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Old 19th Dec 2016, 15:16
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Easy jet AQC + TR questions

HI
I got an email from eayjet saying I am welcome to attendt one of their screenings, to log in to my application and book my assessment date from that page. But when i try it says: Sorry, there are currently no events available for booking. Please can we encourage you to continue to monitor your application regularly for further updates on available events.
Why is that anyone?
Thay havet planed any dates yet?


And also, in the notes of the application i read that if I'm accepted i have to do a AQC before starting my typerating. What is this?
3 weeks long it says?
This have to be completed before staring TR

Do u know that if u end up making it all the way, are u guaranteed job?
I don't want to spend all this cash on AQC and d perhaps TR and end up with nothing

Thanks!
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Guy I know did this program as well. Waited 4,5 years for a job from that holding pool. He was not the only one who was in that holding pool for such a long time. Now he is flying for Aegean on the A320.
But in my opinion, extremely expensive program. Heavily overpriced and then you still have to pay 30-40K for Rating.
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Is this directly through easyJet or through the third party AQC+TR at CTC?
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Is anybody here doing the CTC route 4? I'd like to know a bit more about it!
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Ive applied, still waiting
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@gbotley its from the easy jet webpage but its the one when u already have the Atpl and ir me done elsewhere. ITs called AQC+TR and the interview was at easy jet ?
The email is from CTC so i suppose its the third party. its called route 4
Got any comments on that program ?
Thanks yet again
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Hello everyone,
got the same email yesterday but no website problems. I am waiting for an answer from recruitment just to confirm start and end times, because I am planning a one-day-trip from Italy.

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@Danieltorning,

I don't have any comments on the specifics of the program as I've not completed it and it's brand new. However, as a current cadet at CTC we all received emails about this program prior to its' launch. In essence the team told us that easyJet want that many pilots that CTC can't even fill all of the spaces with all of their Integrated ATPL or MPL cadets combined, of which there are many! With that in mind they've opened up 'Route 4'.

As I understand it, you will undertake CTC selection and those that pass will be offered a place. I'm not sure, however, if there is any easyJet presence at the interview stages or not as that was never confirmed. Given CTC's history with the airline being quite strong, easyJet's presence may not even be necessary who knows!

In any case I believe that the successful candidates will drop into the CTC system where Integrated cadets would after returning from Arizona / New Zealand respectively. You would have your CPL and ratings and would complete the appropriate Airline Qualification Course before then moving on to the type rating.

If you want an insight in to the selection at CTC, if indeed it is that one you will undertake, then check out the website link in my bio and look at the CTC Selection Tips pages.

I hope this helps you.
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Applied 10 days ago and was invited to the 1st assessment day. Keeping fingers crossed...
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anyone done the AQC
I feel like it would be a waste of money if u don't pass the AQC, read somewhere that som guys do. What to expect?
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Attented the assessment day on 12/19/2016
Passed the PILAPT failed the numeracy and invited to come back in February 2017.
They scheduled the dates up to 6 weeks in advance, they don't give much of information so far.
Seems they are completely overwhelmed.
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Website...again

Applied a little over a week ago and got the positive e-mail in the meantime but the website was showing no booking dates available at the time. How long did you have to want until you found a slot (for the guys who had the same problem)?
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I had one date available immediately after receiving the email.
Have a friend on the same situation, keep finger cross
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Originally Posted by Danieltorning
anyone done the AQC
I feel like it would be a waste of money if u don't pass the AQC, read somewhere that som guys do. What to expect?
Week of CRM ground school.

Week of MCC = 5 four hour sims. Automatics.

Week of JOC - 4 four hour sims. All manual flight except when you're briefing.

In 737-300/737-700 FBS.

While the course is built around developing your non-technical skills it's also very much a marker of your suitability for type rating. How quickly can you pick up SOP's, procedures, aircraft technical knowledge, smooth manual flight, CRM, multi-crew ops. You will be pushed very hard with failures and wx and complicated lesson plans, lots of procedural instrument flying. Strange how often ATC Radar became 'broken' in that sim as soon as you asked for vectors

I did it early this year so it may have changed somewhat but one of the manual sims was LGW-STN at 250kts via a very complicated SID straight onto a STAR, with an engine fire and thick FG chucked in for good measure = very damp forehead!


It's perfectly achievable but you won't find many trainees who've done the course who won't say it was bloody hard work.

The thing with CTC is the training is very good, but it's delivered very quickly. You need to be able to keep up with the steep learning curve.
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Thanks for those informations!

My main concern is: Do we get a job offer at the end of all this process if we succeed it ?
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Got an invitation email. But started to worry how to get finance for the training if I succeed??? It will be about 50.000 eur! Can I get a loan from UK bank? I am not a resident. Please advice if it's worth going to the interview!
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Originally Posted by Mlambin
Thanks for those informations!

My main concern is: Do we get a job offer at the end of all this process if we succeed it ?
Modular people have come in & done AQC, and gone to easyJet. My sim partner was one.

I think you have to pass selection with CTC to get into the modular hold pool, then do airline specific selection afterwards.

I think.

Call CTC and ask them directly. Get something in writing.
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Just to clarify some confusion, easyJet Route 4 is NOT the standard CTC AQC. On passing selection for Generation easyJet Route 4 the successful candidate will be provided a conditional offer of employment in the RHS of an Orange bus. So, if you pass selection to easyJet's standard and pass the course you're set to have a great career.

SOURCE: http://www.ctcaviation.com/courses/g...ramme-route-4/

Good luck to all applying.

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As far as I'm aware, BALPA got involved a while back and positive changes were made with all parties. I would post the link as a source as I did above to back up my statement, but BALPA have changed their website recently and the articles have all gone with it.

As it stands, I've heard from cadets further down the pipeline it's in the region of £35-£45 an hour on Flexi and at Gatwick base the monthly summer pay can equate to £2500+ although I can't remember if that was before tax deducted or after them. I'm swayed towards the latter though as average salary is in mid to late £30k of some of them and Pilot Jobs Network highlights new entrant base pay as £40k on direct entry so it's probably most accurate. Of course, this is me joining the dots so I could be wrong in some places.

EDIT: To add to the above, trainees whom easyJet have based where flexicrew is not allowed under employment law are on a standard contract from day 1 but it may/may not be permanent with some being a fixed term deal for your first year or two.

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gbotley you are pretty much spot on.

Flexi contract is £33/hour until 500 and then £43/hour (scheduled block hour)
take home during the summer doing 90hours/month was £2.3-3.5k average depending on hourly rate (based at LTN)

Salary works out to approx £33-35k for first year, then after a successful temp to perm interview, £41,320 SO contract. I've just finished 13 months on flexi so these are up to date figures.
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