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Old 28th Apr 2020, 05:18
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This thread is getting totally out of control.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 10:58
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The comments about being 'over-qualified' are quite apposite. I hit that problem the day I graduated from university. The company I had worked for in my student vacations turned me down - they said they didn't need people with First Class Honours degrees. British Railways (my father was a senior officer) wouldn't take me either, same reason. Rolls-Royce were less fussy, and I eventually became a senior aircraft engine designer with them. Hey! you may even have flown planes with my engines in - anybody flown with R-R Conways? - I was in the team that designed the Conway, the first by pass engine. I think the rest is history as they say.

This problem of holding above average or specialised qualifications will often bite you. Later on in my career I was made redundant, when the outfit I was in went bust. It took quite a time to find a new employer - they all thought I would not stay long. `sound familiar? One company saw my potential, hired me anyway into a 'created' job, and then moved me rapidly up their engineering management chain, till I was right at the top. They saw potential, not problems.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 13:25
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Yes, BOAC and BA VC10s !
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 17:21
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Originally Posted by bringbackthe80s View Post
This thread is getting totally out of control.
Why?

The immediate few posts before that one should have been really useful to many.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 18:18
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There's a couple of flying jobs going with West Yorkshire Police if anybody is in the vicinity.

Unable to link but the details are:

NPAS (fixed wing)

£57825-£60942 plus £7k Factor payment

Based at Doncaster

4 on 4 off 12 hour shifts.

All details can be found on West Yorkshure Police's jobs website.

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Old 1st May 2020, 16:07
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That's a good one tommybuk, I'm sure many of us would jump at that opportunity!
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Old 1st May 2020, 16:08
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Why on earth is the in the 'wannabes' forum?

I'm pretty sure nearly every one of us is a current pilot posting here. Except for the odd train driver, who we all envy now.
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Old 29th May 2020, 03:21
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Originally Posted by Chris the Robot View Post
I've never really understood why people max themselves out on spending, anyone who is in a well-remunerated job you'd think would be able to get six months' living costs together fairly quickly. In my case, I was saving up for the modular route, though given the situation I don't think I'd consider self-funded training unless the recovery is very strong indeed or some other major event happens. I'd consider going for any fully-funded airline schemes, though I doubt they'll exist for a while.

Over on the railway, in the UK, a well known train operator who runs the West Coast expresses is currently recruiting for trainee drivers right now. Even though it's not especially difficult to find capable trainees given the numbers that apply, those who are successful won't have to pay a penny for their training which lasts over a year and which will cost their employer well over £100k. Instead, they'll be paid a smidge under £40k a year to sit in a classroom and after a few months drive under supervision and route learn, they'll then go up towards full money which they'll get once they've been qualified a year or two. The entire time, they'll be on a defined benefit pension scheme. That's what put into perspective for me. I may be a bit biased though at the end of the day and if I had the choice I'd rather be flying a plane than driving a train, however it is just a job at the end of the day. Nothing more, nothing less.

Sounds good, but these companies donít seem keen on commuters - every train driver job seems to be ď must live 45 mins max ď from base .
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Old 31st May 2020, 11:55
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Originally Posted by Meester proach View Post
Sounds good, but these companies donít seem keen on commuters - every train driver job seems to be ď must live 45 mins max ď from base .
It's due to something called the "fatigue index". Drivers who have a long commute before and after their shift are more likely to be fatigued and are considered to be at greater risk of an operational incident. Some companies will allow potential trainees to relocate, though quite a few won't since they took people on who had moved and those people moved to a qualified driver role in their original area after qualifying. The greatest amount of recruitment is always usually in and around London, though Cross Country and Avanti have a lot of retirements coming up, TPE are short and GWR expanded services by quite a lot over the past couple of years.

It's pretty much a one-way career move and it may well appeal to any pilot who takes a pessimistic view of the future of the pilot role.
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Old 31st May 2020, 14:23
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Didnít a bunch of Harrier pilots redeploy as train drivers ?
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