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Old 4th Aug 2019, 19:48
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How important are training reports?

Iím looking for someone to advise me on my current situation. Some years ago I invested in flight training with a highly coveted flight training organisation. I successfully obtained a CPL and IR. I didnít train for an MCC.

Iíve been away from aviation for some years now and Iím currently working in an IT job with a steady income. My current job pays the bills but it doesnít satisfy me in the way that working as a pilot would. I am yearning to get back into flying and I'm willing to invest in further flight training. The question is: Should I?

Reading over my old flight training reports they appear to portray me as average at best. Given the highly competitive nature of the pilot job market does this mean that Iím better off trying to forget my dreams completely? Are detailed training reports the sort of thing that are analysed or do organisations typically place more emphasis on their own assessments and aptitude tests? I am confident that I have what it takes to perform well in future training but Iím worried that further investment wonít materialise. I do have a first time CPL pass and a first time partial IR pass on record.

Assuming that further investment would be worthwhile, would a meer MCC rating be sufficient or would I need to go further and fund myself for type and/or line training in order to give myself a reasonable chance?

Iím single with no dependencies so Iím willing to work anywhere in the world. I do frequently come across articles that describe how the global aviation industry is set for massive expansion over the next decade but Iím still sceptical as to how this will affect the demand for low hour pilots. Iíve also noticed that carriers abroad tend to prefer citizens of their own nationality and/or speakers of the local language.

Aviators, please offer your candid advice.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 20:20
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What tends to be very important if apply for a descent carrier is how you do on the day of the assessment rather then your history.

i would recommend investing in an APS MCC course that proves your up to airline pilot standard

while at the same time, keeping ATPL knowledge fresh and practicing for psychometric test

like skytest for


mollymawk for

DLR for the Lufthansa group

when getting called up

invest in simulator preparation and interview practice

thats my advice

Flight schools prepare you to live on Earth

regardess which school you go to

Airlines are looking to see if you can live on Mars

End of the day prepare well!

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Old 5th Aug 2019, 11:47
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Average at best

In my last company 80% at least were standard (average)..10 % high standard and 10% marginal.
The joke? was whats the difference between high standard and not qualified..not a lot.
Be happy with standard..its what pilots are paid for.
One of my checkers wrote "he sets himself an Abysmally low standard and continually fails to attain it".
Another well known #### said to a captain " I am going to ask you one last question and if you get it right I will give you an "A"..Captain picks up his briefcase and walks away calling over his shoulder "I'm paid for a C".
If every report that was written about me was believed I would have been an aircraft cleaner at best.
good luck.
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I see that you obtained your CPL/IR through CTC aged 29 in 2013. You seem to imply no flying since then from your previous posts?

So the first step is to obtain your class one medical again. If it has expired by more than 5 (?) years then an initial class one is needed again??
With regards to the flying side, there is a seven year limit, without flying, impacting upon your IR. Renewal or full course again. So licence issue 2013, IR expiry 2014 plus 7. Need to be with a valid licence by 2020/21.

So speak to an ATO about your CPL/IR validity requirements; then once you are current again, think about the MCC be it MCC/JOC or APS.
Once the MCC is complete, the acid test will be a sim ride with your perspective employer.

The bottom line is that if you are really passionate, have the determination and can focus you will succeed; simply do it.

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