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Aer Lingus Future Pilot Programme 2018

Old 5th May 2018, 17:06
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Anyone have an idea on the number of cadets they're looking for this year?
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Old 5th May 2018, 19:15
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How will the selection Process be?

Will everything be done in one day or multiple days?

And are Dutch citizens also able to send their resume?
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Old 6th May 2018, 07:03
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Originally Posted by Safar1 View Post
How will the selection Process be?

Will everything be done in one day or multiple days?

And are Dutch citizens also able to send their resume?
Yes, as we have the right to live in Ireland (EU.) Check out the link in the first post for the other details.
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Old 7th May 2018, 15:33
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Originally Posted by antoniosilvestre View Post
Dear community,

Since in Europe there are a lot of fATPL pilots hoping to have a first good opportunity in the market, I wonder why are companies like Aer Lingus or Air France opening programmes when financing a TR would be less heavy on them.
Maybe is to bond pilots for more time to have a kind of security to possible market changes.
I really would like to hear your opinion on this.
Thanks!
Those pilots with fATPL can apply for 'direct entry' positions, I believe there is a seperate thread for that part of recruitment.
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Old 7th May 2018, 18:22
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Do you require a class one medical before the interview stage?
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Old 7th May 2018, 19:18
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Originally Posted by LuHa View Post
Should the Cover Letter be in the same file as the CV or do you recommend uploading two separate files?
Doubt it makes a difference. The files are reviewed by humans, they'll sort out the files their end once they see a cover letter and cv to however they want them (spearately or as one file).

Do you require a class one medical before the interview stage?
No, all requirements for interview are listed
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Old 7th May 2018, 21:22
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Fiddlesticks. I submitted my CV a week ago but didnít submit a cover letter as it didnít specifically ask for one. I should have really found this forum beforehand.

Do we think preference will be given to Irish nationals?
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Old 7th May 2018, 23:33
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Originally Posted by interested123 View Post
Fiddlesticks. I submitted my CV a week ago but didnít submit a cover letter as it didnít specifically ask for one. I should have really found this forum beforehand.

Do we think preference will be given to Irish nationals?
I donít believe cover letters are required for this application...at least that is what the case was in 2016.

I think itís safe to assume that there will be some bias towards Irish citizens, not least because they are most likely to want to build a lifetime career with Aer Lingus. That said, the strongest candidates will ultimately succeed - Irish or otherwise.
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Old 8th May 2018, 08:40
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Originally Posted by interested123 View Post
Fiddlesticks. I submitted my CV a week ago but didnít submit a cover letter as it didnít specifically ask for one. I should have really found this forum beforehand.

Do we think preference will be given to Irish nationals?
Having read the confirmation email and other posts, the way I understand the process is that the CV will initially only be screened to ensure you meet the entry requirements. If you were to go through to the final stages then your CV will be looked at in depth together with any cover letter, if applicable.
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Old 8th May 2018, 09:32
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Originally Posted by interested123 View Post
Fiddlesticks. I submitted my CV a week ago but didn’t submit a cover letter as it didn’t specifically ask for one. I should have really found this forum beforehand.

Do we think preference will be given to Irish nationals?
It was specified to only attach a CV so really don't think you will lose out by supplying what they're asking for. If anything showing that you're able to follow instructions might even be looked on more favourably.

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Old 8th May 2018, 12:27
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Guys just include a cover letter, it won't be thrown in the bin that's for sure, it shows initiative too. I attended a selection preparation day and they also encouraged including a cover letter even if not specifically asked, you're trying to sell yourself so seize every possible opportunity to do so.

And they are flexible, I emailed them after submitting to even update my CV and they allowed so, also offering the chance to update/edit my cover letter. So it's never too late, they are very flexible and understanding if last time is anything to go by.
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Old 8th May 2018, 20:22
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Originally Posted by interested123 View Post
Fiddlesticks. I submitted my CV a week ago but didnít submit a cover letter as it didnít specifically ask for one. I should have really found this forum beforehand.

Do we think preference will be given to Irish nationals?
Although in a completely different sector I have sat on both sides of an interview sift/panel. If they didnít ask for a cover letter donít send one. I have been instructed in a previous job to ditch applications that didnt follow basic application instructions. Harsh but when you have thousands of applicants why look at those who canít follow basics? I wouldnít worry. Those who sent a cover letter however......... 😂 Iím sure it wonít matter either way.
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Old 8th May 2018, 22:09
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Originally Posted by skoot View Post
<div style="text-align:left;"><br /><br />Although in a completely different sector I have sat on both sides of an interview sift/panel. If they didn’t ask for a cover letter don’t send one. I have been instructed in a previous job to ditch applications that didnt follow basic application instructions. Harsh but when you have thousands of applicants why look at those who can’t follow basics? I wouldn’t worry. Those who sent a cover letter however......... �� I’m sure it won’t matter either way.</div>
There is a proven track record of Aer Lingus looking at cover letters with many reports of them being referred to in interviews, now without wishing to sound rude, but whatever your previous company said isn't relevant because Aer Lingus clearly aren't one of those companies. Cover letters are processed and read by them. That's not to say not including one harms you, but the difference between applicants comes down to almost futile things at the final stage, you need every tiny bit of help you can get.
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Old 8th May 2018, 23:25
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Hi everyone

I've been thinking whether to apply or not for days and I've finally decided to ask for your advice.

Basically, I am currently enrolled at university (in my second year of study - out of four). I would like to apply to the Aer Lingus programme as it is an exceptional opportunity for an aspiring pilot as I am. However, I'm not entirely sure about what a recruiter might think when seeing I'm actually still enrolled at university.

Since it's obviously not possible to keep studying at uni while undergoing a professional pilot training, a possible question from any recruiter might be "what will you do if you are successful throughout the selection process?". The answer would be obvious but saying I would drop out of university without any hesitation might equally be disqualifying as I might sound like someone who is not determined to succeed and easily gives up.

What do you genuinely think? Should I apply or should I wait until I'm done with university?

Many thanks for any advice you might have
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Old 9th May 2018, 05:00
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Originally Posted by momo95 View Post
There is a proven track record of Aer Lingus looking at cover letters with many reports of them being referred to in interviews, now without wishing to sound rude, but whatever your previous company said isn't relevant because Aer Lingus clearly aren't one of those companies. Cover letters are processed and read by them. That's not to say not including one harms you, but the difference between applicants comes down to almost futile things at the final stage, you need every tiny bit of help you can get.
Fair enough. not going to argue with any of that. I was simply alleviating someoneís worry for not sending one. Every organisation does things differently. Iíve interviewed people for mostly engineering roles in several companies and they were all different. Take your own initiative and do what you think best.
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Old 9th May 2018, 09:24
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Has anybody had any further communication past the application stage? Ie online tests etc? I was assuming there would be no update until after the deadline passes.
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Old 9th May 2018, 11:02
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Hi guys,

I am thinking about applying for this programme. I am currently in a school finishing my PPL, and I am in a program routed to obtain my CPL. The problem is that it is very difficult to progress in this school (a long story, which i'm not gonna tell here). My motivations are just to study, work, fly and fly again. I am only focused on progressing and trying to be a good pilot; and maybe this program is a good opportunity for me, as I am completely stuck in my current school waiting everyday for flights, for the aircrafts to be fixed, and for bureaucracy to be made...
As I try to progress as fast as possible, I might be finishing the theory of the ATPL before beginning the program with Aer Lingus, would you still apply in my case?

Thank you very much for your answers, and good luck to all with your apply!!
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Old 9th May 2018, 11:53
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Does anybody know how many times I'd have to come to dublin?
Or is it just one stage?
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Old 9th May 2018, 12:23
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Sara......

One scenario

- Drop out if successfully employed by AL. When asked at the interview state that this is all you have ever wanted to do and it would be foolhardy to wait for a future programme to pop up given the inherent uncertainty that exists within the industry
- Also AL invites applications from employees to study during their careers and will pay towards this. Generally its the ambitous types wanting to undertake MBAs and suchlike and jump across into management. Therefore there is a slim chance that you could complete a higher level qualification after qualifying as a pilot.

Now if it was me I would do the degree (assuming its something relevant) as it demonstrates you completed something and if you don't get an airline job then you will have a career to fall back on. Plus you might lose your medical one day and be out of a job altogether.
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Old 9th May 2018, 18:38
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Originally Posted by sara98 View Post
Hi everyone

I've been thinking whether to apply or not for days and I've finally decided to ask for your advice.

Basically, I am currently enrolled at university (in my second year of study - out of four). I would like to apply to the Aer Lingus programme as it is an exceptional opportunity for an aspiring pilot as I am. However, I'm not entirely sure about what a recruiter might think when seeing I'm actually still enrolled at university.

Since it's obviously not possible to keep studying at uni while undergoing a professional pilot training, a possible question from any recruiter might be "what will you do if you are successful throughout the selection process?". The answer would be obvious but saying I would drop out of university without any hesitation might equally be disqualifying as I might sound like someone who is not determined to succeed and easily gives up.

What do you genuinely think? Should I apply or should I wait until I'm done with university?

Many thanks for any advice you might have
I am 33; if I was giving advice to my younger self I would strongly advise finishing the degree. There will be other opportunities in the future and your degree will give you some security in your chosen profession if flying doesnít go as planned. I am applying later in life and it may not work out for me but I have security and could get another role in my profession if this doesnít happen.

Im not suggesting you wait as long as me but assuming you enjoy your degree and would consider a job in that area interesting there is no harm in having some other experience on your CV.

That being said i am not sure my younger self would take my current advice! Only you know what you really want to do. Consider the cost and effort you have made so far and if another few years is that long to wait. Even when you finish uni you still have a hell of a long time to be a career pilot.
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