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BAA Wizz Air Cadet Scheme 2016

Old 16th Mar 2017, 19:50
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Q1: Does anyone know what the roster is for the pilots at Wizz are?


Q2: Can anyone educate me what different types of contracts are available for pilots at Wizz?
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Old 16th Mar 2017, 22:50
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Roster: 14 on/7 off, or 6 on/4 off, soon to become 5/4 on bigger bases. Random if local to the base. Nice and stable in my experience.

Confair contract: employed by confair, not wizzair directly, slightly more money, but no social security paid. Local contract: social security paid, but amount of money and social security deductions change by country.
Taxes paid in switzerland in both cases. Local pilots can get only local contract.

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Old 17th Mar 2017, 08:01
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Thanks Dirk85

Officer Kite, just take in consideration you live in eastern europe, and (Dirk85 can may be able to confirm or not), but you become SFO from 1500h and you fly a lot so to compare a scheme like BAA with Wizz and CTC with EZY for example, take all in consideration. Price of the training (including interest of the bank), TR, evolution, lower salary obviously, taxes and cost of life in eastern countries. Honestly, the better investments you're looking for is maybe not where you think
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 10:27
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite View Post
I initially jumped at this programme when i saw the extrenely cheap price, and the job security etc, however upon deeper analysis i'm not sure this programme is as good on the long term ...

2000 a month is very low

Late 30s for a SFO? Counting the / difference, you get more than that in your first year at easyjet.

Depending on your financial situation, there may be better "investements" out there with a greater return which makes up for the higher course price i think.
Officer Kite, could you advice what other better 'investments' with greater return are there?
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 11:14
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QR, you pay about 110K for the training but get paid about 10 000$ net pm.
EZY, same price or a little more if you do the ATPL+TR, get paid something like 55K Pounds as a FO and 90K as a captain after a few years.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 12:58
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AA757,
First QR, you ll do your training, the waiting time before to start flying is currently 2 more years. Then you're stuck there cause your MPL isn't EASA and to convert in an ATPL EASA you have to pass again the exam. Then you're paid way way less (no more than 2500 dollars) as Second officer.

Easyjet is the same price but don't forget the price of leaving in UK, and get paid more 45k eur as an SO for the first years. And don't forget the case you're an ATPL instead of an MPL.

Do your calculation guys, but really it's not because the conditions appears better, they really are even if they might be.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 14:44
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You know guys,
If you really want to become a pilot, the best way for the moment (It's my opinion) is to work and spare a lot of money before, then go through assessment without taking any kind of credit. Just because you don't know what will happen in the future. Don't put your family in the
You ll then be able to accept low income during the beginning of your career and you will know how to save money and pay low tax (This will help you alot).


For sure there are a lot of more suitable investments, like R.E.I.T where you can get 10% a year on your 100K , or buy an appartment, rent it and put all your money in an offshore country like mauritius where you will have only 15% taxation. But be honest with you, what do you want NOW ?


What I want you to understand is that you can earn a lot of money in aviation, it's like all, you start at the bottom. Be ok with this, think well and invest in yourself.
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 11:49
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Man, the information I gave where the one given by people trying the program and written on this forum last year.
Now obviously the situation has maybe changed and I'm not discuss about it.
You don't really understand my point, the atpl conversion would make it for me an unsuitable investment not financially speaking obviously but more pratically. About the money you ll get more than a captain wizzair but once again that's a choice.
I don't disapprove this program at all, I applied myself. But the time ctc is dealing with your application you can wait really long time. No answer so far after having applied in July.
My philosophy is to apply everywhere you can but sometimes the best is not where you think it is.
I personally wouldn't go for QR because of the license but for those willing to do it it may be good. But it's not because the money is better than the financial investment is.
People are often blocked by irrational factors, opening it's mind and check what there is around is always the best option
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 11:53
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Ah and officer kite, stop accusing people please, you have informations, that's great, go on the QR forum, give the information you know, that will avoid us to keep inaccurate information and you to come accusing me to lie to scare people just because the situation changed
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 12:42
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Sorry to intervene, but, assuming that the QR scheme is better, is better for the 10-15 that got in. What about the rest of, let's say hypothetical, 200 guys that want to join a scheme were you actually have a job in the end? You have to consider the best option for you,not to get blocked on one ideea and that's the one and only one. You have to continuously look after and find other ways of getting in the right seat first. Even if it's not Qatar, Emirates, British or any other. In the end, you take what you can afford, and you think it's good for you.
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 13:07
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Well said Apitu...it looks like anyone can carefully choice the program one likes and fits better, and then later just applyto it and get the slot in the course ...BIG LOL there !!
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 14:03
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Apparently, my reply does not appear, but totally agree with you Apitu, the best is still to consider every options and only eliminate those which really not suit you
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 17:09
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Hi Folks,

Q1: I see on the thread some of the individuals had applied for Wizz Air Scheme, but then were offered the SmartLynx Scheme instead. Did you guys interview for Wizz and SmartLynx, or Just for Wizz Air?

Q2: Did anyone on this thread interview for both Wizz and SmartLynx?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 19:47
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Hi All,

New here but looking at this Wizz Air Cadet Scheme at BAA and a few questions on the selection process if anyone is able to help!

Which parts are taken online and which are taken at BAA in Lithuania. From what I gathered from the initial phone call it seemed the Profile XT test was done online and, if passed, the Compass tests, english test and interviews are conducted at BAA over 2 days. And then potentially airline interviews following later? Does this sound correct to those of you that have recently been through selection?

I would also be interested in the terms of employment with Wizz Air if anyone with a letter of engagement/already training has any further info that would be great! Seems pretty difficult to get information surrounding salaries/bonding to the airline from BAA themselves.

Good luck to all those applying!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 20:24
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Officer Kite is right, they will propose you to both airline Westend. There was just a Wizz Air interview so far and the Smartlynx cadet have been selected regarding their BAA assessment only. That will maybe change but nothing for sure.

Officer Kite, do you know who didn't pay the fee? I paid myself and didn't here of someone who didn't but it's possible. The fee are only for the BAA assessment. For the Airline interviews there isn't any fees. So if you paid it once it's valid for a year(BAA assessment is valid for a year) no matter how many airline are presented.

Hope that helps
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 22:54
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Yes OfficerKite, once you pass positively the BAA selection they will propose you to both in theory...in practice, from what I have experienced, I think they send your package and test results to the airline that best fits with your curriculum, previous experiences, competences (especially soft skills) and airline values, vision and core business.

Just to give you an idea, SmartLynx is fully embedded in the ACMI business, that differs quite far from a "routinary" airline like Wizz or EZY, (nothing wrong, just a different work regime with different needs in terms of crew mobility, seasonal bases, short term allocation as needed and alike), having said that also the would-be-cadet profile that best fit-for-purpose their desiderata plays an important role in the allocation of slots among the 2 schemes.

Hope this helps and good luck to all.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 07:01
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To complete lynx, that could also depend of the schedule. Wizz air just just came once in November and will probably come in may, meaning those who did the baa assessment in January were more in the smartlynx window
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 08:51
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so from the words i understood that there is no interview for smartlynx?
i am applying for smartlynx cadet program. I already made the PXT and english but still have compass test and the interview in Lithuania. I am planning to stay for a week there to do the airline interview in case of passing BAA assessment. However they kept saying that they can't make me do the interview in the same time and i will have to cone again. So is there any body who made the airline interview after the assessment directly or made it online for example ?
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 15:46
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When I applied a few months ago, the Smartlynx interview was done by the school directly. However it might have changed now, as the process wasn't really settled at the time. Smartlynx believe they don't have enough hindsight, yet, to judge ab-initio candidate in an interview, and they'd rather have it done by the school, and then pick the candidates themselves based on the report of BAA. Again, this might not be the case anymore.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 16:14
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they told you from the beginning that the process will be ended after BAA assessment and then they will inform you if the airline accepted you or not?. Or they told you that you will have an airline interview?
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