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Old 19th Aug 2021, 00:20
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Employment of Non-EU citizens

Hi folks,

There's a similar post from 2012, but slightly different orientation , so I hope not to be repeating something that has been already discussed.

Does anyone what is the approach of the airlines or other aviation companies when it comes to recruiting non-EU citizens? The jobs advertisements always include as a requirement "unrestricted right to live and work in the EU", however I wonder how they approach this.

Long story short: I am from a non-EU country living in Poland and planning to start a 0-fATPL course (after years of saving, I finally can afford it). My residence permit allows me to be employed by ANY company in Poland.... hence, I am trying to find out what will be my possiblities and chances of finding a job in aviation in Poland itself or other EU countries (not taking into consideration the COVID situation, but their approach of hiring a non-EU person)...

Any kind of feedbbacks, inputs or experiences will be HUGELY appreciated, I am trying really to take into consideration all the aspects before signing for it.

Cheers!
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Old 20th Aug 2021, 08:19
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Sadly you will struggle to find employment under those circumstances, it is now the same for British Citizens as most require full EU residency rights. Some companies, like DHL, will ask for right to live in the country of base and others will only consider EU citizenship.
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Old 20th Aug 2021, 19:10
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It's hard, but possible. Once you get some experience and flight hours with local companies in Poland, you can became a self employed and work as a contractor (RYR eventually works like that) - you basically will "work" and pay taxes in Poland and commute to the base in the other EU country. But again, not all companies allow it. Anyway, I think once you finish your 0-fATPL course and start getting experience locally you already will have a citizenship in Poland, so all EU market will be opened for you.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 14:44
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Are you allowed multiple entries in and out of Poland? I don't know what visa you're on, but that's worth a look.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 14:56
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I don’t think you realise how difficult it is to get citizenship, especially Poland. The language test is notoriously difficult.

Back to OP, you won’t get hired by any European airline without unlimited European right to live and work, so EU passport. Has happened in the past for highly experienced pilots but those days are long gone and you aren’t highly experienced.

But it’s not all bad as you can work as an instructor or at a smaller company and build experience. You can live quite well instructing full-time in Poland and with a permanent residence permit and lots of hiring you may be able to find something (Covid-19 recovery etc etc)
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 23:13
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Find a nice Polish girl and marry her!
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 23:39
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Still will have to wait at least 3 years. Marriage does not give you automatic citizenship.
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Old 22nd Aug 2021, 00:18
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What about this: "Unrestricted right to live and work in the EU or Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Moldova, North Macedonia, Russia, Serbia, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom" Thatīs a Wizzair requirement. What does this mean? Itīs better to have the work permit in, lets say Moldova, than in Poland like the OP?
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Old 22nd Aug 2021, 06:34
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I'm eventually from non-EU country working now in the Czech Republic as a pilot on bizjet. I had to get a work permit exactly for the pilot position which took me around 5 months. Now I already have got a permanent residence permit, which allows me to work unrestricted in CZ and as a contractor in all EU, especially it's sort of a common thing in the business aviation. And in 4 years I will be able to apply for the citizenship. Yep, language test is mandatory, but living here in the country it's easy to learn it (I also had an intensive 6 months language cource and passed the B1 level).

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But it’s not all bad as you can work as an instructor or at a smaller company and build experience. You can live quite well instructing full-time in Poland and with a permanent residence permit and lots of hiring you may be able to find something
That's exactly how I found my first pilot job on a jet
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Old 22nd Aug 2021, 06:36
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It means your permanent base will be in these countries and you always will stay there without a "proper" EU passport

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Old 29th Apr 2022, 06:06
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how did you get your work permit ?
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