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Old 16th Aug 2019, 09:40
  #101 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Originally Posted by travis.karl View Post
1. Sky was the first flight school with a cooperation agreement with RYR. So it was basically exclusive.
2. Even after 737 max crashes RYR continued to establish new partnerships with flight schools.

And now a question to all you paid pumpers:
Why would RYR do this if Sky would have done a great job and delivering good APS finishers?
Make up your mind you fools!
Rumours say that sky even recently lost their responsible person for their APS MCC courses. If this is true you must really reconsider selecting your flight school.
Well for me all of this points to a very clear direction.
What a bogus argument Carl. 3 months ago RYR Recruitment said in this very board that they were going to be taking in +1000 cadets over the next 18 months. It's pretty common knowledge that around 60% don't pass the final assessment but let's say 50/50 pass/fail rate. That's 2000 interviews at least! If Ryanair wants to increase the numbers of APS candidates to just 25% that's 500 people. No single MCC provider pumps out even close to those numbers in a year with normal MCC let alone a specific airline program. It's just logic that Ryanair would try to establish with other providers. Hell you could probably have a program at every MCC school in Europe and not get 1000 cadets that went through a specific RYR program.

With all that said I don't like the idea of APS. And a few instructors there didn't agree either. Reason being it's not a garantee that you will get the job in the end and every employer will know you weren't their first choice.

​​​​​I really think I'm living in bizarro world and we're talking about different schools. I don't know what you get from all this negative spamming.
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Old 16th Aug 2019, 09:50
  #102 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Originally Posted by travis.karl View Post
1. Sky was the first flight school with a cooperation agreement with RYR. So it was basically exclusive.
2. Even after 737 max crashes RYR continued to establish new partnerships with flight schools.

And now a question to all you paid pumpers:
Why would RYR do this if Sky would have done a great job and delivering good APS finishers?
Make up your mind you fools!
Rumours say that sky even recently lost their responsible person for their APS MCC courses. If this is true you must really reconsider selecting your flight school.
Well for me all of this points to a very clear direction.
So AFTA must have done a bad job too right because they were the first one with the 0 to Ryanair F/O program since Bartolini now has one too right? If you believe in all the rumours and not direct facts I am not sure aviation is the right industry for you.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 09:57
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Join Date: May 2019
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So much bs from fresh pilots

Polski, hawke
Either you hide the truth and distract
Or
You are completely naive and blind...
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Everybody knows about Sky except for poor students coming from outside Germany
Don't be silly. Read the facts. I have my sources and in business for many years. They all give sky 1 or 2 years until bankruptcy. And from what I've been told they are lying about their business. Big promises and plans but nothing happens. Just like the new simulator building. It's an open secret. According to sky they signed contracts and started construction months ago. But reality is there's nothing there!
LOLs everywhere, they are a joke
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 08:46
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Really? Please enlighten us with your sources.

I'll start with mine: myself. Begin with your ridiculous racist jab of poor non-german students; 6/8 students in my MCC were German, most instructors, are German. So they aren't tricking anyone. In fact they have a excellent reputation among German students.

The building itself is Lufthansa training center. Sky uses the simulator as does another provider. I don't know what construction they would even be able to do there as several companies use Lufthansa simulators. Aerologic, DHL, Lufthansa and countless others worldwide, there were some guys at the same hotel from Southeast Asia doing CRJ renewals. So Sky has absolutely nothing to do with any construction. The building which houses their 737 FBS has another 4 FTD.

I don't know what you get from this ridiculous smear campaign. You obviously are a sad individual. If anyone wants proper review just DM me. I'm not affiliated with anyone. Just someone who passed my MCC, passed my assessment, and waiting for my Type-rating.


BTW for the curious just look at the accounts running the negative spam. Dates they joined and writing style. Not even a coordinated effort, just one lonely individual.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 17:11
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Hi. Has any of you done the MCC/JOC at Sky4u recently? I would like some feedback.


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Old 27th Aug 2019, 08:29
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Originally Posted by Hawker400 View Post
Really? Please enlighten us with your sources.

I'll start with mine: myself. Begin with your ridiculous racist jab of poor non-german students; 6/8 students in my MCC were German, most instructors, are German. So they aren't tricking anyone. In fact they have a excellent reputation among German students.

The building itself is Lufthansa training center. Sky uses the simulator as does another provider. I don't know what construction they would even be able to do there as several companies use Lufthansa simulators. Aerologic, DHL, Lufthansa and countless others worldwide, there were some guys at the same hotel from Southeast Asia doing CRJ renewals. So Sky has absolutely nothing to do with any construction. The building which houses their 737 FBS has another 4 FTD.

I don't know what you get from this ridiculous smear campaign. You obviously are a sad individual. If anyone wants proper review just DM me. I'm not affiliated with anyone. Just someone who passed my MCC, passed my assessment, and waiting for my Type-rating.


BTW for the curious just look at the accounts running the negative spam. Dates they joined and writing style. Not even a coordinated effort, just one lonely individual.
I was a student there too and my instructor told me about the plans to built a simulator complex only for Sky4U. That's true. He said that they signed already agreements with Lufthansa. So I do care about these statements because they show the lies that sky tells.
I don't know you personally. But my advice is to take some information from the forum for real. I did more research on this and I have to say if I knew some stuff before I wouldn't have choosen Sky4u. There are better comp
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 13:28
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Join Date: Aug 2018
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Hi, just completed this week the MCC JOC with Sky4U, I posted a feedback in another topic, I simply copy/past it here

Hi,

I just completed the MCC/JOC with Sky4U. I read, sorry to say it, but a lot of bullshit about the situation.
The situation is good inside and their partnerships with airlines run well, I saw 5 people doing the Easyjet NGC this evening after our last sim, I saw also at least 2 groups of APS from Ryanair, I don't know how many MCC were running the last 2 weeks but with the time of some of our sims I think they have a lot!

About the MCC/JOC itself, I'm completely satisfied, we got some old experienced guys, some younger passionate and all high qualified, all flying or having flown for airlines and cargo.

The sim itself is realistic and belongs to the company (it's inside LAT's center but they have their offices and space for sim there), the SOPs well done too, I just wished to get it before going to the MCC when I suscribed to have more time to learn it, but on site it was fine.

We got for the last 3 days the CFI as instructor. He's simply amazing, he pushed us a lot, at the beginning I was freaking out about him, but he thinks very quickly and he's the most efficient instructor I got from my first hour of PPL, truly. He easily finds what are you weaknesses and helps to be better. He asks a lot of people, but besides he's very fair and positive, and out of the training he's a very nice guy!
It was not comfortable and we were not here to play with the sim, but the learning curve was very steep, I made progress and learnt about myself like I've never thought before, and his method works very well!

One minus point was sometimes the hours of sim, 2 times a very early wake up, the roster was in parallel stable as announced before the training, we had few very early sims as I wrote, few very late and few during daylight, it was a little bit complicated for my biorythm... but hey, you want to be a pilot, that's your future anyway, good to know how can be the life with this job... a minus for a plus so!

Last point, MCC JOC is not APS, according to regulation you attend all the course, you get the certificate... but that's not what Sky4U does, they have their standards (and they have high standards, good when you understand that it's maybe the last time you touch a sim before an assessment if you don't follow a sim preparation...), they train you to meet it and only when you reach what they want you to reach they give you the MCC. If you don't reach or fail something, you can get extra session, I don't know how it works and who pays for that, according to what I hear, it occured only a couple of times... Basically, they ask you a lot, but they give you the material to be ready for the sim, and if you do you job and commit yourself with personnal homework and full concentration within sim time, it can only go well.

I can only recommend them, but as I just wrote, you're not going to play with a sim for 2 weeks of holidays, prepare you to work and to put your skills to a new level.
I'll probably go there again for sim preparation, but I first have to be invited by an airline for that.
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 06:42
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Oh tevious...

Here, too? Really?
Who is believing you being a student? Lol
Should I say: hi Sky4u. How are you Kay?
Hahahaha


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Old 20th Sep 2019, 07:05
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You can still track my IP, i'm not using a VPN, with a French IP I don't know how it could be Kay...

Anyway at the last sim debriefing I reported to the staff what I read here before going to Sky4U, don't worry they see it too, but when I see how it works for them I think they don't care so much about their reputation...
You could be someone from another Sim Ato or a former employee of this company it wouldn't surprise me, but I have no time and no will to investigate that.
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Old 29th Sep 2019, 18:48
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Quick questions : How usefull is it to do a RYR Mentored APS MCC when RYR recruitement is closed ? How bad would it be to have written "RYR Mentored" on your APS MCC certificate when applying for other companies ? Also how usefull is it to complete a generic APS MCC for other airlines ?
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Old 30th Sep 2019, 08:12
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Certificate

Originally Posted by Kaillou View Post
Quick questions : How usefull is it to do a RYR Mentored APS MCC when RYR recruitement is closed ? How bad would it be to have written "RYR Mentored" on your APS MCC certificate when applying for other companies ? Also how usefull is it to complete a generic APS MCC for other airlines ?
I asked, there is a standard certificate of completion by EASA, it says “APS-MCC according EASA.FCL.735A AMC2” and any airline involvement is not mentioned.

The question is not how useful the generic APS is for other airlines but how useful it is for the one applying, it is the best MCC so far, in terms of training time and mental preparation.

Some people that have done a Ryanair mentored course have also been accepted by easyJet.
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