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PAT (Pilot Aptitude Test) or Skytest?

Old 18th Mar 2017, 16:52
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Hi guys,

What is better to prepar the airline assessments?

Anyone have passed any assessment with PAT?

PAT https://pilotaptitudetest.com/

I'm waiting your reviews...
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Old 19th Mar 2017, 10:34
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Hi here,

I am preparing for a DLR test with Eurowings. I never had the chance to attend any but it looks like it is good for Eurowings (skytest).

In your case in probably depend the airline etc.

Good luck anyway!
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Old 19th Mar 2017, 15:23
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For me PAT is not good at all. Has a lot of errors at maths..
I was trying for 10 minutes to figure out what my mistake was until I realized that it calculates 5x8=45 and stuff like that.

Thats my personal opinion of course.

I haven't tried Skytest. Latestpilotjobs is the best for me.
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Old 19th Mar 2017, 16:48
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Thank you guys for your soon reply.

AntonioGr have you passed any assessment with latestpilotjobs? I've never tried with it.

I'm also looking for a good and not too long questionbank for practicing the basic ATPL knowlegde where the most airlines put in their assessments. Any suggestions?

I have been looking for on internet and I saw:

1. E-ATPL: E-ATPL - Multiple Choice Question Database - (ATPL CPL IR AIRCRAFT HELICOPTER)
2. BGS: Home - BGS Online
3. Aviationexam: https://www.aviationexam.com/?gclid=...hJcaAv788P8HAQ

What do you recommend? All three have a lot of question around 11000 and in my opinion they are too long just for an airline assessment.
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Old 19th Mar 2017, 19:50
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It depends on the airline you are preparing for... may I ask what assessment you are going to attend?
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Old 20th Mar 2017, 00:35
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I wholeheartedly recommend Latestpilotjobs to everyone, especially for those attending the FTE and OAA assessments.
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Old 20th Mar 2017, 11:33
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1 point here for PAT (Pilot Aptitude Test) and SkyTest!

Has a lot of errors at maths..
I was trying for 10 minutes to figure out what my mistake was until I realized that it calculates 5x8=45 and stuff like that.
@AntonioGR: I found the same and emailed them. Turns out that the approximations they use are actually representative of what you'll find in a pilot aptitude test. i.e. If you need to calculate a complex worded question that, in some part, includes 5 x 8, the end result may not be 40 but rather 42.1 etc. Apparently, and I can attest to this, this tends to be the case with multiple choice aptitude tests, to catch you off-guard.

LPJ is alright for a brief overview for what's to come which is great if you're full of bundles of confidence, but I found that the 24 maths questions that they provide aren't up to scratch because there are so few of them. I don't think revising with just 24 questions is feasible.

The basic aptitude tests that they provide are a bunch of images moving around on a computer screen and don't seem to do much except infringe copyright.

My advice:

Be wary of an over-reliance of these 'aptitude tests' that try to mimic the real thing - you should instead try to improve the skills they're looking for, rather than trying to memorise an aptitude test as it will not serve you any benefit in the long run.


The tips that are provided for interview practice can all be found in Google Search - save your money and buy a book like Mental Math for Pilots to improve your mental arithmetic skills.

That 'Interview Gouge' that is updated 'regularly' is about as useful as a chocolate teapot too, with a bunch of messages from wannabe pilots shooting the breeze - I'd recommend taking that with a huge pinch of salt.

Pilot Aptitude Test and SkyTest are in a different league. Both of them have huge question databases for the relevant content with hundreds of questions, and have plenty of aptitude tests to practice with (around 15-20 each I think?).

Pilot Aptitude Test, at the very least, has the Knowledgebase Articles, which are free and would be my first port of call: Knowledgebase | PilotAptitudeTest.com ? The No.1 Online Preparation Software

They also both provide feedback in a way that LPJ doesn't - and explain the quickest way to answer the questions and explain how.

TL;DR:

Passed numerous aptitude tests and in my experience, Pilot Aptitude Test.com was much more useful than LPJ but be wary of an over-reliance on these types of software.

You're all very welcome to shoot me a private message should you have any questions on aptitude tests - my head is saturated with them and I'd be happy to pass that information on!
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 16:47
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There is also the AirlinePrep App which can be downloaded directly from their website. This app does not focus on aptitude but more the competency based interview, group exercises, numerical, verbal & ATPL reasoning as well as providing some very comprehensive feedback briefs.
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Old 25th Mar 2017, 17:12
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JButler, Which is better and more complete to pass an assessment nowadays? Do you think AirlinePrep App is better than PAT or LPJ?
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 21:53
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I prepared my assessment for Ryanair with latestpilotinterviews.com

The interview questions also refreshed my ATPL knowledge so I was quite confident when I had my technical interview and received a positive answer today!

I'm not familiar with PAT, so can't help you with that.

Good luck preparing your assessment!
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 06:59
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Rubynho,

I think it is important to recognise that not all airlines perform aptitude testing, so PAT of any kind is not necessarily the best product.

For example, Ryanair only do tech/HR interview + sim and for that the AirlinePrep App has a very good feedback brief on what to expect. Better than that though, AirlinePrep app offers tutorial and guidance written by airline recruiters on how to perform well.

A common mistake made by applicants is that they think they will perform well because they know what to expect at the assessment but they still fail. That's because they didn't know how to demonstrate their skill set or articulate their answers in the correct way. The AirlinePrep app addresses that problem with tutorials combined with feedback questions.

Just my viewpoint.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 07:43
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Would you recommend Pilotaptitudetest.com and airline prep as an addition of Skytest for DLR with Eurowings?
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 08:56
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Skytest is very good for the DLR test. AirlinePrep app is very good for the group exercise and HR/competency interview tutorials as well as a database of many ATPL feedback questions.

AirlinePrep also run practice interview and group exercise courses in UK and Bologna.
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Old 8th May 2019, 23:09
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For your information we have recently launched a section of pilotest.com dedicated to PILAPT, COMPASS and CUT-E tests. For the moment the content of the website is not translated in english but it will be done soon. it is still in beta but it is designed to help all wanabee pilots looking for a job!

www.pilotest.com/en/lonely_tests

Hope it helps!
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Old 6th Jun 2019, 08:31
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Originally Posted by pilotest View Post
For your information we have recently launched a section of pilotest.com dedicated to PILAPT, COMPASS and CUT-E tests. For the moment the content of the website is not translated in english but it will be done soon. it is still in beta but it is designed to help all wanabee pilots looking for a job!

www.pilotest.com/en/lonely_tests

Hope it helps!
This is actually pretty good and the tests are really similar to skytest and others. Using it to prepare without spending tons of cash.
Hope you add English soon and subdivide into categories (concentration, memorization, psychomotor, etc)
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