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Old 1st Jan 2021, 13:10
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I am sick and tired of hotels. Covid restrictions probably have affected my opinion.

But yes, I reiterate I would do it all over again.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 13:11
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Would I do it again?

I think I would yes, but not in times like these.

I started flight training in 2011. In the hope 2013 the Market will be better. Which was not the case.

Started working in a small airline operating for the 2nd biggest Airline in Germany on the Bombardier Dash8 Q400 as a Flight Attendant. Then after 20 months moved on to the mainline as a FA.

All together 3.5 years working as a FA. Learned a lot in that job and the Airline was really grateful to us. It was the best employer I ever worked for in my life.
The airline went Bust.

Then worked in service on trains in DB on the ICE trains. Sucked all the way. Luckily FINALLY got my first job on B737 in an ACMI Club. Flew there 2 seasons and moved on from there to a Small ACMI company also on the B737. Worked there 6 months, and then BAM. Corona. Bye-bye flying.

But I am very hard to break, so decided to start my own business together with a business partner. It starts to develop very well and expecting to become successful this year.
In the meanwhile, as I have not much of transferable skills, I am working in one of the Big guys in Parcel Business as a delivery guy and next to it Food delivery in Takeaway as well. Just to pay the bills.

What I would suggest anyone with a passion for Aviation and becoming a pilot. Make sure you dont screw yourself with huge loans and going to L3 and such Scum clubs who rip you off. Study, work and in free time obtain licenses if you really want to become a pilot. Then you will have not so much financial stress in times like these.

My debt is not excessively high, so I can survive pretty well from my present two jobs.

All in all, if you want to become a pilot, make sure you REALLY want it. Otherwise, you waste loads of money and then you will find out that your passion was actually not so great as you thought, but then it is to late.

It is not all about flying a shiny jet. Ray Ban Aviator Glasses, Breitling Watches, having fun with Stewardesses.
It is a tough job, very undervalued by most airlines and you will be treated as such.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:43
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One small piece of advice for those fighting an uphill battle now: never lose the long-term perspective. Everyone has hiccups in their careers. I was also not spared spending a year out of flying on one occasion. I know many, many other colleagues, excellent guys who eventually found good long-term flying jobs, who have also spent extended periods in unemployment or working other jobs for one reason or another.

It works differently for everyone. Someone has a very difficult start but progresses quite quickly and successfully afterwards. Someone else starts off swiftly enough but encounters some major setback later on. Some guys spend the best part of a decade flying part-time in GA and working second jobs, but eventually get a jet command on the fourth year of their first airline job. Others walk into a RHS straight out of flight school, but remain stuck right there for 10+ years. Everyone is different. Never suffer comparing yourself to anyone else and thinking that they did better or whatever. You're a unique case in yourself and you have your own path to follow. Don't give up and you'll eventually get where you want.

Stay strong and all the best for the New Year!
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 07:08
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Well, I believe that this is a job for people that follw a dream or for daddy's son.
Pros: no idea
Cons: huge mountain of money invested, never end stress, always a new training to pay for be current or update, job instability, pay to flight jobs, every 10 years a new crackdown, salary very low....

my suggestion?
invest all the money in a good university (economy or medicine), flight at aeroclub, maybe one day buy your own airplane.

Life is real, dreams not.

wish everybody a wonderful year
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 09:36
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As if other fields are not in trouble nowadays
So why did you do it? Did you follow a dream or were you following your dad's footsteps?

Let's talk about your cons: I did modular training down to a very reasonable cost, stress is not necessarily bad (remember Human Performance), and my employer pays for the training. Even the money isn't quite bad compared to other jobs out there, if you happen to fly for a cargo outfit by pure luck even better.

If I'd never gotten a job in the first place, my opinion would have been probably very different. But one has to determine the reason for not getting a job in the first place in good times.

Just trying to shed away some negativity.
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 13:24
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Peace and love dear "argue lover" friend.
Everybody have different point of view and nobody have to give you any kind of explanation as you are a normal common human like everybody here. Every post you comment is just for debate, just leave alone the community.
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 13:26
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It is not for debate. I am just trying to bust your negative points. Those cons aren't real, at all.
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 13:36
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Maybe for you are not real, but... as the world is very big and full of people... your history is not equal for everybody.
Again, happy for you that your life is just roses and flowers, but not for everybody.
As you mentioned to remember human factors, remember also behaviour and macho attitude.

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Old 7th Jan 2021, 11:12
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Whilst I have enjoyed a career in avaition very much - would I do it again? - NO!
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 11:17
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Great fun while it lasted - but quit while you are ahead!
Architect for me next time
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Old 14th Jan 2021, 16:12
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Interesting read, definitely no one had expected 2020 end up like this.

I was wondering, How would the market look like in 2022 or 2023?

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Old 14th Jan 2021, 16:24
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I reckon that towards the end of the next Spring things will start picking up slowly but steadily with more vaccines becoming available. I think it's fair to assume that big players like Ryanair and Wizz will have some places for cadets in 2022. Whether you like it or not, for several reasons, there will always be places for cadets.

And if the vaccines don't work, well, we have to go back to some sort of normality at some point but that will take much longer. And I don't even want to think about this outcome.
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