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Emirates Flight Training Academy
http://www.emiratesflighttrainingacademy.com/
Check this place out. I'm not a UAE national nor do I have any desire to fly in the Middle East. However, this place in genuinely impressive, if true! This is how flight training should be conducted in the 21st century. It is more akin to the flight training program ran by the RAF or USAF.
You need to be a UAE national to apply for to the Emirates Cadet Scheme. Some significant features:
-You get paid a Salary from the beginning of training.
-You flow seamlessly into a First Officer position in Emirates.
-You complete the CPL/MEIR element of training on a small jet.
-The campus looks like a modern University.
I have to congratulate Emirates on this. Any airline that is willing to invest this amount of money into its operation and future is clearly an airline geared to succeed. Airlines in Europe could really learn something from Emirates. Instead, European airlines are seriously short sighted and are obsessed with targets and KPIs to keep shareholders happy, whereas Emirates is obviously more focused on expansion into the world market and ensuring they have the flight crews necessary for that expansion.
I could say so much on this, what are your opinions?
Check this place out. I'm not a UAE national nor do I have any desire to fly in the Middle East. However, this place in genuinely impressive, if true! This is how flight training should be conducted in the 21st century. It is more akin to the flight training program ran by the RAF or USAF.
You need to be a UAE national to apply for to the Emirates Cadet Scheme. Some significant features:
-You get paid a Salary from the beginning of training.
-You flow seamlessly into a First Officer position in Emirates.
-You complete the CPL/MEIR element of training on a small jet.
-The campus looks like a modern University.
I have to congratulate Emirates on this. Any airline that is willing to invest this amount of money into its operation and future is clearly an airline geared to succeed. Airlines in Europe could really learn something from Emirates. Instead, European airlines are seriously short sighted and are obsessed with targets and KPIs to keep shareholders happy, whereas Emirates is obviously more focused on expansion into the world market and ensuring they have the flight crews necessary for that expansion.
I could say so much on this, what are your opinions?
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Emirates is a state-owned airline, so they don't have shareholders to report to. Western shareholder capitalism is often fairly short-sighted, with perhaps Germany, Austria and Switzerland being the exception.
When BOAC/BEA and later BA was state-owned, they used to have their set-up at Hamble, near Southampton. There is an excellent video of the training at Hamble on YouTube and the cadets there used to go through a training programme which wouldn't appear hugely different to what Emirates are offering their own folk.
These days, the British airlines effectively outsource pilot training to the "Big Three" whilst outsourcing the costs to the candidates (with one or two exceptions).
When BOAC/BEA and later BA was state-owned, they used to have their set-up at Hamble, near Southampton. There is an excellent video of the training at Hamble on YouTube and the cadets there used to go through a training programme which wouldn't appear hugely different to what Emirates are offering their own folk.
These days, the British airlines effectively outsource pilot training to the "Big Three" whilst outsourcing the costs to the candidates (with one or two exceptions).
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This is their flight training academy, you go there and graduate with a license .... like anywhere else, I don't get what's so special.
Unless you're thinking that going there will lead to employment or even better employment chances for fly Emirates (the airline) right after training, this is false contrary to what the name of the flight school would have you believe. You will have to apply to flyEmirates as a direct entry pilot and meet their min requirements (which you won't just after graduation).
The only way you can train and work for flyEmirates right after training is via their cadet program, which is only open to UAE citizens. This flight school just bares the name of the group who own both airline and flight school, the two are not connected however.
Unless you're thinking that going there will lead to employment or even better employment chances for fly Emirates (the airline) right after training, this is false contrary to what the name of the flight school would have you believe. You will have to apply to flyEmirates as a direct entry pilot and meet their min requirements (which you won't just after graduation).
The only way you can train and work for flyEmirates right after training is via their cadet program, which is only open to UAE citizens. This flight school just bares the name of the group who own both airline and flight school, the two are not connected however.
de minimus non curat lex
It will be interesting to see how the airports & airspace cope with their flying training.
When Prestwick was the base for BAe flying college 1987-1999, the first CFI (GVS) reckoned that the capacity of the Prestwick system with ATC fully manned was 23 ac. This accounted for daily deployments to West Freugh, and a base at Carlisle for the basic phase which consisted of 52 hours.
The 200 flying hours + simulator was completed after 14 months. (CAP509) Two months of what is now called MCC/JOC followed for the BA student.
Post the first Gulf War in 1990, BA reduced the training, and by 1993 has essentially stopped their sponsorship scheme.
The business unit moved to Jerez 1999/2000.
When Prestwick was the base for BAe flying college 1987-1999, the first CFI (GVS) reckoned that the capacity of the Prestwick system with ATC fully manned was 23 ac. This accounted for daily deployments to West Freugh, and a base at Carlisle for the basic phase which consisted of 52 hours.
The 200 flying hours + simulator was completed after 14 months. (CAP509) Two months of what is now called MCC/JOC followed for the BA student.
Post the first Gulf War in 1990, BA reduced the training, and by 1993 has essentially stopped their sponsorship scheme.
The business unit moved to Jerez 1999/2000.
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the two are not connected however
fly Emirates (the airline)
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You sure about that momo?
And I don't get what you're on about with me referring to "Fly emirates" as the airline itself and not the group as a whole. Did I say the entire group was fly emirates? I used it as a way to separate school from airline ...
Post about nothing that is.
My point anyway was that training there for your fatpl and expecting to walk into a job flying 777s cos you trained at a school with the same name is beyond naive.
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nodeh586 Here is the link to the Emirates website where you can apply to the cadet scheme, it states you should be a UAE national although not emphatically as it states under the requirements that you 'should' be a UAE national, strange word to use when you are stating facts in my opinion. https://tas-ekgcareers.taleo.net/car...0000VC&lang=en
Chris the Robot I believe this might be the video you're referring to, yes very interesting, here is the link if anyone else has 40 minutes to spare.
https://youtu.be/03ppjh8lg_8
As for EFTA, I took some info from the Emirates careers website and also the EFTA website, so sorry for not being so clear in the original post.
Whether or not EFTA and Emirates are one of one, I think its hard to deny that they do not go hand in hand. As some else has said, Emirates will need a LOT of pilots in the coming years and I think its great that they are doing something about it in the form of EFTA. Emirates is thinking outside of the box and are building a grand training program to service their ambitious expansion. If it truly can accommodate 600 students simultaneously what else could it be for other than to accommodate Emirates demand for pilots in the coming years? Its obviously not just some tin pot training academy. I would also presume that Emirates management has found that employing western pilots to fly their aircraft is not a sustainable solution as many pilots seem to get fed up with the sand pit lifestyle and return back to their home countries. In passing, if EFTA turns out to be what its website cracks it up to be, its reasonable to suggest that some European airlines could use it in the future for their cadetships which generates more business. All in all, this paragraph sums up my thinking behind my original post.
Ultimately, I contrast what Emirates is doing with Airline Management in Europe who don't seem to be able to see beyond the end of their collective noses. For European CEOs it seems to be more about crisis management, maintaining the status quo, most importantly, meeting the shareholders wishes in order to secure their bonuses. Once the bonus is through they are on their merry way to let some other budding CEO have a piece of the pie. There does not seem to be any commitment to the companies or the building of strong companies with a long term strategy. As for recruitment and staff retention, thats a problem for the next CEO, in the meantime they just hope that people pay the ever increasing costs of pilot training and accept ever decreasing terms and conditions.... a trend which will not last regardless of what the sceptics say. The crew shortage at some european LCCs this summer will sink in hard soon!
Anyhow, as someone else said, western companies may just not be able to compete with state owned Arab companies ran by an autocratic management structure.
I most certainly am not an advocate of communism, but as the Chinese premier said recently, there are some difficulties with western democracy!
Rant over!
momo95, check out the CTC scheme with VS, ab initio to A330!
Chris the Robot I believe this might be the video you're referring to, yes very interesting, here is the link if anyone else has 40 minutes to spare.
https://youtu.be/03ppjh8lg_8
As for EFTA, I took some info from the Emirates careers website and also the EFTA website, so sorry for not being so clear in the original post.
Whether or not EFTA and Emirates are one of one, I think its hard to deny that they do not go hand in hand. As some else has said, Emirates will need a LOT of pilots in the coming years and I think its great that they are doing something about it in the form of EFTA. Emirates is thinking outside of the box and are building a grand training program to service their ambitious expansion. If it truly can accommodate 600 students simultaneously what else could it be for other than to accommodate Emirates demand for pilots in the coming years? Its obviously not just some tin pot training academy. I would also presume that Emirates management has found that employing western pilots to fly their aircraft is not a sustainable solution as many pilots seem to get fed up with the sand pit lifestyle and return back to their home countries. In passing, if EFTA turns out to be what its website cracks it up to be, its reasonable to suggest that some European airlines could use it in the future for their cadetships which generates more business. All in all, this paragraph sums up my thinking behind my original post.
Ultimately, I contrast what Emirates is doing with Airline Management in Europe who don't seem to be able to see beyond the end of their collective noses. For European CEOs it seems to be more about crisis management, maintaining the status quo, most importantly, meeting the shareholders wishes in order to secure their bonuses. Once the bonus is through they are on their merry way to let some other budding CEO have a piece of the pie. There does not seem to be any commitment to the companies or the building of strong companies with a long term strategy. As for recruitment and staff retention, thats a problem for the next CEO, in the meantime they just hope that people pay the ever increasing costs of pilot training and accept ever decreasing terms and conditions.... a trend which will not last regardless of what the sceptics say. The crew shortage at some european LCCs this summer will sink in hard soon!
Anyhow, as someone else said, western companies may just not be able to compete with state owned Arab companies ran by an autocratic management structure.
I most certainly am not an advocate of communism, but as the Chinese premier said recently, there are some difficulties with western democracy!
Rant over!
momo95, check out the CTC scheme with VS, ab initio to A330!
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And I don't get what you're on about with me referring to "Fly emirates" as the airline itself and not the group as a whole.
My point anyway was that training there for your fatpl and expecting to walk into a job flying 777s cos you trained at a school with the same name is beyond naive
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Does anyone here know i am as an international student able to apply for the programme at emirates flight training academy ?
Because there's no detailed information about the course on their website, even the entry requirement and prices are unavailable
It's emirates airline owned academy right ? So after completing their programme we may offered a job or directly hired to emirates airline isn't ?
Because there's no detailed information about the course on their website, even the entry requirement and prices are unavailable
It's emirates airline owned academy right ? So after completing their programme we may offered a job or directly hired to emirates airline isn't ?
