Is it possible for a whitetail cadet at FTE/CAE/L3 to be tagged during training?
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Is it possible for a whitetail cadet at FTE/CAE/L3 to be tagged during training?
I think this is an interesting question because after speaking to a member of staff at one of the major training schools informally, they told me that whitetail had the advantage of typically starting quicker than tagged schemes, and that exceptional cadets could end up at their desired carrier much faster than those who had gone via a tagged scheme.
So I was curious, has any high performing cadet been tagged by an airline during training, say after completing their groundschool or IR?
So I was curious, has any high performing cadet been tagged by an airline during training, say after completing their groundschool or IR?
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I think this is an interesting question because after speaking to a member of staff at one of the major training schools informally, they told me that whitetail had the advantage of typically starting quicker than tagged schemes, and that exceptional cadets could end up at their desired carrier much faster than those who had gone via a tagged scheme.
So I was curious, has any high performing cadet been tagged by an airline during training, say after completing their groundschool or IR?
So I was curious, has any high performing cadet been tagged by an airline during training, say after completing their groundschool or IR?
To my knowledge didn't happen to a single person when I was at one of "the big 3" last two years. Maybe it does but certainly wouldn't bank on it at all.
Starting quicker than tagged students? Again unlikely. The tagged students have the entire course from groundschool to type rating mapped out from day one with dates that have to be met. After all the airline demands cadets are ready by xxx date.
Take most things with a large dose of salt.
Starting quicker than tagged students? Again unlikely.
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As an ex CTC (L3 as they are known now) student, if there is one advice I could give you, I would not believe a single word the school says. They are absolutely full of sh*t and have left many students out of their holding pool.
de minimus non curat lex
On one hand the customer expects the provider to do their best to ensure they gain employment, and on the other hand the ATO is hardly going to recommend someone who gets through by the skin of their teeth.
They are most likely to be a definite training risk in the multi crew environment.
For the sake of transparency, the ATO needs to make this crystal clear on day one.
You the customer come up with the goods, and a recommendation will follow.
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Radarfire, you'll find that parkfell hits the nail on the head really and FTOs that help place you will typically make it clear fo their requirements list from the outset. Even then, "placement" is dependent on airlines actually hiring when you finish. The industry is different now from when I started. A lot of airlines now hire directly... as opposed to via larger FTOs. If you can I'd say go for a tagged scheme before anything else.
To answer the original question, yes... it is possible to be placed with an airline during your training, BUT and I stress the but there as it is vitally important you appreciate this, it will only happen at the say so of the airlines. BA last year had the sudden realisation they were short on numbers. After holding off DEP recruitment for so long when it came to recruiting again they were quite far out on numbers (their words not mine) they used L3 to fill the void. Being placed is not as simple as many believe it and you will be put through an airlines own selection process even after passing your entry exams to the school. In the case of BA it certainly wasn't the simplest.
If you've got what it takes to be noticed by an airline mid-training then that is amazing but its not smooth sailing if you are. You have to meet the airlines standards throughout training and for BA this meant 85% Groundschool with no deferrals of exams from each module, a first-series CPL and IR plus a Normal at AQC. You are then invited back for further assessment at their head office post-training and if successful offered a job. So it's by no means "i'm placed so let's kick back and relax". Having graduated L3 I can tell you learning to fly is not easy and those who think it is will probably be in for a shock. The CPL and IR are perhaps the most stressed I've ever been in my life. I failed the former and therefore BA waved me goodbye. Some will say I'm bitter.. I'm not at all, as everything in my life has happened for a reason and I'm now in a very good place career wise.
Hope this answers the question. Yes, it's possible.. but don't base your investment on that fact alone.
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To answer the original question, yes... it is possible to be placed with an airline during your training, BUT and I stress the but there as it is vitally important you appreciate this, it will only happen at the say so of the airlines. BA last year had the sudden realisation they were short on numbers. After holding off DEP recruitment for so long when it came to recruiting again they were quite far out on numbers (their words not mine) they used L3 to fill the void. Being placed is not as simple as many believe it and you will be put through an airlines own selection process even after passing your entry exams to the school. In the case of BA it certainly wasn't the simplest.
If you've got what it takes to be noticed by an airline mid-training then that is amazing but its not smooth sailing if you are. You have to meet the airlines standards throughout training and for BA this meant 85% Groundschool with no deferrals of exams from each module, a first-series CPL and IR plus a Normal at AQC. You are then invited back for further assessment at their head office post-training and if successful offered a job. So it's by no means "i'm placed so let's kick back and relax". Having graduated L3 I can tell you learning to fly is not easy and those who think it is will probably be in for a shock. The CPL and IR are perhaps the most stressed I've ever been in my life. I failed the former and therefore BA waved me goodbye. Some will say I'm bitter.. I'm not at all, as everything in my life has happened for a reason and I'm now in a very good place career wise.
Hope this answers the question. Yes, it's possible.. but don't base your investment on that fact alone.
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Im an ex fte and during my training (2016) many guys were offered interviews before the completed the training and some of them were already with an airline before the ir checkride (some rare cases even before the cpl).
No idea about the situation at the moment.
No idea about the situation at the moment.
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Im an ex fte and during my training (2016) many guys were offered interviews before the completed the training and some of them were already with an airline before the ir checkride (some rare cases even before the cpl).
No idea about the situation at the moment.
No idea about the situation at the moment.
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Hi,I did got a job quite quickly and the companies who were recruiting from the school at the time (2015/6) were easyjet (probably the biggest recruiter), aerlingus,volotea,thomas cook,air dolomiti, a cargo company,flybe,norwegian,vueling and air astana. Probably something else but i cant remember. No idea about the situation now. Most of the guys recruited before finishing the training went to easyjet.
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Hi,I did got a job quite quickly and the companies who were recruiting from the school at the time (2015/6) were easyjet (probably the biggest recruiter), aerlingus,volotea,thomas cook,air dolomiti, a cargo company,flybe,norwegian,vueling and air astana. Probably something else but i cant remember. No idea about the situation now. Most of the guys recruited before finishing the training went to easyjet.
