Open Horizon Aviation - A320 Line training program (Pay to fly)
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Bad experience with them
Hi. Here is my experience with them:
Bad experience. I had an agreement with Trade Air to fly for free for them and Open Horizon stopped my flying because a year prior I had applied to Open Horizon. This was very irritating and caused me to get stopped on my flying. Do not recommend. Their prices are also very high. Very unpleasant experience. Seems like they are only interested in money and not really to help.
Bad experience. I had an agreement with Trade Air to fly for free for them and Open Horizon stopped my flying because a year prior I had applied to Open Horizon. This was very irritating and caused me to get stopped on my flying. Do not recommend. Their prices are also very high. Very unpleasant experience. Seems like they are only interested in money and not really to help.
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Fair company!
There are job opportunities. Important that they pay you during the training.
Of course, there are cheaper companies, or by the time you start flying, it takes a long time. you just wait and wait. like Avion Express.
Several cadet pilots said they had to wait 2-3 months.
We started together, but by the time I got to 300 hours, they only had 50-80 hours with another company.
I highly recommend it.
They have helped many cadet pilots.
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You are prepared and experienced, none of them will ask you if you have been in a P2F programme.
There are also performance , expectations. Some of the Avion pilots started out that way.
Either RYR or Wizz will put you in that program.
There's no point in arguing about it.
There are also performance , expectations. Some of the Avion pilots started out that way.
Either RYR or Wizz will put you in that program.
There's no point in arguing about it.
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[QUOTE=Stjepa;11342819]As I understand, Open horizon aviation works solely with Trade Air airline providing p2f pilots for them
There are 2 options: 300h/500h.
You will fly a lot, but it's only to make you finish all your hours fast and kick you out to "make room" for a new p2f pilot.
If you are required for additional training all will be paid by you.
They have a couple of permanent F/Os that are also used as a reference for new candidates, just to show that they do offer a permanent contract after, and as I understand even they are not flying a lot.
They will promise you whatever you want, ask everything in writing before signing the contract!! especially if you want to get a permanent contract after!
The only way to continue flying is to buy more and more hours.
Just be very careful before signing anything and try to find another company that can give you a permanent contract after finishing your paid hours.[/Q
are already paid from the first day.
There are 2 options: 300h/500h.
You will fly a lot, but it's only to make you finish all your hours fast and kick you out to "make room" for a new p2f pilot.
If you are required for additional training all will be paid by you.
They have a couple of permanent F/Os that are also used as a reference for new candidates, just to show that they do offer a permanent contract after, and as I understand even they are not flying a lot.
They will promise you whatever you want, ask everything in writing before signing the contract!! especially if you want to get a permanent contract after!
The only way to continue flying is to buy more and more hours.
Just be very careful before signing anything and try to find another company that can give you a permanent contract after finishing your paid hours.[/Q
are already paid from the first day.
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Hi. Here is my experience with them:
Bad experience. I had an agreement with Trade Air to fly for free for them and Open Horizon stopped my flying because a year prior I had applied to Open Horizon. This was very irritating and caused me to get stopped on my flying. Do not recommend. Their prices are also very high. Very unpleasant experience. Seems like they are only interested in money and not really to help.
Bad experience. I had an agreement with Trade Air to fly for free for them and Open Horizon stopped my flying because a year prior I had applied to Open Horizon. This was very irritating and caused me to get stopped on my flying. Do not recommend. Their prices are also very high. Very unpleasant experience. Seems like they are only interested in money and not really to help.
It's not always the company.
I recommend it, better than Avion.
What they promise, they deliver. Avion also promises a lot, you just have to wait.
They are a fair company and they have fair people.
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now there are several companies, question when you can start flying.
Smartlynx and Avion have several months to wait, Open is at least dealing with it so don't wait too long.
Smartlynx and Avion have several months to wait, Open is at least dealing with it so don't wait too long.
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How long do they take to finish 500hrs? & are they working with smartlynx & avion too or just tradeair?
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Have you contacted them? I did talk with them in 2022 I think but never went through as it was too expensive then (~70k euros for TR & 500hrs), no job guarantee + you have to pay for all your expenses. I would never recommend P2F unless you absolutely don't have any other choice.
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i did contact them but here's what i made out of it, apparently pay to fly is a dangeours option due to the fact of how much money is being invested plus you would be on thier hands at the whole time during the course which means that they can terminate the contract when they feel like it. This made me realise that no pay to fly is actually worth it, and one more thing I haven't seen any "alumini's" on their page which is a big red flag. They even told me there are a few pilots from Asia who got jobs after they joined them, but who actually knows? a salespersons job is to sell, whether its crooked or legit. once you pay the money for the course, your money is on their hands and plus they have utmost control over you. Thank you for reading and safe landings!
You will be unemployable by any decent carrier. You will not be thought anything.There are plenty of flying jobs at the moment, why demonstrate to every airline that you are desperate and couldn't get employment in this market?
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If you have funding for P2F I'd advise taking it and using it for an instructor rating. I believe this will benefit you more in the long run rather than going through with something like this.
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I can’t believe what I am reading! Stay away from this! I’ve worked in recruitment and wouldn’t touch anyone who’d come through a scheme like this. Absolutely unbelievable.
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I myself have been waiting for 3yrs now, will touch 30 soon, only getting by because i have a high paying degree outside aviation & currently engaged with family business. I am slowly accepting the fact that i might not be able to work as pilot while i watch 20yr olds get into RHS of a jet.
Understand not everyone has a strong passport or comes from a country with extensive general aviation. Some simply dont have any other choice. I know many competent pilots who simply cant get a break... even when right now when airlines are hiring like crazy. For them it is just a way to gain those crucial hrs.
I myself have been waiting for 3yrs now, will touch 30 soon, only getting by because i have a high paying degree outside aviation & currently engaged with family business. I am slowly accepting the fact that i might not be able to work as pilot while i watch 20yr olds get into RHS of a jet.
I myself have been waiting for 3yrs now, will touch 30 soon, only getting by because i have a high paying degree outside aviation & currently engaged with family business. I am slowly accepting the fact that i might not be able to work as pilot while i watch 20yr olds get into RHS of a jet.
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P2F, OPEN, BAA, TRADEAIR, SMARTLYNX, AVIONEXPRESS, and all the rest of those criminal bottom feeders are just what they are: criminals.
Avoid at all costs.
And it is true, no any serious company would call you for an assessment or even replying to your email when reading those cancerous names on your CV.
Avoid at all costs.
And it is true, no any serious company would call you for an assessment or even replying to your email when reading those cancerous names on your CV.
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Let me join here..
My experience does not reflect the bad words here. I mean, it is really a huge commitment when it comes to financials but they are also bounded by the law.
I have finished their training and never experienced outcastment when it comes to HR departments. I am from non-eu country and they have supported me to get residency permit and there was no problem at all.
All the LTs that I have flown with were real experienced people and they have taught a lot.
So compare your options but I think it's rather a fast track than a scam
My experience does not reflect the bad words here. I mean, it is really a huge commitment when it comes to financials but they are also bounded by the law.
I have finished their training and never experienced outcastment when it comes to HR departments. I am from non-eu country and they have supported me to get residency permit and there was no problem at all.
All the LTs that I have flown with were real experienced people and they have taught a lot.
So compare your options but I think it's rather a fast track than a scam