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Ryanair Interview
I have an interview with Ryanair in Stockholm in about 8 weeks time. Has anyone here been over there or undertaken the process elsewhere with Ryanair. Let me know what the interview was like and sim detail. Would be great help to know since I am preparing like it is for emirates but would like to know whether any tricky tings are asked!
To all still waiting for interviews.......it is getting better out there and keep the faith!
To all still waiting for interviews.......it is getting better out there and keep the faith!
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Hi Irish Roll,
I'm affraid I can't answer any of your questions but rather, I'm interested in asking you why your interview is in Sweden are you in Ireland? Also, how long did you wait before they contacted you?
Good Luck!
I'm affraid I can't answer any of your questions but rather, I'm interested in asking you why your interview is in Sweden are you in Ireland? Also, how long did you wait before they contacted you?
Good Luck!
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Something like this probably:
Interviewer: " Have you got the fecking money matey?"
Pilot: "Pardon me?"
I: "Where's the f'ing money, we want your f'ing money..."
P: "Well I say old boy, I'm not sure I like the tone of ......" (sounds os the Ryan guy interupting)
I: "Listen pal, we're only after a quick buck. Give me 18 grand for a -200 or 20 grand for an -800. Be quick. I have another mug waiting in the corridor....."
P: " OK, so where will I be based?"
I: "Where we say"
P: "Hmmm, what about my wife,kids and family?"
I: "**** em. You will be too knackered for luxuries"
P: "What about salary?"
I: "none for six months."
P: "Uh?"
I: "And then it is £8000 and half sector pay till we change the rules"
P: "Oh"
And it goes on and on....... get a grip. Don't fall for it.
Interviewer: " Have you got the fecking money matey?"
Pilot: "Pardon me?"
I: "Where's the f'ing money, we want your f'ing money..."
P: "Well I say old boy, I'm not sure I like the tone of ......" (sounds os the Ryan guy interupting)
I: "Listen pal, we're only after a quick buck. Give me 18 grand for a -200 or 20 grand for an -800. Be quick. I have another mug waiting in the corridor....."
P: " OK, so where will I be based?"
I: "Where we say"
P: "Hmmm, what about my wife,kids and family?"
I: "**** em. You will be too knackered for luxuries"
P: "What about salary?"
I: "none for six months."
P: "Uh?"
I: "And then it is £8000 and half sector pay till we change the rules"
P: "Oh"
And it goes on and on....... get a grip. Don't fall for it.
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Would also be very interested in a sensible answer to the original Q????
I am seriously considering this route along with a colleague but would like to hear more about what it entails..... Currently we are both instructing.....
Somebody out there must know something!
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I am seriously considering this route along with a colleague but would like to hear more about what it entails..... Currently we are both instructing.....
Somebody out there must know something!
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Not entirely sure. Ryanair are using three FTOs for their type ratings, which are located in south London, Germany, Sweden and Holland.
I get the impression that recruitment onto the 200 has finished and as such are now only taking people onto the 800. GECAT in south London is still waiting for approval from the IAA for the 800 course but SAS in Sweden and I am assuming the other 2 FTO already have this approval and as such the interviews and sim checks are being carried out over there.
I have waited a long time for the interview and have like many other recieved countless PFOs (please f**k offs) from other airlines. Hopefully there is light on the horizon and situation will get better.
As far as taking ur money and spitting you out, Ryanair do work pilots hard, pay you (eventually very well) but isn't flying what we want. I will be happy to work 900 hours a year, flying 800s for a well oiled machine like Ryanair. Beats the hell out of "reduced pay" going through CTC or getting job with seasonal airline, where uncertain hours, irregular lifestyle etc......I want a stable life, flying job, nice girls down the back and brand newplane to fly!! Still a wish though!!
I get the impression that recruitment onto the 200 has finished and as such are now only taking people onto the 800. GECAT in south London is still waiting for approval from the IAA for the 800 course but SAS in Sweden and I am assuming the other 2 FTO already have this approval and as such the interviews and sim checks are being carried out over there.
I have waited a long time for the interview and have like many other recieved countless PFOs (please f**k offs) from other airlines. Hopefully there is light on the horizon and situation will get better.
As far as taking ur money and spitting you out, Ryanair do work pilots hard, pay you (eventually very well) but isn't flying what we want. I will be happy to work 900 hours a year, flying 800s for a well oiled machine like Ryanair. Beats the hell out of "reduced pay" going through CTC or getting job with seasonal airline, where uncertain hours, irregular lifestyle etc......I want a stable life, flying job, nice girls down the back and brand newplane to fly!! Still a wish though!!
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I do agree that paying for your own type is horible but if you have seen 6 of your ex-students get jobs flying A320s or 737s you would consider it too. Being passed up time and again just because someone else had the dosh to pay for it is more sole destroying.
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I agree but a interview is an interview. I have sent countless CVs off and received countless F offs. If you don;t grab the bull by the horns etc.
I am in debt already and will be so for many years, but this is something I want to do and if getting a further loan out to achieve that aim is what is required, then life's a bitch!
I know people at Oxford who wouldn't flinch at £20k but I agree it is a lot of money and airlines should be investing in your training but todays economic climate is such the there is an unwillingness to spend and unless you want to be a right tool and sign up with CTC, where your life and soul belong to them, then there are few options left!
Did anyone see the interview with Ryanair the other week! What did you think. I was impressed by his ruthless business approach, though having 6 people manning the customer service call centre for millions of pax is a bit cheap!!
I am in debt already and will be so for many years, but this is something I want to do and if getting a further loan out to achieve that aim is what is required, then life's a bitch!
I know people at Oxford who wouldn't flinch at £20k but I agree it is a lot of money and airlines should be investing in your training but todays economic climate is such the there is an unwillingness to spend and unless you want to be a right tool and sign up with CTC, where your life and soul belong to them, then there are few options left!
Did anyone see the interview with Ryanair the other week! What did you think. I was impressed by his ruthless business approach, though having 6 people manning the customer service call centre for millions of pax is a bit cheap!!
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Luvnoise,
Sh?t stirring? Hardly, just tongue in cheek comments.
Why are wannabees so desperate to go work for no money at RYAN?
Things are improving rapidly, jobs will be coming available soon. Believe me.
As for better than CTC? No it isn't.....you guys just think that because CTC may not take you. CTC is by far the better option. Ask ANY CTC cadet.
Sh?t stirring? Hardly, just tongue in cheek comments.
Why are wannabees so desperate to go work for no money at RYAN?
Things are improving rapidly, jobs will be coming available soon. Believe me.
As for better than CTC? No it isn't.....you guys just think that because CTC may not take you. CTC is by far the better option. Ask ANY CTC cadet.
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Never applied to CTC. I have read the info and fromwhat I can gather and have heard through speaking to experienced people. You do get type rated, you may get a job and if you do you will be on reduced pay scale for x many years. eh? Bonded=yes. I guess it is similar to paying Ryanair for job but at least money is good and promotion prospects excellent. Justa shame industry is in such a state, or trying to sort itself out. Thankg god war is over and SARS seems to be contained...ahhh ahhhh ahhhh chu.
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Irish Roll - There is a lot to be said for good promotion prospects and good pay but balance that against lifestyle and you'll see that if it was that good why do they stich over new low houred peeps ?? Well, cos no experienced mug would put up with these T&C's
There is alot of Ryanair slagging but I have first hand experience of it !
There is alot of Ryanair slagging but I have first hand experience of it !
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Guys, believe the blarney if you like, but beware.
In ten years time when you are either in a decent outfit just about to accept your command......or are in Ryanair and have been a Captain for yonks.....you will look at the guys entering the industry on appalling terms.
Either you will pity them because things have improved so much for you in those years, or you will think "fu?k....I created this" because you were so eager to go pay for ratings and the like.
Accept the additional 20 grand debt in desperation if you must. However do not bleat on here in six months when Ryanair, easyJet, jet2, BMI baby and NOW are all taking on 200 hour Fatpl holders on 40 grand a year.
Ryanair and easyJet are expert at spin. They make it sound like they are helping you!
Well, answer me this.....why, when I had dinner with a large amount of easy pilots last Friday at an aviation dinner did so many of them tell me they were looking to leave?!? The British Airways recruiters were rather busy......
There are lots of guys in Ryan and easy who will leave at the drop of a BA pilots hat...........or Britannia, or Thomas Cook, or Virgin, or Emirates etc etc etc.....
I sympathise with your desperation, but face facts:
Pay for rating
No pay for six months except sector pay
Half sector pay for a while longer after that
Relocate at company's demand with ONE weeks notice
Poor holiday allowances
No medical insurance
Buy your own car park pass
sh?t or no crew food at all
No pension to speak of
fatigue
No prospects except a command and still 900 hours a year after that
Dead by fifty maybe........
What a load of crap. Wait for things to improve and see what happens. You may not like my advice, but you will appreciate it one day.
In ten years time when you are either in a decent outfit just about to accept your command......or are in Ryanair and have been a Captain for yonks.....you will look at the guys entering the industry on appalling terms.
Either you will pity them because things have improved so much for you in those years, or you will think "fu?k....I created this" because you were so eager to go pay for ratings and the like.
Accept the additional 20 grand debt in desperation if you must. However do not bleat on here in six months when Ryanair, easyJet, jet2, BMI baby and NOW are all taking on 200 hour Fatpl holders on 40 grand a year.
Ryanair and easyJet are expert at spin. They make it sound like they are helping you!
Well, answer me this.....why, when I had dinner with a large amount of easy pilots last Friday at an aviation dinner did so many of them tell me they were looking to leave?!? The British Airways recruiters were rather busy......
There are lots of guys in Ryan and easy who will leave at the drop of a BA pilots hat...........or Britannia, or Thomas Cook, or Virgin, or Emirates etc etc etc.....
I sympathise with your desperation, but face facts:
Pay for rating
No pay for six months except sector pay
Half sector pay for a while longer after that
Relocate at company's demand with ONE weeks notice
Poor holiday allowances
No medical insurance
Buy your own car park pass
sh?t or no crew food at all
No pension to speak of
fatigue
No prospects except a command and still 900 hours a year after that
Dead by fifty maybe........
What a load of crap. Wait for things to improve and see what happens. You may not like my advice, but you will appreciate it one day.
Don't Do It!!!
I know the feeling about watching other people go off and get jobs while you're seemingly stuck in a rut not getting anywhere with your applications.
Several of my ex-collegues were thinking about paying for their own type-ratings recently after 2 years of frustration at the jobs market - they decided not to. Now ALL of them have been offered jobs, all in the space of 2 months. None of them are paying for their type-ratings or accepting reduced salaries etc.
Yes it is frustrating, yes it is disheartening and yes, it is tempting. But think about how you will feel having paid out your 20k in 6 months time when new entrants are welcomed in the doors with open arms and an open cheque book.
Several of my ex-collegues were thinking about paying for their own type-ratings recently after 2 years of frustration at the jobs market - they decided not to. Now ALL of them have been offered jobs, all in the space of 2 months. None of them are paying for their type-ratings or accepting reduced salaries etc.
Yes it is frustrating, yes it is disheartening and yes, it is tempting. But think about how you will feel having paid out your 20k in 6 months time when new entrants are welcomed in the doors with open arms and an open cheque book.
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To answer the original question I can only answer for the selection process at CAE in Amsterdam.
The initial part of your selection is like any other, you will be selected based on your profile: ie course followed, background, hours, etc. There are over 800 people on their database so the changes that you are called for an interview are exactly the same as with other airlines.
For low houred pilots the selection is as follows:
- Aptitude assesment They use the same aptitude testing device as used for KLM, LH and AF, the machine is aimed at looking at decision making, flying skills, mental capabilities.
- Simulator assesment They put two candidates in a B200 simulator and look for Multi Crew Experience, Flying Skills and Personality in the cockpit. Assesed by a 737 SFI/TRI or TRE
- Presentation by CAE about the financial side, pittfalls, what to expect and what not to expect
-Presentation by RYR about the company, the job, the pay and what to expect and what not to expect
- One to one interview with RYR HR
This takes 3 days after which you will hear a go or no go. If no go due to flying capabilities you will be debriefed by the head of training.
As far as I know it is the same as used by other major airlines the only difference is that the HR dep of RYR is not a whole commitee who takes weeks to consider.....
Tailscrape: if RYR is not for you: fine but try to be objective rather than making a fool of yourselves....
The initial part of your selection is like any other, you will be selected based on your profile: ie course followed, background, hours, etc. There are over 800 people on their database so the changes that you are called for an interview are exactly the same as with other airlines.
For low houred pilots the selection is as follows:
- Aptitude assesment They use the same aptitude testing device as used for KLM, LH and AF, the machine is aimed at looking at decision making, flying skills, mental capabilities.
- Simulator assesment They put two candidates in a B200 simulator and look for Multi Crew Experience, Flying Skills and Personality in the cockpit. Assesed by a 737 SFI/TRI or TRE
- Presentation by CAE about the financial side, pittfalls, what to expect and what not to expect
-Presentation by RYR about the company, the job, the pay and what to expect and what not to expect
- One to one interview with RYR HR
This takes 3 days after which you will hear a go or no go. If no go due to flying capabilities you will be debriefed by the head of training.
As far as I know it is the same as used by other major airlines the only difference is that the HR dep of RYR is not a whole commitee who takes weeks to consider.....
Tailscrape: if RYR is not for you: fine but try to be objective rather than making a fool of yourselves....
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Aviation Trainer too...
I am not making a fool of myself. Just pointing out that I think the scheme stinks.
You carry on creaming money off the wannabees Aviation Trainer. I bet that feels good.
It sounds like a rip off to me, and is followed up by more expoitation.
Would you like to continue the conversation? Being Patronising may work with the people you rip off because they are desperate.
However it doesn't with me, so back off.
I am not making a fool of myself. Just pointing out that I think the scheme stinks.
You carry on creaming money off the wannabees Aviation Trainer. I bet that feels good.
It sounds like a rip off to me, and is followed up by more expoitation.
Would you like to continue the conversation? Being Patronising may work with the people you rip off because they are desperate.
However it doesn't with me, so back off.
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Wise, balanced words from Tailscrape, a few months more to wait might yield much better opportunities - but of course you should definately go to the interview, all good experience
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Thanks everyone for comment, being either against, for or advice orientated. To be honest the time and location of interview was fabrication but I do have one with Ryanair (obviously not wanting them to know who I am).
I am going in with my eyes wide open but this airline is truely the one I have always wanted to work for. Ok you do have to pay for type rating and I don't agree with this practice but I disagree with people who appear frightened to work. Working you hard. Is that not better than sitting on you lazy ass all day long, flying 2ce a month. I feel for airlines employing moaning disatisfied, spoilt brats who are never content unless the silver spoon is torn from their butts and placed in their mouths.
Out of curiousity, all those who had harsh words to say about Ryanair, do any of you have flying jobs?
I will let you all know how it goes.
I am going in with my eyes wide open but this airline is truely the one I have always wanted to work for. Ok you do have to pay for type rating and I don't agree with this practice but I disagree with people who appear frightened to work. Working you hard. Is that not better than sitting on you lazy ass all day long, flying 2ce a month. I feel for airlines employing moaning disatisfied, spoilt brats who are never content unless the silver spoon is torn from their butts and placed in their mouths.
Out of curiousity, all those who had harsh words to say about Ryanair, do any of you have flying jobs?
I will let you all know how it goes.
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Irish Roll,
Good luck.
I do have a flying job, and am lucky to be involved with a very good company. I guess that is why i am so critical of RYR and the paying mentality....
Oh well, good luck. I hope you are successful if RYR is for you.
Good luck.
I do have a flying job, and am lucky to be involved with a very good company. I guess that is why i am so critical of RYR and the paying mentality....
Oh well, good luck. I hope you are successful if RYR is for you.
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Yes there are good things and bad things about Ryanair...show me an airline where there isnt! I have been with Ryans for 2.5 years now and except for a few odds and sods I am very happy.
I have a stable roster work 5 on 3 off guaranteed. I know when I can book shows go to parties, BBQs, my daughters school plays etc etc and that counts for alot.
Yes there are many places where things could be improved but I worked for another VERY WELL know company for 15 years that was far worse.
Tailscrape tell us all how many jobs you have had since leaving training and how many setbacks due to the ups and downs of the industry! (Im not having a knock mate and we do know each other, but it isnt quite the hell hole you make it out to be!) I have had one and am looking at command in a years time and the money to go with it. The good wages can be used to more than make up for any low pension etc (5% of basic +5% AVC + 5% company provided). The hours are fine, I have averaged just under 800 a year since I have been with them.
Someone told me that your two best jobs will always be your last one and your next....very true!
I think we are all guilty of over inflated expectations brought on by the flying schools. Go back 10 years or so and how many people got jobs straight onto jets? People had to gain experience before getting the jet jobs. People now expect a jet job within weeks of leaving!! You and I are very lucky and low wages for 6 months are more than made up for by the leg up that the company offers you, certainly better than 5K for an FI rating then approx 9K pa for however many years it takes. Also of note is that the guys who pay for their rating are on higher pay scales than the guys who were sponsored so over the period of my bond it works out very similar wage wise.
Sorry I cant answer the original question about interviews...mine were years ago now and its changed. Dont let the Ryanair scare mongering put you off, at the end of the day it is a well paid jet job for someone with very little experience.
I have a stable roster work 5 on 3 off guaranteed. I know when I can book shows go to parties, BBQs, my daughters school plays etc etc and that counts for alot.
Yes there are many places where things could be improved but I worked for another VERY WELL know company for 15 years that was far worse.
Tailscrape tell us all how many jobs you have had since leaving training and how many setbacks due to the ups and downs of the industry! (Im not having a knock mate and we do know each other, but it isnt quite the hell hole you make it out to be!) I have had one and am looking at command in a years time and the money to go with it. The good wages can be used to more than make up for any low pension etc (5% of basic +5% AVC + 5% company provided). The hours are fine, I have averaged just under 800 a year since I have been with them.
Someone told me that your two best jobs will always be your last one and your next....very true!
I think we are all guilty of over inflated expectations brought on by the flying schools. Go back 10 years or so and how many people got jobs straight onto jets? People had to gain experience before getting the jet jobs. People now expect a jet job within weeks of leaving!! You and I are very lucky and low wages for 6 months are more than made up for by the leg up that the company offers you, certainly better than 5K for an FI rating then approx 9K pa for however many years it takes. Also of note is that the guys who pay for their rating are on higher pay scales than the guys who were sponsored so over the period of my bond it works out very similar wage wise.
Sorry I cant answer the original question about interviews...mine were years ago now and its changed. Dont let the Ryanair scare mongering put you off, at the end of the day it is a well paid jet job for someone with very little experience.
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Batty,
I have had TWO jobs (one which i have not actually resigned from, and one i currently work for).
I went straight on the 757. jmc never made me redundant, and indeed am on a career break at my present employer. I return to jmc in Sept 2004 in my original seniority position. And they gave me £5000 to disappear too.
I am still in a decent pension scheme, and have just been in hospital this week having an operation conducted by the best surgeon in his field at the company's health insurance expense.
Things are up and down in this industry as you know, but the fact remains that i joined a decent airline, get treated decently and enjoy some of the benefits that a rank of being an FO or above should have.
Horses for courses, but don't think that jmc or anyone else have treated me badly. They have not, and I don't think they would either.......
I am just sick and tired of seeing people being shafted and having to pay through the nose.... and before anyone asks.... I was lucky. I did not have to pay £6000 to CTC! Right place right time.......
After all, £60000 is enough in anyone's book surely?!?
I have had TWO jobs (one which i have not actually resigned from, and one i currently work for).
I went straight on the 757. jmc never made me redundant, and indeed am on a career break at my present employer. I return to jmc in Sept 2004 in my original seniority position. And they gave me £5000 to disappear too.
I am still in a decent pension scheme, and have just been in hospital this week having an operation conducted by the best surgeon in his field at the company's health insurance expense.
Things are up and down in this industry as you know, but the fact remains that i joined a decent airline, get treated decently and enjoy some of the benefits that a rank of being an FO or above should have.
Horses for courses, but don't think that jmc or anyone else have treated me badly. They have not, and I don't think they would either.......
I am just sick and tired of seeing people being shafted and having to pay through the nose.... and before anyone asks.... I was lucky. I did not have to pay £6000 to CTC! Right place right time.......
After all, £60000 is enough in anyone's book surely?!?
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Hi Irish_Roll
I have done the screening for Ryanair both in Stockholm and CAE in Maastricht, Holland!
I failed in Stockholm earlier this year. The Simulator was pretty hard, fokker 28. Sid,Star,NDB,ILS,Steep,Slow,Stall etc etc!
I had 1600 hrs total, mostly multi turbine IFR, and it seemed like they wanted to **** around with me because of my experience.
It could not be compared to the screening in Holland at the CAE!! Was easy, and I passed. 737-800 TQC in july.
Good luck!;)
I have done the screening for Ryanair both in Stockholm and CAE in Maastricht, Holland!
I failed in Stockholm earlier this year. The Simulator was pretty hard, fokker 28. Sid,Star,NDB,ILS,Steep,Slow,Stall etc etc!
I had 1600 hrs total, mostly multi turbine IFR, and it seemed like they wanted to **** around with me because of my experience.
It could not be compared to the screening in Holland at the CAE!! Was easy, and I passed. 737-800 TQC in july.
Good luck!;)