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Cadet Programmes

Old 13th Oct 2020, 20:54
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Cadet Programmes

Hi I am wondering if anyone here knows anything about pilot recruitment offered by any of these companies, or any other companies where percentages or the full fees are covered by the companies and how to get into them. I would like to start making contact with these companies ASAP to get onto good terms with them and learn more about them.
  • Singapore (Full Fees Covered)
  • Austrian (Full Fees Covered)
  • Air France (Full Fees Covered)
  • Aer Lingus (Full Fees Covered)
  • British Airways (Loan Security Covered)
  • Virgin Atlantic (Loan Security Covered)
  • Iberian (Half Funded)
If anyone has taken part or knows anything about these courses please let me know
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Old 13th Oct 2020, 21:52
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Where did you get the info about all those programmes in the first place? And what date did the publication have on it? I don't mean to be nasty, but I would be mightily surprised if any of these companies accept any cadet applications in the coming years, let alone fund the initial training. Most, if not all of them have either recently laid off many experienced pilots due to COVID or are considering doing so in the very near future.
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Old 13th Oct 2020, 22:02
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Sorry but have to agree with the response you’ve had already.

COVID has reset everything, the ideal that anyone will be sponsored in the next 5-10 years is wildly optimistic.
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Old 13th Oct 2020, 22:10
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Pretty much all of those programmes have been terminated and cease to exist because of COVID19, the people on the courses you mention are jobless, with or without qualifications and many are seeking alternative careers given the mass unemployment in Aviation.

This industry is on it's knees, come back in 5-10 years. Don't believe me? PM and I'll refer you.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 09:32
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And even IF those programmes would still exist:
I bet for OS/LH you need German, for AF you definitely need French,
and for IB most probably Spanish. If you speak all these languages on a conversational level, then congrats - otherwise I wouldn't have too much hope of getting in...
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 13:33
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This is more of a long term thing as i am currently only in high school so I am hoping that the cadet programs will be back again.
I have learnt about these programs through other forums however a lot of the information has changed because of covid and the affects we are seeing.
Overall I am going to keep looking into cadet programs over the next few years and the affect that covid will have on them.

Even if I am unable to be sponsored i would still look to continue its most definitely just a prefered route at this stage especially with Singapore.

I don't graduate high school for another few years anyway and free uni education is available in my country. I could give this another 9 years to come back with a Masters in Aeronautical Engineering as well. Do you think there will be recovery by that stage?
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 14:18
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The RAF is free and about your only chance of getting any sort of sponsored flying for the foreseeable future.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 06:10
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You seriously asking for a prediction on 9 years.....

Let me just tell you I got 2 balls and none of them crystal 🤦‍♂️
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 08:06
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Logan123987

No need for nasty answers, we have all been there, and many of us did not have access to such resources as we have today.
As you know at the moment there is nothing happening, but of course this will change in time, how long is hard for anyone to predict. But you should not need to worry about this at this stage in your life, as you have many years still to get into the business. Air Force as someone mentioned is of course a great way to get going, and probably the only place where you can get fully sponsored training.

As for the others, depends where you are eligible to work, if you are British, you can probably discard all except BA and Virgin, as with Brexit coming soon, you won't be eligible to work for any of the others. And I believe Singapore have very strict residency rules, and unless you have Singaporean residency, you are very unlikely to get offer from them.

You don't give enough information of yourself to give much more advice on this. However I would stay away from Virgin, if they at all survive this pandemic, and BA is not necessarily the great all in life, so maybe avoid narrowing down your choices to large national careers only, as there are many other goods jobs out there too.

I would recommend, look into local flying clubs, when you are old enough maybe try to take a few flying lessons, even try to take your PPL and see if you still enjoy it, and slowly build your career that way. You can find work to finance much of this training, and avoiding putting yourself into massive debts with large training companies. Stay away from integrated courses from L3 and Oxford, as they are just money grabbing machines, and they can't give you anything that you can't get somewhere else for half the price.

Besides that, good luck, and stay focused, do good in school and if you can take a degree before flying that is great, as you never know what might happen, and it's good to have something to fall back on if there is another crisis, loss of medical etc.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 13:55
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Hey Logan123987,

Don't be put off your dream.

For now, there will be no cadet programmes and unlikely to be any in the foreseeable.
Self funded training is the only real option which may sound impossible but it isn't.

I'd suggest starting with some trial flying lessons and if you can, ride along with some PPL holders, then gradually self fund yourself through that alongside a sensible career that will provide you with a solid income, which will be needed to pay for your training.
Consider university and a career which could take you down a path that would support future aviation learning, engineering is a great option.

If you're based in Scotland I'd happily take you on a flight.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 22:26
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Blessed Logan,

I was pleased to be able to offer my assistance as my airline is offering FULLY FUNDED flying training tuition learning courses of aviation. The Minister of Aviation wants to keep these courses secret, but I want to share this blessed secret worth 1.3 MILLION USD with true and willing admirers of aviation.

please write back with your account number and sort code and we can begin the process of making your blessed dream a reality.

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Old 28th Oct 2020, 15:47
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Why is the post above still present? Thatís a blatant scam
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 16:22
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Originally Posted by allert View Post
Why is the post above still present? Thatís a blatant scam
There will still always be the few who will ask the question,Ē i have submitted my paperwork and paid a portion, but now i dont hear anything from them, any advice?Ē
but what do i know, iím just furloughed pilot.

after this pandemic, dont bother trying to get a free ride into the industry. That is now history, the sponsored cadet programmes are on life support (just biding their time before the airlines pull the plug).

And dont bother looking overseas for a job unless you have any decent experience, most expats jobs are being shaved daily, even locals arent spared. Governments will only look after their own citizens
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 19:38
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Originally Posted by allert View Post
Why is the post above still present? Thatís a blatant scam
Even we Mods can tell itís a joke...

Read the last line.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 19:45
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Must have missed that
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