Open Horizon Aviation - A320 Line training program (Pay to fly)
Hello all,
Does anyone have any experiance with Open Horizon Aviation as for thier type rating and pay to fly line training on A320? I'd appriciate any onfo you have, there's not much info on thier website... www open-horizon-aviation com/ thanks! |
Hello,
I don't have no experience with them but curious about the cost. Have they provided you with a quote? Are you already type rated? |
I'm not type rated, CPL/MEP/IR with UPRT, I have not spoken to them yet.
I'd like to hear from someone who was there personally, they write in the website that job is guaranteed, and would like to verify that. The little I could gather is that they offer a 300h+type (around 50k euros) OR 500h + type (around 70k euros) As the potential investment on my side is significant, I want as much info as possible before putting that kind of money.... They are also not disclosing the name of the airline in which the training will be done and that raises a red flag P2f sucks, but I'm considering it. |
Originally Posted by Panprdel
(Post 11342274)
I'm not type rated, CPL/MEP/IR with UPRT, I have not spoken to them yet.
I'd like to hear from someone who was there personally, they write in the website that job is guaranteed, and would like to verify that. The little I could gather is that they offer a 300h+type (around 50k euros) OR 500h + type (around 70k euros) As the potential investment on my side is significant, I want as much info as possible before putting that kind of money.... They are also not disclosing the name of the airline in which the training will be done and that raises a red flag P2f sucks, but I'm considering it. You're better off with RYR's p2f cadet**** scam |
Originally Posted by Panprdel
(Post 11341994)
Hello all,
Does anyone have any experiance with Open Horizon Aviation as for thier type rating and pay to fly line training on A320? I'd appriciate any onfo you have, there's not much info on thier website... www open-horizon-aviation com/ thanks! There are 2 options: 300h/500h. You will fly a lot, but it's only to make you finish all your hours fast and kick you out to "make room" for a new p2f pilot. If you are required for additional training all will be paid by you. They have a couple of permanent F/Os that are also used as a reference for new candidates, just to show that they do offer a permanent contract after, and as I understand even they are not flying a lot. They will promise you whatever you want, ask everything in writing before signing the contract!! especially if you want to get a permanent contract after! The only way to continue flying is to buy more and more hours. Just be very careful before signing anything and try to find another company that can give you a permanent contract after finishing your paid hours. |
No salary at all
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Originally Posted by Panprdel
(Post 11342274)
I'm not type rated, CPL/MEP/IR with UPRT, I have not spoken to them yet.
I'd like to hear from someone who was there personally, they write in the website that job is guaranteed, and would like to verify that. The little I could gather is that they offer a 300h+type (around 50k euros) OR 500h + type (around 70k euros) As the potential investment on my side is significant, I want as much info as possible before putting that kind of money.... They are also not disclosing the name of the airline in which the training will be done and that raises a red flag P2f sucks, but I'm considering it. What’s your plan after? You’ve now got 500 hours and an A320 rating but no employment record, and a rating that’s going stale the second you get off the plane? Who on earth would want to hire you at that point? |
The TR will stay with you until it expires.
That's why you need to be sure to get permanent contract and not pay them for nothing. |
Good morning guys,
I would know information about your discussion. What did you mean about permanent contract? So It's mandatory to have a permanent contract, even for only 1 years, for instance? thx |
Originally Posted by Panprdel
(Post 11342274)
P2f sucks, but I'm considering it.
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Originally Posted by Falcon_net
(Post 11343678)
Good morning guys,
I would know information about your discussion. What did you mean about permanent contract? So It's mandatory to have a permanent contract, even for only 1 years, for instance? thx those the "lucky" ones with salary, fly around 7 mounts in the year and without any salary when they are not flying. so the search for the job starts again now you need to search for other company |
Originally Posted by Falcon_net
(Post 11343678)
Good morning guys,
I would know information about your discussion. What did you mean about permanent contract? So It's mandatory to have a permanent contract, even for only 1 years, for instance? thx
Originally Posted by rudestuff
(Post 11343727)
Why not just wait and get a job that pays? P2F is for the unemployable. Do you really think a decent employer will touch you after you've been on a P2F scheme?
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Will they line train you or just let you do the walk around and the radios?
I've flown with some p2f graduates and it can be hard to justify letting them fly a leg with any challenge. |
Originally Posted by Consol
(Post 11344111)
Will they line train you or just let you do the walk around and the radios?
I've flown with some p2f graduates and it can be hard to justify letting them fly a leg with any challenge. |
I’m considering it because it’s a little harder for me to get employed in the EU, I have a permanent residency in a member state and basically can work and live everywhere within the union, the issue is that I’m less attractive for airlines due to lack of citizenship.
I went to Wizz assessment, gave it my best, passed, and then got screened out because of the passport issue, my explanations that it’s possible to live and work anywhere on the network were not enough. That was a real breaking point to fall to this kind technicality – after knowing I did good. My plan is to find a company that will take me with the current situation, I’m willing to pay for TR, but p2f raises too many concerns for such a big investment. After reading the comments to this post I’m not so inclined to finance this satanic practice of paying for work. |
Originally Posted by Consol
(Post 11344111)
Will they line train you or just let you do the walk around and the radios?
I've flown with some p2f graduates and it can be hard to justify letting them fly a leg with any challenge. |
Sorry to hear that, and i hope you will find a proper company soon.
If you have no choose, there is lots of p2f companies, try to choose one that will give you work after (not only promises) and will not treat you like second hand pilot like Open horizon aviation or trade air do. |
Originally Posted by Panprdel
(Post 11341994)
Hello all,
Does anyone have any experiance with Open Horizon Aviation as for thier type rating and pay to fly line training on A320? I'd appriciate any onfo you have, there's not much info on thier website... www open-horizon-aviation com/ thanks! |
I did an online chat with them back to 2021. Never started as the prices were too high, plus the hiring chances especially at that time were very low, contrarily to what they wanted to show.
Nowaday the situation is different, everyone is looking for pilots, and if you haven't been lucky to find anything, I would suggest you to consider a company where you can sign a contract before shelling out for a TR. I think one of them is Smartlynx, but there are many others. Or eventually do a TR yourself with half of the price and try to go to Avion on other desperate companies just to make your experience. |
Originally Posted by Hogos
(Post 11518436)
I did an online chat with them back to 2021. Never started as the prices were too high, plus the hiring chances especially at that time were very low, contrarily to what they wanted to show.
Nowaday the situation is different, everyone is looking for pilots, and if you haven't been lucky to find anything, I would suggest you to consider a company where you can sign a contract before shelling out for a TR. I think one of them is Smartlynx, but there are many others. Or eventually do a TR yourself with half of the price and try to go to Avion on other desperate companies just to make your experience. |
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