going now!

I'm going through Dubai, flying with Emirates. Never flow with 'm before, lets hope the experience is as good as yours (-screaming child).

Does anyone of you know how many chaps get selected for the programme every month... or say the Ratio of applicants : selected?

Thanks.

I've done stage 3 last week and during the briefing they told us that they currently select about 12 cadets per month. If you read around the news on the CTC website you'll notice that this number is gonna grow soon because of the needs of the market.
I cannot tell the final percentage of successful applicants. Somebody says 3%, somebodys says 4%... I'll tell you what I've been told at stage 2:

"If you are here, consider yourself lucky cause 2/3 of the applicant are rejected at the first stage". Another 2/3 of the remaining applicants are rejected at stage 2. Pass rate for stage 3 is about 45% and pass rate for stage 4 is about 85%. I hope this make things clear.

Got stage 4 soon... I just can't wait :p

Are there any current/past CTC students reading this who wouldnt mind me pming them with a few questions? Ive got my stage 4 on thursday and before I sign my life away (assuming I pass) I'd quite like to check a few things about the transition from passing stage 4 to the end of the basic training!

Despite all the reading of the CTC website ive done I still find ive got a large number of blanks as to the step in between

-Thanks to MonarchA330 for ansewring my questions! No one else needs to pm me :)

Reverend
 

a couple of things.
1) Thanks for the advice last month, I'm now ready to fly out on 10th Jan, so I'll c u there.

2) nice post, gave me a good indication of what to expect.

3) this is an open question. Does the accomodation in NZ have Sky sports?????

Back in the good old days of Peachgrove there was sky, including sky sports on some huge widescreen tvs... from what i understand the big tvs have gone across to clearways... and i assume theyve set up sky too. Enjoy NZ....:ok:

We do have Sky Sports (it's a different company to the UK version but still called Sky, and I think probably owned by the same people) so don't worry, you'll get your weekly helping of Premiership football; in fact, it's normal for them to show about 5 live games every weekend if that's what you're interested in. The only problem is because of the time difference, you have to either stay up all night or get up very, very early to watch it!

Bobby,

Theres not much else to know really about basic training. You come to NZ and do your basic training the same as you would anywhere else. When your done you go back to the UK. Feel free to PM if you want.

Wonderful news!
 

Thats magic! Cheers for the responses. C u there

premiership football?! coming all this way and who cares? get a proper hobby

nothing wrong with football! rugby - now thats a different matter!

Trouble at BOH today

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/6197744.stm


I wonder if this effected any CTCers?

I've been wondering if I should post this or not but anyway, I decided I'll post it! Consider this...

At 17, you get your PPL.

When 18 yrs old, you enter your first year university studying course X, only to realise that, working a bit harder, will get you into course Y which is more demanding, gets you far better salary at the end, and also you'll become someone in a profession which is not related to aviation.

So you leave University a few weeks after you enter course X, and re-take your A levels next year (possibly achieving better grades than the ones you already have), keeping in mind the aim to join the better, more demanding (etc etc) course you plan to join.

The reasons for doing this is due to realisation that you have the potential to join Course Y and will surely find it more interesting than course X, and finally that you will earn a better salary (to fund the pilot course should CTC scheme does not work out for you, or to repay any loans of pilot training, in addition to any other family loans).

During this time, you apply to CTC, and get selected for the interview part.

How do you think this would go down to the interviewers at CTC? Would they think that you want profession Y rather than pilot? I know it ultimately depends on how you present the facts, but is there something I'm missing?

Any opinions GREATLY appreciated.:ok: (either PM or here)

aircockroaches - I'd be very interested to see the reply to this, as I'm in a fairly similar situation.

I'm currently only in my first year of university but hope to become a commercial pilot. I'm about to complete the written section of the application form but was wondering if being a current student will hinder the application at all?

Obviously CTC is a great scheme and I will do my best to get in – but I hope being a current student won’t put them off me? Having said that, somebody from CTC is to give a ‘talk’ to my peers and myself soon, it may be a good idea to chat with him/her!

cockroaches/foreman

you're perfectly entitled to backup career(s) A1, A2, A3 (...!) to fund the dream of plan B - plain common sense and an insurance against career suicide. it's evidence that you're pro-active about your career choices.

as long as you can back up why you jumped x for y. and lets face it, quitting the course for a bigger, better one after only a few weeks (rather than a few years as does happen) is no biggie if you've thought about it properly. CTC themselves were advocating to some guy on the old thread that he try a few months of uni then re-apply and drop out to fly.

you can prove to them you're sufficiently motivated for pilot above Y by knowing the course, industry, partners and company inside out for the interview. remember, you have a PPL and this is a good sign of your commitment to flying.

as for being a student right now, do ask them but i doubt it matters, see the perma-debate on 'uni vs flying training'

c

Thanks for the offer Dragon but I think most of my questions have been answered for now! I passed Stage 4 on Thursday so I'm now waiting for the all important next step emails :D :D :D Hopefully starting some time around February. Really cant wait!

Aircockroaches - I personally think that if you explain your reasoning behind your choice clearly they will be impressed by your drive to work towards your ambitions. The only thing they may worry is that you cant commit to something but if you say how its a one off and possibly have examples of good committment in other things im sure theyll not be worried at all.

Many thanks for your replies!

It's a question of bringing the positive sides of it rather than just telling them the facts, i.e. you tell them the facts, in a positive way!

Life in NZ
 

Is there any current cadet who's reading the thread and wouldnt mind me messaging him as I have stage 4 comin soon and I would like to understand a bit more about the daily routine and life in NZ?
Thanks for your time and best of luck with your training.
Hook

Post Selection
 

I passed through selection for CTC Wings, and i just wondered if anyone can suggest a good company to get all the insurance i need? Protection for the bond if i lose a limb or go blind or something?

Thanks

Insurance
 

After I'd passed phase IV, one of the many emails that CTC sent me was the contact details of an insurance broker who sort out the loss of medical category etc. insurance. If you haven't received the email with the details, maybe contact CTC and ask?

Concordski
 

Aliright son, wind your beak in!

What would you suggest as a better hobby?

Do Sky sports show live trainspotting?

his3dmw since you're about to venture out it's a light starter of maori for you, with a main of crosswind landings, eau de PR2/3 and tectonic processes to finish. consider concorde's beak shut. enjoy.

And how I look forward to sampling those delicacies.
Nevertheless I shall be up at 3am every saturday watching the football. If that in anyway means that I am uncultured or weak minded, then so be it.

For now though, enough of the niceties, this is neither the time or the place. Shall we just say each to his own?

Seriously, I got a fair bit of use from here during selection so If I can be of use just give us a buzz.