Legality of Amy Johnson Initiative - Equality Act 2010
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I'm getting fed up to the bone of all this liberal sexism trash talk.
Who gives a rat's posterior if employment is aimed at a certain sex?
If all of you liberal men are so offended by it, why not become this new thing "gender fluid" and apply for the scheme?
Who gives a rat's posterior if employment is aimed at a certain sex?
If all of you liberal men are so offended by it, why not become this new thing "gender fluid" and apply for the scheme?
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Originally posted by PA28161
Has it not occurred to anyone that there are so few female pilots in commercial aviation because it's a profession many girls/women just don't want to enter.
Has it not occurred to anyone that there are so few female pilots in commercial aviation because it's a profession many girls/women just don't want to enter.
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But proportionately more men are interested than women - otherwise there would be a greater balance. There are no other barriers these days, and indeed as this thread demonstrates, a greater incentive for females. There are of course also occupations where you will find a greater proportion of females to men...
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Originally Posted by Daysleeper
That's not an answer if anything it's a question.
Why are more women not interested and what is being done to address that.
Why are more women not interested and what is being done to address that.
Yes yes we're in a world which is fast changing and society now teaches it is ok to break from those historical norms ... but we cannot actively force women into the game if the majority of them have no desire for it. We naturally tend towards doing what we want to ... girls that want to apply are entirely free to do so and no one has stopped them in the past, this programme is not needed or required.
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Originally Posted by Daysleeper
That's not an answer if anything it's a question.
Why are more women not interested and what is being done to address that.
Why are more women not interested and what is being done to address that.
Women can make their own life decisions, thank you very much. So to the people who claim "oh but they need to be encouraged / have a role model / extra (financial) assistance / motivational speeches" to consider a flying career; well, you are actually being incredibly patronising and seriously underestimate the ability of women to think for themselves, a point which has been mentioned before on this thread.
Please - no more threads on the whole pilot gender
- this discussion has been going round in circles for years. There is nothing to debate. Men and women are just different, with different strengths and weaknesses and different interests and ambitions and this is something to embrace. . . and if you do care so much about the interests of women, then let us do what we want with our lives, whether that's to be a stay-at-home mother, or commercial pilot for that matter.Live and let live.
From an 18yr old gal who flew solo for the first time recently (still can't wipe the grin off my face! , all my flying is funded by having worked as a cleaner since I left secondary school (smirk at your screens as much as you like), all motivation not stemming from trying to "prove a (feminist) point" but from the sheer passion for flying and genuine love for aviation, as should be the case for all of us, right?
Last edited by JumboJet1999; 2nd Nov 2017 at 00:51.
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Agree 100%. But just have to point out this part, ( "So to the people who claim "oh but they need to be encouraged / have a role model / extra (financial) assistance / motivational speeches" to consider a flying career; well, you are actually being incredibly patronising and seriously underestimate the ability of women to think for themselves, a point which has been mentioned before on this thread. " )
The "people" who 99% of the times go on about this are feminists...plenty of youtube material of them being patronising, nothing new.
The "people" who 99% of the times go on about this are feminists...plenty of youtube material of them being patronising, nothing new.
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I see the problem some are addressing here, but still:
If this (small) scheme means that selection does no longer favor the best, then are we assuming that virtually all air forces in the world did not select the best for decades? Who will admit he got in because there was a girl who wasn´t allowed to apply? See, all of a sudden it all sounds constructed and what-if-ish.
It´s a few extra slots for women. The political context of this is always worth a discussion, but I´m not sure if you can have it without acknowledging a whole lot of aspects that won´t support your case here.
If this (small) scheme means that selection does no longer favor the best, then are we assuming that virtually all air forces in the world did not select the best for decades? Who will admit he got in because there was a girl who wasn´t allowed to apply? See, all of a sudden it all sounds constructed and what-if-ish.
It´s a few extra slots for women. The political context of this is always worth a discussion, but I´m not sure if you can have it without acknowledging a whole lot of aspects that won´t support your case here.
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There was never a shortage of applicants to air forces as far as I can see, rather they have always been heavily oversubscribed, being limited to men for a few decades doesn't mean the quality of those selected suffered.
