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wheresryan2 11th Nov 2007 18:12

SuperpilotGuys there is lots of truth to the rumour that RYR are short of candidates. I know of a guy who applied 2.5 months ago. He starts Line Training next week - hows that for a turn around? I also know someone who applied 2 week ago, his interview is booked already! Have a think about this for a moment.


Good because I cant wait! lol

PAPI-74 11th Nov 2007 19:19

Finally getting short of mugs are they?

bluesideupsometimes 11th Nov 2007 19:53

anyone got an assessment on the 11 dec 2007 at EMA? PM me

inner 12th Nov 2007 07:38

cae typerating questions
 
What's happens if you fail during the typerating? Some extra sessions? Money lost?

Is the base training included in the amount you have to pay to cae or do you have to sign a bond with ryanair for this? And if so, how much is this bond?

thx

YYZ 12th Nov 2007 15:58

No bond as such, its within your training contract that you complete the line training also, so you cannot just leave as there is then the three months notice requirement.

Also, if you start to perform badly on the TR YOU have to pay for extra sessions, if you do not improve you are gone, No TR and NO refund, if you fail the first base check, FR pays for some extra sim and covers another attempt in the aircraft, if you fail this you are gone, again, no refund and no TR.

Ive not known anyone fail the line training so I cannot comment, but im sure it happens, I found the line training the hardest!

YYZ

wheresryan2 12th Nov 2007 16:17

No bond as such, its within your training contract that you complete the line training also, so you cannot just leave as there is then the three months notice requirement.

Also, if you start to perform badly on the TR YOU have to pay for extra sessions, if you do not improve you are gone, No TR and NO refund, if you fail the first base check, FR pays for some extra sim and covers another attempt in the aircraft, if you fail this you are gone, again, no refund and no TR.

Ive not known anyone fail the line training so I cannot comment, but im sure it happens, I found the line training the hardest!

YYZ Today 08:38


Could you please tell me how much you can expect to be payed during line training as I am trying to figure out the paying back of more borrowing. And also was there any pshycosomatic test for the interview many thanks! wheresryan2

inner 12th Nov 2007 16:31

you'll get around 620pounds after tax during the line training contract.

So, you mean, if you fail during the base check you don't have to pay FR for the amount 'lost'??

JetSetJ 12th Nov 2007 19:44

I believe the current cadet salary is approximately £750 after tax. With reference to failing a base check, i think you have to pay a certain amount but am not sure how much this currently is?

Just on the subject of the assessment interview and simcheck, i notice a number of posts that seem to suggest Ryanair are short of candidates? Do a lot of guys/gals fail the interview sim assessment and fail to achieve the high standard required by Ryanair to gain employment with the company?

JJ:ok:

StallStrip 12th Nov 2007 20:06

RyanAir CAE TR and Line Training
 
JetSetJ wooo! Just put an App into CAE it will be a struggle to pay back the TR and Training bills on that! Will have to borrow TR money plus 5000 to live!

JetSetJ 12th Nov 2007 20:45

Stall strip, welcome to pprune!!

Did you feel it necessary to waste your first post on such an unhelpful response!?!?!?!

JJ:ok:

MrHorgy 12th Nov 2007 22:22

JetSetJ,

Regarding Ryanair's need to applicants, I would suggest that they are doing ok - I can't comment on people getting rejected but i'd take with a pinch of salt anything you get on here regarding figures. With RYR your either a lover or a hater. There was a fair crop of people on the open day, and casual ear to the ground indicates to me that a fair few bods from OATS and Cabair are going there as well.

The current terms in the contract regarding base checks are thus:


If for whatever reason you fail to fulfil the terms and obligations of this Training Contract (for clarity this means you must be available for training for the full six months) you will liable to repay the Base Training costs of Euro5,072 (Euro845 per circuit) as well as any line training costs incurred as specified in Clause 2 above.
Basically if you screw up they can cut you (which frankly, any airline would be able to do) - it doesn't mention any retraining costs. Again, ear to the ground tells me that RYR will stump up a bit for base check training but it's not a blank chequebook.

Horgy

JetSetJ 13th Nov 2007 08:28

Thanks for your post MrHorgy,

I am one of those people who is a RYR lover!! I really do wanna fly for them, the difficult task is getting through an interview/sim check.

You mention Cabair and OAT in your post, i presume RYR as do most airlines, prefer the OAT Integrated guys/gals?

JJ

inner 13th Nov 2007 08:47

The interview and sim check is not that hard.

Ryr doesn't care about integrated or modular. All they care about is if you have a licence.

good luck

MrHorgy 13th Nov 2007 10:56

inner is correct.

Ryanair (very sensibly in my opinion) are worried about if you have a licence or not, and not how far over the table you bent over to get it. The only reason I mentioned Cabair and OATS was because I was a little surprised they were taking positions at RYR, I thought they were all established on the BA/Flybe gravytrain.

Horgy

michvan 14th Nov 2007 11:05

...finally I got a date for the interview...
On the email they ask you to bring
two written references, one personal reference, one employee/academic reference and a final report or reference from your Flight Training Organisation. It is my first job inteview so... what do they mean by reference? Do I need to ask the flight school to write something about me or just give them the address and contact number? What about the personal one?
Any advice would be very helpful
Thank you


CamelhAir 14th Nov 2007 12:43


fail to achieve the high standard required by Ryanair to gain employment with the company?
Amazing how talk to high ryr standards is confined to those who have yet to sit in the RHS, let alone the LHS. Those actually in the LHS, who may, believe it or not, be more qualified to comment, would agree that standards are falling. I am sure some of those in the RHS also say the same about some of our latest captains.


I am one of those people who is a RYR lover!! I really do wanna fly for them,
Despite all that is known about ryr, we still have muppets spouting such dross. Are you so naive or do you really want to be a €40k skipper? Forget about moving on too, the market is tightening and if you are coming here now, one has to wonder why you are here and not elsewhere.


Ryanair (very sensibly in my opinion) are worried about if you have a licence or not, and not how far over the table you bent over to get it. T
First part correct, second is not. Ryr love people who have bent over , it demonstrates that you are that type and will probably do it again. This identifies you as unlikely to develop a spine, thus becoming the pliant sheep ryr want who will not complain as there pay drops by a large % every year.

YOU WILL NOT EARN THE MONEY RYR PROMISE, YOU WILL ALWAYS BE EARNING LESS AT EACH STAGE OF YOUR RYR CAREER THAN THE EQUIVALENT IS NOW.
Can't you get this into your thick skulls? If you start now, you will never reach the promised figures and you will be on max €40k as a skipper.
You will not be able to afford your loan repayments, a mortgage or have a life.
And if you do manage to leave you will find the other companies are not much better as they've been forced to dumb down to compete.
ARE YOU THAT STUPID????
This is a JOB, not a f**kin hobby.

inner 14th Nov 2007 12:48

Michvan,


Even if you don't have the reference with you, RYR doesn't care. I asked my fto for a reference and i did not get it on time.

What you can do is ask someone of your work to write something about yourself. (What person you are, how hard you like to work for ryanair etc).

Good luck for the interview and simcheck


inner

inner 14th Nov 2007 12:55

Before i forget to mention:

If you have a contract, read it very carefully!!!! (BRK contract but also CAE contract!!!). Once you've signed the contract there is no way back.

Although i suceeded the assessment i'm still in a deep doubt. I've heard as well that many BRK fielders have more and more standby's, which worries me a lot. I hope for these people it is just temporarily.

chrs

MrHorgy 14th Nov 2007 12:56

Camel,

If you hate RYR so much, why don't you just leave? Everywhere else would seem to be better than Mr O'Leary's empire, i'm sure someone will pay you to fly a seneca if you really want!

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and make their own judgements on whether RYR is for them or not. As i've said in another thread it's down to personal circumstance and preference. Resorting to calling people "dross spouting muppets" does not further your cause, and shows that you have a PERSONAL vendetta against RYR. What's wrong, were you passed over for promotion?

Horgy

MrHorgy 14th Nov 2007 12:58

Inner,

There is bound to be a very slight easing in hours over winter - it's the way the industry works. Assuming you recently passed you won't be on line until April so by that point hopefully it will have picked up.

Horgy


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