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Old 6th Aug 2017, 13:43
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Hi Fox

I did contact them for the same thing (I'm in the same situation with being offered MPL route 1) and pretty much was told if you haven't been offered the funding at the time, you won't get it. (Then again, I did speak to them many weeks after the offer as I has been trying to locate some unsecured loans from banks)

There was some confusion with both CTC and EasyJet saying the other party was responsible for deciding who gets the funding with the last explanation given to me being that it is mainly easyJet's (with some slight input from CTC) so I would say that given they have seen your file, they would have offered to help if they wanted to.

If you still want to talk to them, I would search for the general recruitment number (I would provide it but I seem to have lost it) and ask to speak to somebody responsible for the Generation EasyJet pilot recruitment. Maybe even ask for whoever the airline rep was at your interview stage.

Good Luck!
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 14:50
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Interesting news that CTC/L3 are saying loan underwriting is now not possible? Their website still states that it's an option for "particularly outstanding candidates" but it's always been a pretty vague and unlikely option IMO.

Did they say under what circumstances it might be available, if any?
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 14:50
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Originally Posted by fox231 View Post
Hey guys, been offered a place on the MPL (route 1) and would like to contact easyJet in order to put a case forward for underwriting. I've been told that this is not possible by CTC but would like to give it a crack regardless. Anyone had any experience with the way that easyJet runs this scheme/who is responsible for it? Not really sure of the best person to try and reach out to.
Not sure I'd bother if you've already been told it won't happen, they wouldn't say no without being told no by easyjet themselves
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 19:12
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I was told by a guy on here who got offered this last year. He told me that when he told easyJet he couldn't accept the offer because he couldn't finance the course they offered to underwrite the loan for him.
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 21:38
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I am currently waiting on my route allocation however I asked the question during my interview with a recruiter from easyJet and she said that they would not be underwriting any loans going forward.

It would be interesting to hear if there are any other responses from easyJet. Good luck guys.
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 21:55
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Originally Posted by FlyVeryHigh- View Post
I was told by a guy on here who got offered this last year. He told me that when he told easyJet he couldn't accept the offer because he couldn't finance the course they offered to underwrite the loan for him.
A lot changes in a year. Congratulations to him, but he is certainly in the very small minority.
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 22:23
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Originally Posted by momo95 View Post
Not sure I'd bother if you've already been told it won't happen, they wouldn't say no without being told no by easyjet themselves
Well ya'know there's no harm in trying, right? It's taken a lot to get this far so 'not bothering' seems a bit of a strange attitude.
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 22:25
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Originally Posted by mboqseif View Post
Hi Fox

I did contact them for the same thing (I'm in the same situation with being offered MPL route 1) and pretty much was told if you haven't been offered the funding at the time, you won't get it. (Then again, I did speak to them many weeks after the offer as I has been trying to locate some unsecured loans from banks)

There was some confusion with both CTC and EasyJet saying the other party was responsible for deciding who gets the funding with the last explanation given to me being that it is mainly easyJet's (with some slight input from CTC) so I would say that given they have seen your file, they would have offered to help if they wanted to.

If you still want to talk to them, I would search for the general recruitment number (I would provide it but I seem to have lost it) and ask to speak to somebody responsible for the Generation EasyJet pilot recruitment. Maybe even ask for whoever the airline rep was at your interview stage.

Good Luck!
Appreciate the detailed information advice, thanks!
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 22:27
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Originally Posted by ManUtd1999 View Post
Interesting news that CTC/L3 are saying loan underwriting is now not possible? Their website still states that it's an option for "particularly outstanding candidates" but it's always been a pretty vague and unlikely option IMO.

Did they say under what circumstances it might be available, if any?
They essentially say that you can't ask for it, you have to be chosen. In my head I feel like your financial situation should come into that decision a bit but perhaps that's the wrong mindset. I would hazard a guess that they don't need to underwrite any as lots of candidates are able to pay for their own training.
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 01:36
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IMO I think offering to underwrite loans for candidates was something half heartedly put on the webpage because they announced they would underwrite loans for female applicants through the Amy Johnson initiative.

I would keep trying too... if someone told me I couldn't ask for it, I probably still would if I had no other options. Whats the worst that can happen?

Good luck!
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 09:11
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Originally Posted by fox231 View Post
Hey guys, been offered a place on the MPL (route 1) and would like to contact easyJet in order to put a case forward for underwriting. I've been told that this is not possible by CTC but would like to give it a crack regardless. Anyone had any experience with the way that easyJet runs this scheme/who is responsible for it? Not really sure of the best person to try and reach out to.
Hey Fox, as I am still waiting for my route allocation, may I ask you when you sat stage 3 at Dibden and when you heard back ?
Thanks a lot !
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 12:51
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Seems a bit vague regarding underwriting..false hope???
Question:
No doubt all candidates intend to commit to EasyJet post training but what happens your licence if they let you go after the first season (as happen some pilot I know) are you locked into MPL limbo as you need to complete 1500hrs to be fully fledged?

Please forgive my lack of knowledge on the detailed requirements, I know each program is approved on merit by local aviation authority,
Anybody know?
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 13:24
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Originally Posted by mask14 View Post
Seems a bit vague regarding underwriting..false hope???
Question:
No doubt all candidates intend to commit to EasyJet post training but what happens your licence if they let you go after the first season (as happen some pilot I know) are you locked into MPL limbo as you need to complete 1500hrs to be fully fledged?

Please forgive my lack of knowledge on the detailed requirements, I know each program is approved on merit by local aviation authority,
Anybody know?
It's somewhat uncertain. One airline did indeed drop their cadets after finishing their MPL, before joining the airline in question. Fortunately, it was a small number of cadets with a widely used aircraft type rating and they were able to transfer them to another airline.

However, if there was a market downturn and no one needed new cadets, or the type rating was for an aircraft not widely used then I don't think the prospects would be good.

That being said, EasyJet is in a very strong position and the chances of that happening are highly unlikely (not impossible). It is unlikely enough for most people (and myself) to want to bet on anyway.
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 14:50
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Originally Posted by lapilot View Post
Hey Fox, as I am still waiting for my route allocation, may I ask you when you sat stage 3 at Dibden and when you heard back ?
Thanks a lot !
Hey there, sat my stage 3 in the first week of July. Good luck!
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 14:52
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Originally Posted by mask14 View Post
Seems a bit vague regarding underwriting..false hope???
Question:
No doubt all candidates intend to commit to EasyJet post training but what happens your licence if they let you go after the first season (as happen some pilot I know) are you locked into MPL limbo as you need to complete 1500hrs to be fully fledged?

Please forgive my lack of knowledge on the detailed requirements, I know each program is approved on merit by local aviation authority,
Anybody know?
How come this guy was let go?
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 18:41
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Just been told I have passed my stage 3, now waiting for easyJet's decision. I have 2 questions for anyone will to share their knowhow:

Firstly does this mean that if I don't get selected by easyJet that I will be offered whitetail?

Secondly how long have others waited to hear about easyJet's decision?

Thanks
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 20:32
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I, and most of the others heard within 3 weeks after our stage 3 at Dibden. A few haven't heard yet, but it's still only been 5 weeks, and CTC/L3 say it could possibly take 8... on our day, people received a mixture of route 1, 2 and 3...

Generally, to be put forward for easyJet, you will receive at least route 3... however, the e-mail states you have met L3's criteria, and not necessarily easyJet's, and I think last year someone on here mentioned being offered whitetail, and not route 1,2 or 3... but it seems only a minority, but to answer your question, to be told you've met L3's standards, that is essentially saying that if you don't get an easyJet route, you have a whitetail offer
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 06:52
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Originally Posted by fox231 View Post
Hey there, sat my stage 3 in the first week of July. Good luck!
So same week as me, frustrating to still be waiting
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 09:07
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Originally Posted by ec_2017 View Post
I, and most of the others heard within 3 weeks after our stage 3 at Dibden. A few haven't heard yet, but it's still only been 5 weeks, and CTC/L3 say it could possibly take 8... on our day, people received a mixture of route 1, 2 and 3...

Generally, to be put forward for easyJet, you will receive at least route 3... however, the e-mail states you have met L3's criteria, and not necessarily easyJet's, and I think last year someone on here mentioned being offered whitetail, and not route 1,2 or 3... but it seems only a minority, but to answer your question, to be told you've met L3's standards, that is essentially saying that if you don't get an easyJet route, you have a whitetail offer
If you don't mind me asking, when was your stage 3?
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 09:36
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No one gets "let go" from eJ. Once you're on the line, MPL or fATPL, then you have an interview for your permanent contract after 12-15 months. Thereafter you are a on a permanent contract and will not "let go" unless dismissed for an number of reasons.

I have heard of guys failing the initial flexi-to-perm interview, but they all subsequently passed at the second attempt. Remember during the flexi year you can be dismissed with no notice for any disciplinary reasons, so any one who claims to be have been "let go" will probably be covering something. As with any job though, keep your head down and don't try not to draw attention to yourself!

I also know of one MPL chap who failed his initial line training so he was never released onto the line- this would be classed as a training failure.
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